FRAT WAR...THREAT TO PEACE

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

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DMCEBU - what if the so called hitmen of AKP and TGP are 10 year veterans of the fraternity ? It wouldnt change a thing because when they were screened 10 years ago , they were POLITE , PROMPT , HONEST , GOD FEARING etc and all the positive traits you can name of . Though I agree with you that screening is a factor to have a quality member , that would only boil down to my first sentence which would bottomlined it .

MATANG LAWIN - in respect to your dead cousin , can you give me a detailed scoop of the WHAT , WHEN , WHERE , WHY and HOw of it ? If the only reason is your cousin was only nodding to the AKP GF w/c caused his life is pure BS . I might believe that your cousin is a member of TGP thats why he died and that would be a good reason but " ni tagad " lang is mabaw kaayo .



By the way , we cant deny that AKP is so famous that some people wants to degrade it and some people (thank God) praise it . For the people who wants to degrade it , all they have in their pea brains are AKP will always be paired with negativity . Troubles , riots , vandalism's , etc .... it is AKP even though its not . A good example would be about 2 days ago in Mohon , Talisay the AKP banner was confiscated by the brgy Capt because someone reported that a group of drunk men was causing trouble in the stage of a disco event . The next day , they found out that the troublemakers were not AKP members but they already got the banner and asked for officers or alumni members to get it instead of the members because they looked like " YAGIT " . SO I ended up getting it for them with the apology from brgy capt . Dario taken with me . Isnt it ironic that the people he labeled YAGIT are the ones giving projects like LAPIS at PAPEL in Vicenta Manreal Elementary School in Pooc Talisay , free medical and dental mission in Biasong Talisay , Feed the hungry in Mohon Talisay ..... just because they look liked barumbado , they were stereotyped !!

[FK]

DMCEBU - what if the so called hitmen of AKP and TGP are 10 year veterans of the fraternity ? It wouldnt change a thing because when they were screened 10 years ago , they were POLITE , PROMPT , HONEST , GOD FEARING etc and all the positive traits you can name of . Though I agree with you that screening is a factor to have a quality member , that would only boil down to my first sentence which would bottomlined it .

bai pa apila ko ha... Then who could have influenced the polite ones to be barumbados? I hope it is not his brods.

MATANG LAWIN - in respect to your dead cousin , can you give me a detailed scoop of the WHAT , WHEN , WHERE , WHY and HOw of it ? If the only reason is your cousin was only nodding to the AKP GF w/c caused his life is pure BS . I might believe that your cousin is a member of TGP thats why he died and that would be a good reason but " ni tagad " lang is mabaw kaayo .

Yep... mura jud mabaw, pero daghan nahitabo patay tungod sa rason nga mabaw kaau, like kanang mag-inom... mo katawa ang pikas table, magtoo ang pikas nga sila ang gikataw-an. d ba mabaw kaau? but it's happening. And if i remember it right, kato nahitabo sa ayala pag last sinulog, nga gibu-buan ang manag-uyab og juice by a group of people, nagpinusilay... d ba mabaw sab kaau og rason?

Don't tell me that some of your members and other frat members are not capable of killing someone tungod sa gagmay nga butang. Pareho ana imo gi-example nga "basin Tau to siya mao gipatay", dili ba ni mabaw sab nga rason? Bisan walay sala basta Tau... kay patyon?

tsk... tsk... tsk...

[loki_fab]

peace to all.

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

bai pa apila ko ha... Then who could have influenced the polite ones to be barumbados? I hope it is not his brods.

Bai .... be a part of the healthy discussion kay it helps , promotes , educated some people who have no idea and so that they can get a clear view of the frat system . To answer the question , i'll a be hypocrite when I say influence did not came from brods though some factors would be from drugs and alcohol and a misguided path . But remember , every action there is a reaction .

Yep... mura jud mabaw, pero daghan nahitabo patay tungod sa rason nga mabaw kaau, like kanang mag-inom... mo katawa ang pikas table, magtoo ang pikas nga sila ang gikataw-an. d ba mabaw kaau? but it's happening. And if i remember it right, kato nahitabo sa ayala pag last sinulog, nga gibu-buan ang manag-uyab og juice by a group of people, nagpinusilay... d ba mabaw sab kaau og rason?

Yes it is happening but to a point of the example is very shady . Though andun na ako sa mababaw na reason but it happened in DUMAGUETE and not in CEBU ?? Because if it happened in Cebu , I know it did not happened for I know each and every move that happened in Cebu . Like I said , tambay ako ng barberohan kaya maraming info nasasagap .

Don't tell me that some of your members and other frat members are not capable of killing someone tungod sa gagmay nga butang. Pareho ana imo gi-example nga "basin Tau to siya mao gipatay", dili ba ni mabaw sab nga rason? Bisan walay sala basta Tau... kay patyon?

tsk... tsk... tsk...

Oh bai .... yes we are very capable of but to a point of only a reasonable cause . I never said basin TAU to siya . I said he is a member of TAU , that maybe caused his life by nodding . Being a TAU member and consider him a dead man walking is far fetched . Not to disrespect TGP 's here but AFAIK , they are the one who seeks AKP members . " Kutob sa makit-an " but it is true . If nobody noticed , 90% of TGP casualties are members whom are the labeled as " anay ng lipunan " . They are the hitmens , killers , snatchers , barumbados , bullies and etc and all the negative stuff you can name of . Time will come also that TGP casualties will go up to the ranks of members who finances , conspires , suports TGP hitmen , this is not a threat but something I am scared of also because everytime a TGP member dies , I as an AKP member will look bad also .

[Mang Teban]

To the points, Mr Springfield !

[Lyt.Slpr]

Oh bai .... yes we are very capable of but to a point of only a reasonable cause . I never said basin TAU to siya . I said he is a member of TAU , that maybe caused his life by nodding . Being a TAU member and consider him a dead man walking is far fetched . Not to disrespect TGP 's here but AFAIK , they are the one who seeks AKP members . " Kutob sa makit-an " but it is true . If nobody noticed , 90% of TGP casualties are members whom are the labeled as " anay ng lipunan " . They are the hitmens , killers , snatchers , barumbados , bullies and etc and all the negative stuff you can name of . Time will come also that TGP casualties will go up to the ranks of members who finances , conspires , suports TGP hitmen , this is not a threat but something I am scared of also because everytime a TGP member dies , I as an AKP member will look bad also .

bai, that would be a shame because most of us were labeled as financers bisan dili. it doesn't mean that we are well off than other members that automatically qualifies us to be financers. not one among our reasonable number of personal and even company vehicles was ever used as a get away or surveillance car of so called "hits".

if i will be victimized by another shooting incident again, we won't file a case anymore but have the "good guys" of the NBI, CIDG & MIG eliminate the perpetrators and will raise an attractive bounty on top of that, even a fellow "brod" cannot refuse. Skeptron CDC alumni can validate this. Naa pa gyud ng garas² ug awto. Plus if this problem will be elevated to the alumni, this will only get worse and worse cause nobody can guide anymore because everybody has been victimized and will be angry. Wala ng sina-santo. That will be total chaos and a bigger bloodshed.

This is not a threat but a undisputable fact. I am sure that I was not a target kay nihapit ra ko ato pero mao ra'y nakit-an. So kung mo continue sila ana dili na TGP ilang kontra...

again, go after personalities nga na'ay sala. sa 10 years nako nga triskelion wala pa ko makadapat ug AKP or even planned a hit among "hit men" despite the brains, resources & contacts kay kahibalo ko nga wala na'y padulngan kung dili balos² ra. ni come out kaha ko kung dili ni mao akong pagtuo?! btw, your group once intercepted our communication so you know who are for peace.

this so called FRAT WAR has no sense. I don't even consider this as a FRAT WAR but a GANG WAR because it is territorial and has no principle. and the ultimate victims are the families. let's just say your alleged creed exists, isn't it stupid for a human being belonging to a certain group wholeheartedly embraces that creed because of what he underwent during initiation or to boost the feeling of belongingness? we are human beings, we should be wise enough to discern right from wrong.

TGP has no anger towards AKP whatsoever. Not in our teners, by-laws, codes of conduct, motto or creed. You of all people know that.

[Señor Joze]

Basta ako ra jud ma sulti mga friends...of course friends jud ta tanan dinhi, mga isturya.net family, Is a well organized and well disciplined group or any fraternity for that matter is 2 thumbs up jud ko. Nindot kaayu na mga benefits and advantages to us, our society and our country. Kinsa may dili malipay ana na dili lang sila maka tabang with each other as brothers and sisters but also in our community as well. PERO once na kulang or dili na sila maka control sa ila mga members, wala na mga discipline, and disorganized na ang grupo...diha na ang naka bati ani fraternity. Diha na where they should fix it seriously.
We have to face it, wala jud ta mahimo on how to control each individuals feelings, character, family background or even temper when it comes to misunderstanding or arguments. What they need is a good leadership...a good leader and lost of them especially na ni daghan namo members.
I'll show you an example here..see this...
http://forums.istorya.net/viewtopic....r=asc&start=50
Those members sa fraternities, how can you explain this? Why are you having members with behaviors like this? Why is this happening even here in istorya.net. How can somebody be so easy or straightforward on threatening to somebody's life just because he can't take the fact that they can be wrong or they are not invincible as they thought?

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

bai, that would be a shame because most of us were labeled as financers bisan dili. it doesn't mean that we are well off than other members that automatically qualifies us to be financers. not one among our reasonable number of personal and even company vehicles was ever used as a get away or surveillance car of so called "hits".

Bai ..... even I being labeled as a financer is not dumb enough to actually admit that I am a financer . Though I am not saying you are but that phrase cam from yours .

if i will be victimized by another shooting incident again, we won't file a case anymore but have the "good guys" of the NBI, CIDG & MIG eliminate the perpetrators and will raise an attractive bounty on top of that, even a fellow "brod" cannot refuse. Skeptron CDC alumni can validate this. Naa pa gyud ng garas² ug awto. Plus if this problem will be elevated to the alumni, this will only get worse and worse cause nobody can guide anymore because everybody has been victimized and will be angry. Wala ng sina-santo. That will be total chaos and a bigger bloodshed.

Why rely on the law enforcement when a cheaper vigilante is available ? If you are talking about the traitor of BUNGOT whom got the bounty for w/c is by the way 200 K ?? If he indeed was a traitor , he at least got the money but he did not for he was TORTURED . How did I know this ?? Again ... sa suking barberohan . But bai be considerate that the negative actions you got maybe something that an action that has a reaction . If you are a member of TGP for about 10 years , I do know you for 12 years .

This is not a threat but a undisputable fact. I am sure that I was not a target kay nihapit ra ko ato pero mao ra'y nakit-an. So kung mo continue sila ana dili na TGP ilang kontra...

people tend to always say that AKP has many atrocities with other groups . Wala bai , only TGP and you know why .

again, go after personalities nga na'ay sala. sa 10 years nako nga triskelion wala pa ko makadapat ug AKP or even planned a hit among "hit men" despite the brains, resources & contacts kay kahibalo ko nga wala na'y padulngan kung dili balos² ra. ni come out kaha ko kung dili ni mao akong pagtuo?! btw, your group once intercepted our communication so you know who are for peace.

Sakto gyud ka mao walay padulngan thats why I said in an earlier post that didnt you noticed that most of ur casualties are they themselves hitmens or ang nakasala sa AKP ? Prime example would be Cal Ortiz and Bax Mendoza . Yes we did intercvepted your communication thats why we found out about the plan of Mr ROB ROY ARIENZA REYNA of OPRA Village to kill Atty Paul Oaminal and Richard Buscaino . What if we havent found about it , they are probably dead right now . By the way , you guys are also guilty of intercepting our communications so please dont bring this up .


@ SENOR JOSE - I will personally apologized to ur inconvenience because an AKP name is involved but I wont be buying the truth that he indeed is an AKP member . I can make a new account and used else name and harass everyone in here .

this so called FRAT WAR has no sense. I don't even consider this as a FRAT WAR but a GANG WAR because it is territorial and has no principle. and the ultimate victims are the families. let's just say your alleged creed exists, isn't it stupid for a human being belonging to a certain group wholeheartedly embraces that creed because of what he underwent during initiation or to boost the feeling of belongingness? we are human beings, we should be wise enough to discern right from wrong.

TGP has no anger towards AKP whatsoever. Not in our teners, by-laws, codes of conduct, motto or creed. You of all people know that.

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

bai, that would be a shame because most of us were labeled as financers bisan dili. it doesn't mean that we are well off than other members that automatically qualifies us to be financers. not one among our reasonable number of personal and even company vehicles was ever used as a get away or surveillance car of so called "hits".

Bai ..... even I being labeled as a financer is not dumb enough to actually admit that I am a financer . Though I am not saying you are but that phrase cam from yours .

if i will be victimized by another shooting incident again, we won't file a case anymore but have the "good guys" of the NBI, CIDG & MIG eliminate the perpetrators and will raise an attractive bounty on top of that, even a fellow "brod" cannot refuse. Skeptron CDC alumni can validate this. Naa pa gyud ng garas² ug awto. Plus if this problem will be elevated to the alumni, this will only get worse and worse cause nobody can guide anymore because everybody has been victimized and will be angry. Wala ng sina-santo. That will be total chaos and a bigger bloodshed.

Why rely on the law enforcement when a cheaper vigilante is available ? If you are talking about the traitor of BUNGOT whom got the bounty for w/c is by the way 200 K ?? If he indeed was a traitor , he at least got the money but he did not for he was TORTURED . How did I know this ?? Again ... sa suking barberohan . But bai be considerate that the negative actions you got maybe something that an action that has a reaction . If you are a member of TGP for about 10 years , I do know you for 12 years .

This is not a threat but a undisputable fact. I am sure that I was not a target kay nihapit ra ko ato pero mao ra'y nakit-an. So kung mo continue sila ana dili na TGP ilang kontra...

people tend to always say that AKP has many atrocities with other groups . Wala bai , only TGP and you know why .

again, go after personalities nga na'ay sala. sa 10 years nako nga triskelion wala pa ko makadapat ug AKP or even planned a hit among "hit men" despite the brains, resources & contacts kay kahibalo ko nga wala na'y padulngan kung dili balos² ra. ni come out kaha ko kung dili ni mao akong pagtuo?! btw, your group once intercepted our communication so you know who are for peace.

Sakto gyud ka mao walay padulngan thats why I said in an earlier post that didnt you noticed that most of ur casualties are they themselves hitmens or ang nakasala sa AKP ? Prime example would be Cal Ortiz and Bax Mendoza . Yes we did intercvepted your communication thats why we found out about the plan of Mr ROB ROY ARIENZA REYNA of OPRA Village to kill Atty Paul Oaminal and Richard Buscaino . What if we havent found about it , they are probably dead right now . By the way , you guys are also guilty of intercepting our communications so please dont bring this up .


@ SENOR JOSE - I will personally apologized to ur inconvenience because an AKP name is involved but I wont be buying the truth that he indeed is an AKP member . I can make a new account and used else name and harass everyone in here .

this so called FRAT WAR has no sense. I don't even consider this as a FRAT WAR but a GANG WAR because it is territorial and has no principle. and the ultimate victims are the families. let's just say your alleged creed exists, isn't it stupid for a human being belonging to a certain group wholeheartedly embraces that creed because of what he underwent during initiation or to boost the feeling of belongingness? we are human beings, we should be wise enough to discern right from wrong.

TGP has no anger towards AKP whatsoever. Not in our teners, by-laws, codes of conduct, motto or creed. You of all people know that.[/quote]

[Lyt.Slpr]

bai, that would be a shame because most of us were labeled as financers bisan dili. it doesn't mean that we are well off than other members that automatically qualifies us to be financers. not one among our reasonable number of personal and even company vehicles was ever used as a get away or surveillance car of so called "hits".

Bai ..... even I being labeled as a financer is not dumb enough to actually admit that I am a financer . Though I am not saying you are but that phrase cam from yours .

if i will be victimized by another shooting incident again, we won't file a case anymore but have the "good guys" of the NBI, CIDG & MIG eliminate the perpetrators and will raise an attractive bounty on top of that, even a fellow "brod" cannot refuse. Skeptron CDC alumni can validate this. Naa pa gyud ng garas² ug awto. Plus if this problem will be elevated to the alumni, this will only get worse and worse cause nobody can guide anymore because everybody has been victimized and will be angry. Wala ng sina-santo. That will be total chaos and a bigger bloodshed.

Why rely on the law enforcement when a cheaper vigilante is available ? If you are talking about the traitor of BUNGOT whom got the bounty for w/c is by the way 200 K ?? If he indeed was a traitor , he at least got the money but he did not for he was TORTURED . How did I know this ?? Again ... sa suking barberohan . But bai be considerate that the negative actions you got maybe something that an action that has a reaction . If you are a member of TGP for about 10 years , I do know you for 12 years .

This is not a threat but a undisputable fact. I am sure that I was not a target kay nihapit ra ko ato pero mao ra'y nakit-an. So kung mo continue sila ana dili na TGP ilang kontra...

people tend to always say that AKP has many atrocities with other groups . Wala bai , only TGP and you know why .

again, go after personalities nga na'ay sala. sa 10 years nako nga triskelion wala pa ko makadapat ug AKP or even planned a hit among "hit men" despite the brains, resources & contacts kay kahibalo ko nga wala na'y padulngan kung dili balos² ra. ni come out kaha ko kung dili ni mao akong pagtuo?! btw, your group once intercepted our communication so you know who are for peace.

Sakto gyud ka mao walay padulngan thats why I said in an earlier post that didnt you noticed that most of ur casualties are they themselves hitmens or ang nakasala sa AKP ? Prime example would be Cal Ortiz and Bax Mendoza . Yes we did intercvepted your communication thats why we found out about the plan of Mr ROB ROY ARIENZA REYNA of OPRA Village to kill Atty Paul Oaminal and Richard Buscaino . What if we havent found about it , they are probably dead right now . By the way , you guys are also guilty of intercepting our communications so please dont bring this up .


@ SENOR JOSE - I will personally apologized to ur inconvenience because an AKP name is involved but I wont be buying the truth that he indeed is an AKP member . I can make a new account and used else name and harass everyone in here .

this so called FRAT WAR has no sense. I don't even consider this as a FRAT WAR but a GANG WAR because it is territorial and has no principle. and the ultimate victims are the families. let's just say your alleged creed exists, isn't it stupid for a human being belonging to a certain group wholeheartedly embraces that creed because of what he underwent during initiation or to boost the feeling of belongingness? we are human beings, we should be wise enough to discern right from wrong.

TGP has no anger towards AKP whatsoever. Not in our teners, by-laws, codes of conduct, motto or creed. You of all people know that.

1] me being a financer did not come from me.

2] that's odd i did not even know about bungot's traitor or the progress of that case. i was speaking for myself. vigilantes and amateurs cannot effectively "hunt". the above mentioned agencies does a lot better job of eliminating people.

3] i was also not aware that we did intercept your communications.

4] regarding the "action to a reaction" thing is that the AKP's of CDC felt intimidated when we put up a chapter back. [because the old batches did not recruit anymore, the chapter died a natural death.] they were paranoid and started to have outsiders visit the campus because AKP was already dominant in numbers back then. but when the shooting incident happened, i was not in the campus or the vicinity. the gunman approached a brod and asked if he was a member of TGP. i passed by to get a xerox of my notes for a quick second, was inside my car. got out and let that brod inside the car. then he started shooting. bottomline is we were not targets but pure "paregla."

5] i was referring to myself again. if there will be another hit on me, dili na TGP ilang kontra. kadto ng mga for hire na agencies na akong gi-mention. kay kapoy na, labad sa ulo. pang bayran na lang para mahuman, tumbok pa gyud sa mga naay atrasao gyud. fair enough?