81 Filipino peacekeepers in Syria against ISIS

[godwhacker]

mao na lagi ni ron... kaniadto pagka daghan dire ni abibar ug maayo sa mga rebelde nga gustong mapukan si Assad sa gahum. It is the rebels who attacked our soldiers and Assad did not put harm to our soldiers as peacekeeping troops. para sa mga hypocrite dire sa istorya,,, tsk ..tsk. kinsa man kuno karon ang more evil between the rebels aka, free syrian army, al nusra/al qaeda/ isis/isil/is and Assad?

[<SMILE>]

Lt. General Iqbal Singha Commander of UNDOF (an Indian National) ordered the Filipino Peacekeepers to surrender their weapons and raise the white flag, thinking this would save 44 Fijian peacekeepers.

--> What an idiot! No wonder why India has a very bad military record. They have incompetent military officials. They were pummeled by Alexander the Great, massacred by the Mongols, occupied by the British, received onslaught from Pakistan, and even suffered casualties from China during the Sino-Indian war. History do tell a tale.

Iyang esakripisyo ang atong mga sundalo para masalbar ang iyang mga kadugo tingale.
Dili na angay e-assign ug UN. Unsa kahay nahitabo kung ming-tuman pa sila ining oplok nga General.
mamutol ra ba ug ulo ning mga miyembro sa ISIS.

Indo-Fijians are Fijians whose ancestors came from India and various parts of South Asia and South-East Asia.[7] They number 313,798 (37.6%) (2007 census) out of a total of 827,900 people living in Fiji.[8] They are mostly descended from indentured labourers, girmitiyas or girmit, brought to the islands by Fiji's British colonial rulers between 1879 and 1916 to work on Fiji's sugar cane plantations. These were complemented by the later arrival of Gujarati and Punjabi immigrants who arrived as free settlers in contrast to their counterparts who were brought under the indentured labour system
Indians in Fiji - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[C'thulhu]

Interesting news regarding our deployment of peacekeepers in the Golan...

The AFP earlier revealed that "the greatest escape," or the nighttime evacuation of 40 Filipino peacekeepers from Position 68, was actually an act of defiance of the Philippines against the order of Gen. Singha.


The AFP originally consulted Singha about the escape plan, but the commander refused to sanction it, insisting that the peacekeepers in Position 68 sacrifice their arms.


"We were informing him (Singha) that we will escape, but he told Col. Enriquez, 'I don't want to hear your plans," Catapang said.

Filipino peacekeeper in Golan Heights quits post | ABS-CBN News

[7DMM]

I remember my former boss telling me this.

1. Mission
2. Welfare of your personnel.

If i could no longer perform my mission due to dire/unfavorable circumstances then welfare of my personnel will be my top priority.

[bleedingboi]

India's history has nothing to do with his decision. It's not really a shame to be conquered by Alexander the Great ... considering that they were the ones who stopped him. It's not really a shame to be conquered by the Mongols since everyone bent their know, and yes the Indians did also stop the Mongols from pushing through the entire subcontinent. It's not really a shame to be conquered by the British when half the world was owned by the British. They aren't really "receiving onslaught" from Pakistan. India is far and away the more successful state. Nobody won the Sino-Indian War ... both sides lost ... no one gained. So with that said, you wouldn't want to discuss the history of Filipino military accomplishments do you? So let's not rant about an entire civilization much older than the Philippines and how one man's decision somehow reflects on the entire country.

Pardon me. I was just infuriated of that General's decision contributing to another hostage crisis, a family friend of ours was one of those peacekeepers.

The truth is, none of the Indian empires of that time stopped Alexander even with superior numbers and usage of war elephants against the macedonians. He never lost these battles although casualties on the macedonian side were high (Kambojas,Siege of Aornos, Battle of Hydaspes, the Magadhas). It was internal turmoil and mutiny that halted his campaign, which he then decided to have a Satrap rule Northern india while he returned to Babylon.

During the mongol invasions, by the time Timur defeated the sultanate of Delhi ( Nasir Al-Din Mahmum) on 1398, India was plundered and occupied by Mongolia thus creating the birth of the Mughal Empire.

India's Mughal Empire was one of the world's most powerful during it's zenith in the 17th up to the 18h century.
However internal clashes between Nawabs, and resurgence of the Marathas caused their decline. The British were too smart to use that weakness to topple them.

The Chinese incorporated Napoleon's strategy using a horseshoe attack on two angles, which are 1000 kilometers apart, and this plan decimated Indian positions. It secured the Nathula Pass and capture the Namka Chu River. Chinese loss was almost 800 while India suffered most with almost 4000 casualty. It was clearly a Chinese win, before a ceasefire was declared.

Clearly it was an Indian win. But Indian military leaders were criticize by war analysts due to India's failure to achieve a decisive victory over Kashmir even with superior numbers and technology.
War of 1965, India had 700k infantry against 200k
War of 1971, India 600k against 300k.
Kargil war, India's 30k against 5k

But I can agree with you, not everything in history can happen in a repeat. But the General did made bad decisions.

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Sir, might I suggest studying India's history first before judging that civilizations military record...

Sorry to bump, but you don't need to study an entire nation's history to know how one faction win a battle, you read military journals to review what happened in that battlefield. I rarely post something on any forum without knowing about a bit on what happened in that very terrain.

[emberjim]

Bery vad decision indeed... The General didn't realized that most Filipino Soldiers where Christians and he has no idea what Muslim's think towards Christians. They were but pigs, that needs to be beheaded coz they only brought filth to their sacred grounds.

Good thing Filipino Soldiers were reluctant bringing a white hanky knowing that they will be stationed in a dusty desert coz it will only get too dirty, so they stood their ground.

The rest is History Class at its best. LOL

[salbahis]

staff ni singha which is a filipino ni resign...

[C'thulhu]

Sorry to bump, but you don't need to study an entire nation's history to know how one faction win a battle, you read military journals to review what happened in that battlefield. I rarely post something on any forum without knowing about a bit on what happened in that very terrain.

You may judge that civilization basing from military journals and how they fair in the battlefield, the fact is that civilization still stands, so imho, yeah studying their history might give us insights on how they lose battles and win wars... And to base a country's officers and military record on one man's decision does not sound prudent at all.

[bleedingboi]

You may judge that civilization basing from military journals and how they fair in the battlefield, the fact is that civilization still stands, so imho, yeah studying their history might give us insights on how they lose battles and win wars... And to base a country's officers and military record on one man's decision does not sound prudent at all.

I believe you are referring to a "race" not a "civilization", there's a difference between these two terms. A race persists in time, but a civilization doesn't. India has a number of Ancient Civilizations. From the pre-Alexander period, to the Magadhas, the Harrapans, the Mahaviras down to the Moghuls and all of them were eradicated due to genocide, massacres and intermarriages. What's left now are the modern Bengals and Hindu both Dravidians and Caucasians. I did overstated that first post, but there's a fraction of it that's actually correct, people need to admit that.

[C'thulhu]

I believe you are referring to a "race" not a "civilization", there's a difference between these two terms. A race persists in time, but a civilization doesn't. India has a number of Ancient Civilizations. From the pre-Alexander period, to the Magadhas, the Harrapans, the Mahaviras down to the Moghuls and all of them were eradicated due to genocide, massacres and intermarriages. What's left now are the modern Bengals and Hindu both Dravidians and Caucasians. I did overstated that first post, but there's a fraction of it that's actually correct, people need to admit that.

I was merely referring to India as the Indian civilization not the race as you cited in your previous posts. Those ancient civilizations starting from the sanskritization period onward is what made modern day India what it is today. The Magadhas to the Moghuls and to modern day India share the same dominant Hindu religion and Nagari/Devanagri text which also defines them as a civilization. Those empires and dynasties rise and fall but the culture as defined by their script, religion and languages remain the same. And if all of them were eradicated due to genocide, massacres and intermarriages, how come their customs, beliefs, traditions, literature and whatnot are still around in modern day India?

And going back to your first post, you are inferring that due to the bad judgement made by the Indian general, you then generalized that India has a "very bad military record" and "incompetent military officials". As supported by your statement "They were pummeled by Alexander the Great, massacred by the Mongols, occupied by the British, received onslaught from Pakistan, and even suffered casualties from China during the Sino-Indian war." Well if they are that bad, I'm just wondering why they are still around... Others could have just wiped them off the face of the earth...

And yes, history do tell a tale...