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  1. #41

    Quote Originally Posted by emow View Post
    Wow... a tyrant who is ignorant of economics. You want to play God? Lol. This is why we have leaders who are idiots. They all started with the same sentiments as this guy. Clearly, your thought process is operating at a primitive level. You will deciminate all productivity and drive away investors and impoverish the country. Somehow, you have very little regard of the individual citizens' welfare as you assume a divine socio technocrat's role, effectively making the whole country an inanimate object that bends at your every will. The Kims of North Korea have already practised what you are advocating. Millions are starving there.
    Hala. Why do you say I want to play a God? Boss, I don't know if u really know my detailed plan maybe na mis-interpret nimo. You said na ako idrive-away ang investors. Well yeah, as I mention there is a reason why I want to pull over their business if ever they didn't consider my options, if ever they will be pulled out; I will work hard in my ways na to call investors around the world. Dili nalang nako idetails cause taas nkaayo kn usahon2x nako. I'm working in the office it's hard give all my time just to reply this thread especially that you have quoted. Yeah boss, I want to play a game in the economic na ma call nako ang attention sa mga investors, I will not focus the Chinese investors anymore. I will not just limit to the Chinese investors. There are so many investors that are not aware about Philippines (if ever kn ako ang ma President) hehe. There are so many investors from Western Europe & Middle-east. And as I said and mention, na before I will do the things or implement it to call investors, ako sah ihan-ay ang mga regional areas cause I think dili pd niya ma appreciate kn taas ang crime, ang look sa urban areas , ang behavior & characters sa mga citizens na pataka lang ug labay sa basura etc; something that i need to change the way we live. Plus points kaayo na sa mga investors and makita nla na ang Manila, Cebu, Davao and the rest regional cities na ig-ana ang culture sa mga Filipinos. So it's good na ma dungog ta sa tourist and they help spread the words. And during my term, I want to push from entertainment and science & technology sa mga pinoy cause we have potentials, sayang d ma gamit. I want to invest of that part pra lang ma develop and magka produkto ta. Sa economic, I really love to challenge and play the game na mapa tawag nako ang investors, and naa nana nko ang ways to call them. Daghan man potentials ang mga pinoy and atung culture na pwde mka lead ug hatag na trabaho sa mga pinoy. We have natural resources, we have wonderful mountains, waterfalls, physical talents sa atung ctizens. Too many, okayonon lang. And also, everybody should work cause daghan kaayo things that needs a people to work sa akung projects & plans etc. Hehehe.

    Bos, I'm not a tyrant ignorant economic and I'm not the one you've think that as you have seen in N.K practiced. Why did you say that, naa diay ka specific ideas sa akng plans? I don't know boss, but u already judge me. I didn't just elaborate more cause I have limits to lurk in this thread. Not all times I can write for this thread & read replies and comments.

  2. #42
    @Istudyante-Ni-Pikoy: mag-devil's advocate lagi daw sya dri nga funny thread sir, maminaw na lng ta nya kay mas hanas na sya sa economics

  3. #43
    kung ako mapresidente , ipa salvage nako ang mga corrupt officials ... as last warning ..

    ipa kidnap una , torture if di jud salvage na ...

  4. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by femchien View Post
    pagamyan ang tax , tabangan tanang pobre ..
    sounds like utopia

  5. #45
    I'll declare martial law

  6. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by Istudyante-Ni-Pikoy View Post
    Hala. Why do you say I want to play a God? Boss, I don't know if u really know my detailed plan maybe na mis-interpret nimo. You said na ako idrive-away ang investors. Well yeah, as I mention there is a reason why I want to pull over their business if ever they didn't consider my options, if ever they will be pulled out; I will work hard in my ways na to call investors around the world. Dili nalang nako idetails cause taas nkaayo kn usahon2x nako. I'm working in the office it's hard give all my time just to reply this thread especially that you have quoted. Yeah boss, I want to play a game in the economic na ma call nako ang attention sa mga investors, I will not focus the Chinese investors anymore. I will not just limit to the Chinese investors. There are so many investors that are not aware about Philippines (if ever kn ako ang ma President) hehe. There are so many investors from Western Europe & Middle-east. And as I said and mention, na before I will do the things or implement it to call investors, ako sah ihan-ay ang mga regional areas cause I think dili pd niya ma appreciate kn taas ang crime, ang look sa urban areas , ang behavior & characters sa mga citizens na pataka lang ug labay sa basura etc; something that i need to change the way we live. Plus points kaayo na sa mga investors and makita nla na ang Manila, Cebu, Davao and the rest regional cities na ig-ana ang culture sa mga Filipinos. So it's good na ma dungog ta sa tourist and they help spread the words. And during my term, I want to push from entertainment and science & technology sa mga pinoy cause we have potentials, sayang d ma gamit. I want to invest of that part pra lang ma develop and magka produkto ta. Sa economic, I really love to challenge and play the game na mapa tawag nako ang investors, and naa nana nko ang ways to call them. Daghan man potentials ang mga pinoy and atung culture na pwde mka lead ug hatag na trabaho sa mga pinoy. We have natural resources, we have wonderful mountains, waterfalls, physical talents sa atung ctizens. Too many, okayonon lang. And also, everybody should work cause daghan kaayo things that needs a people to work sa akung projects & plans etc. Hehehe.

    Bos, I'm not a tyrant ignorant economic and I'm not the one you've think that as you have seen in N.K practiced. Why did you say that, naa diay ka specific ideas sa akng plans? I don't know boss, but u already judge me. I didn't just elaborate more cause I have limits to lurk in this thread. Not all times I can write for this thread & read replies and comments.
    Dodong.... you may not intend to be one pero the only way you can implement your suggestion is through tyranny, crafting laws that would undermine the lives of others to achieve your goal. The protectionist policy your advocating will destroy whatever economic gain we have achieved... remember, other countries are competing for investors. The question you must ask is, how can you make your country more attractive? A country that would allow businesses to keep more money of what it earns would basically trump all other factors (but each factor must be satisfied at particular levels). What you will be doing is making the country less attractive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by H.Wolowitz View Post
    @Istudyante-Ni-Pikoy: mag-devil's advocate lagi daw sya dri nga funny thread sir, maminaw na lng ta nya kay mas hanas na sya sa economics
    Basic economics should have been taught in schools like math and science.

  7. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by emow View Post
    Dodong.... you may not intend to be one pero the only way you can implement your suggestion is through tyranny, crafting laws that would undermine the lives of others to achieve your goal. The protectionist policy your advocating will destroy whatever economic gain we have achieved... remember, other countries are competing for investors. The question you must ask is, how can you make your country more attractive? A country that would allow businesses to keep more money of what it earns would basically trump all other factors (but each factor must be satisfied at particular levels). What you will be doing is making the country less attractive.

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    Basic economics should have been taught in schools like math and science.
    Ahmm Boss or dodong or mr nalang pra naay respect. You really play smart here huh. I don't know why do you think that and why do you say that. DO you really know what is my specific plan & things to do to achieve my goal? I don't know why you jump to conclusion. Pero anyway, as you have you said from the previous page, you want to play devils advocate of this thread. That means no need to argue you, you are just trolling looking for a debate. hehehe. You are entitled to do comments each person here cause you want to troll to this thread anyway. D nalang ko mo sukay nimo kay imong purpose sa thread is just to have fun.
    Ok so if I ask you. Kun ikaw ang pResidente? Hahaha....

    By the way you said
    Basic economics should have been taught in schools like math and science.
    Cge ka cgro ka cutting classes.

  8. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by Istudyante-Ni-Pikoy View Post
    Ahmm Boss or dodong or mr nalang pra naay respect. You really play smart here huh. I don't know why do you think that and why do you say that. DO you really know what is my specific plan & things to do to achieve my goal? I don't know why you jump to conclusion. Pero anyway, as you have you said from the previous page, you want to play devils advocate of this thread. That means no need to argue you, you are just trolling looking for a debate. hehehe. You are entitled to do comments each person here cause you want to troll to this thread anyway. D nalang ko mo sukay nimo kay imong purpose sa thread is just to have fun.
    Ok so if I ask you. Kun ikaw ang pResidente? Hahaha....

    By the way you said
    Cge ka cgro ka cutting classes.
    What you are proposing is nothing new, sir. To summarize your points:
    1. Force reconfiguration of demographics- ever wonder how israel - palestine conflicts began?
    2. 50-50 ownership policy - this has been Philippines bane as it limits investors willing to accept a 50% slash on their potential profit. Nothing new.
    3.GOCCs - you are suggesting more of the same. Government companies do not operate efficiently. Why? Because they dont operate on profit motive. Without profit, these companies will suck tax coffers just to maintain the salaries of unproductive employees. Goccs are useless entities, whose business could have been efficiently performed by competing private companies.
    4. Tax on the idle - not even the least learned economist would have ever conceptualized or consider such policy. Its just downright stupid. Just think it through.
    5. Draconian employment policy and foreign worker bias. Well, it's this simple. Businesses will hire the people it needs. Whether foreign or local, it is the discretion of the business because ultimately they bare the consequences. Wages are naturally pegged at supply and demand forces, not living cost. To mistake this concept, is to produce artificial unemployment even if the intent is to increase employment. Filipino workers will suffer as you enjoy a moral satisfaction that you thought you have done good. Typical of economic ignorance.
    6. Heres the kicker. You will discontinue businesses who cant follow your whims. Good job. First, you make the country unattractive for new investors. Then you are threatening to close the ones operating inspite of your dictations. And you will look for new investors after? Hmmmm....look at the first effect.

    Im not engaging a debate with you just for the sake of it. Im trying to show you how the same you are to the people we usually blame for the ills in the country. It is highly unlikely you can become president. But believe me, your sentiments are all too common for the majority of our people, morally superior, emotionally charged, but shallow, ignorant, and incapable of thinking beyond stage 1. I applaud you for trying to think things through with your suggestions. You just need to have foundations in economics first. You'll probably be laughing at your past self.

  9. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by emow View Post
    What you are proposing is nothing new, sir. To summarize your points:
    1. Force reconfiguration of demographics- ever wonder how israel - palestine conflicts began?
    2. 50-50 ownership policy - this has been Philippines bane as it limits investors willing to accept a 50% slash on their potential profit. Nothing new.
    3.GOCCs - you are suggesting more of the same. Government companies do not operate efficiently. Why? Because they dont operate on profit motive. Without profit, these companies will suck tax coffers just to maintain the salaries of unproductive employees. Goccs are useless entities, whose business could have been efficiently performed by competing private companies.
    4. Tax on the idle - not even the least learned economist would have ever conceptualized or consider such policy. Its just downright stupid. Just think it through.
    5. Draconian employment policy and foreign worker bias. Well, it's this simple. Businesses will hire the people it needs. Whether foreign or local, it is the discretion of the business because ultimately they bare the consequences. Wages are naturally pegged at supply and demand forces, not living cost. To mistake this concept, is to produce artificial unemployment even if the intent is to increase employment. Filipino workers will suffer as you enjoy a moral satisfaction that you thought you have done good. Typical of economic ignorance.
    6. Heres the kicker. You will discontinue businesses who cant follow your whims. Good job. First, you make the country unattractive for new investors. Then you are threatening to close the ones operating inspite of your dictations. And you will look for new investors after? Hmmmm....look at the first effect.

    Im not engaging a debate with you just for the sake of it. Im trying to show you how the same you are to the people we usually blame for the ills in the country. It is highly unlikely you can become president. But believe me, your sentiments are all too common for the majority of our people, morally superior, emotionally charged, but shallow, ignorant, and incapable of thinking beyond stage 1. I applaud you for trying to think things through with your suggestions. You just need to have foundations in economics first. You'll probably be laughing at your past self.
    Bos your the only one who knows that. Ikaw ra pud ang nka think ana. We'll it's yours if mao na an gimong t hinking. And mao na ang imong pag-sabot sa sa akong goal. You really jump to conclussion boss as I said I don't want to detailed anymore. Mao lang na ang basic akong ma expose and ma sulti diri.
    Anwrs:
    1.)That means the leader have lead the wrong way, that's why they have that.

    2.)Crazy, Wa mani cya kasabot oh but I understand(Just playing devils advocate here). I don't know why gi unsa nimo pag sabot na wla pa gani ko ka explain on how I will take the urban family that investors may engage with them.

    3.)Why do u limit to that?

    4.)Sa imo nang pamaagi boss. We have different ways.

    5.)Why u limit ur self to this investors?

    6.)As I said, d nalang ko mo details kay taas and I have limited time to elaborate each. Boss I have my own way I'm not afraid to loos investors because I have ways to call them back again, and it's up to them kn mag loud2x cla kay gpapahawa cla. And why mag focus rata ani nla na PLa ka investors around the world that are searching a place to invest and it's up to them. (They will lose if they will not invest). And that's my own ways. I will implement it if I will become a President.

    Lahi2x ta ug way boss, maybe sa imong ways mka agi and encounter ka na because u have lead in a wrong ways. Nag mention nako before na before nako i-implement is I want -ihan-ay nako tanan before I will IMPLEMENT it.
    Il make sure wlay ma apektohan, if naa man gani, naay clay options and that's for them na pero I'm working hard na d cla ma kwaan ug income and ma apektado ang ilang panginabuhi; and naa nana nako kn unsaon nako pag dala. Pero sa imoha u jump conclusion my friend. I don't know how good u are in economic but YEAH everybody needs to have foundation economics too; That's true Ya. That's nice that u realize it too.
    Pero one thing lang, that everybody has it's own way. Tnan butang mpangitaan ug way as long u do good things sa mga tawo. Tanan mga tawo mo aggreed jd nmo. So for that sa kanang imong ways, maybe because the way you govern is worst.
    And to that your statement, maybe you are just afraid to loos Chinese investors.

    Boss ur Trolling....
    By the way sa imong comment, mao ni akong ma reply.
    That is a clear example of someone ignorant of economics. This is no different from the ignorant politicians we have in the office, always mistaking intent for results.


    And now, d na cgro tka sakyan cause as I said that you want to play a devils advocate in this thread. ^___^
    Ur comment is something that u are really looking an excuses just to argue people thoughts.
    and that's nice, it really plays the role of as a devils advocate.

  10. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by Istudyante-Ni-Pikoy View Post
    Bos your the only one who knows that. Ikaw ra pud ang nka think ana. We'll it's yours if mao na an gimong t hinking. And mao na ang imong pag-sabot sa sa akong goal. You really jump to conclussion boss as I said I don't want to detailed anymore. Mao lang na ang basic akong ma expose and ma sulti diri.
    Anwrs:
    1.)That means the leader have lead the wrong way, that's why they have that.

    2.)Crazy, Wa mani cya kasabot oh but I understand(Just playing devils advocate here). I don't know why gi unsa nimo pag sabot na wla pa gani ko ka explain on how I will take the urban family that investors may engage with them.

    3.)Why do u limit to that?

    4.)Sa imo nang pamaagi boss. We have different ways.

    5.)Why u limit ur self to this investors?

    6.)As I said, d nalang ko mo details kay taas and I have limited time to elaborate each. Boss I have my own way I'm not afraid to loos investors because I have ways to call them back again, and it's up to them kn mag loud2x cla kay gpapahawa cla. And why mag focus rata ani nla na PLa ka investors around the world that are searching a place to invest and it's up to them. (They will lose if they will not invest). And that's my own ways. I will implement it if I will become a President.

    Lahi2x ta ug way boss, maybe sa imong ways mka agi and encounter ka na because u have lead in a wrong ways. Nag mention nako before na before nako i-implement is I want -ihan-ay nako tanan before I will IMPLEMENT it.
    Il make sure wlay ma apektohan, if naa man gani, naay clay options and that's for them na pero I'm working hard na d cla ma kwaan ug income and ma apektado ang ilang panginabuhi; and naa nana nako kn unsaon nako pag dala. Pero sa imoha u jump conclusion my friend. I don't know how good u are in economic but YEAH everybody needs to have foundation economics too; That's true Ya. That's nice that u realize it too.
    Pero one thing lang, that everybody has it's own way. Tnan butang mpangitaan ug way as long u do good things sa mga tawo. Tanan mga tawo mo aggreed jd nmo. So for that sa kanang imong ways, maybe because the way you govern is worst.
    And to that your statement, maybe you are just afraid to loos Chinese investors.

    Boss ur Trolling....
    By the way sa imong comment, mao ni akong ma reply.
    That is a clear example of someone ignorant of economics. This is no different from the ignorant politicians we have in the office, always mistaking intent for results.


    And now, d na cgro tka sakyan cause as I said that you want to play a devils advocate in this thread. ^___^
    Ur comment is something that u are really looking an excuses just to argue people thoughts.
    and that's nice, it really plays the role of as a devils advocate.
    Lol.... this guy is too much. Nothing worse than idealistic ignorance detached from reality and common sense. I'm not trolling, as my posts are related to the topic. One point for example, you said investors will lose if they do not invest in your government run country? As if we are the only country in the world. It's good that you prevented yourself from expounding, its almost laughable as it is tragic.

    Kung ikaw ma presidente (which is rhetorical), obviously gisahon ka sa pangutana... sa the way ka mutubag, you prsent arguments that have no logic, and empty. Im playing the devils advocate to see who are these idealist who are different from our current leaders. But if that is your escape from debating, go ahead. This is a forum. Your posts are open to scrutiny. Or would you rather have people licking your a$s?

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