The Roman Catholic Church~ Questions

[SioDenz]

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kay dili ni siya creation but a product of billions of years of Natural Selection,

This is Not a FACT but only a Theory, wa paman gani ka kita sa Missing Link between man and apes nya Billion of Years of Evolution na nuon....

The Biggest question or Flaw of the Theory of Evolution is this: If you say Something Evolve and became human, eventually you will ask if WHERE did that something Came from? or Who created that Something that eventually evolved? its a never ending Question of where and How. And in the end, you still Arrive to a conclusion that Something has to be Created... or Someone created something..

[miket07]

This is Not a FACT but only a Theory, wa paman gani ka kita sa Missing Link between man and apes nya Billion of Years of Evolution na nuon....

The Biggest question or Flaw of the Theory of Evolution is this: If you say Something Evolve and became human, eventually you will ask if WHERE did that something Came from? or Who created that Something that eventually evolved? its a never ending Question of where and How. And in the end, you still Arrive to a conclusion that Something has to be Created... or Someone created something..

Sa bacteria daw gikan ingon sa uban.

[noy]

Sa bacteria daw gikan ingon sa uban.

i think ang mas dako nga pangutana kay asa gikan ang bacteria?

[miket07]

i think ang mas dako nga pangutana kay asa gikan ang bacteria?

related rapud na sa ako giask ni forester if asa gikan.Pero wala pamay tubag gihapon

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related rapud na sa ako giask ni forester if asa gikan.Pero wala pamay tubag gihapon

Basin ang bacteria gikan gihapon sa bacteria or from outer space from a meteorites. Or basin ni appear lang og kalit ang bacteria. Or some organism or unknown thing gikan ang bacteria. Kana mangambot jud ko if asa gikan.hehehe. Mao ni ask jud ko if sa bacteria ta gikan sama sa giingon sa uban.

[TheClockworks]

This is Not a FACT but only a Theory, wa paman gani ka kita sa Missing Link between man and apes nya Billion of Years of Evolution na nuon....

Whether you like it or not, Naay overwhelming evidence that makes EVOLUTION A FACT, Now kung naa kay laing explanation kung asa gikan ang modern humans I'm more than willing to hear from you. (this should be funny)

Anyway, That "Missing Link" on human evolution argument is a big misconception about evolution, kanang missing link term na sa duha ka scientists sa una namely Charles Lyell and Ernst Haeckel because during their time wala pa nadiskobrehan ang ubang human transitional fossils and Ernst Haeckel was still confused about the process of evolution.

Kung gusto pa ka makabalo about ana ug nganung ginagamit gihapon na sa UBAN hangtud karon here's a good article about that subject: Evolution 101: The Missing Link FAQ

So that makes you're missing link on human evolution argument invalid and a big misconception about evolution, kung mangutana ka sa ubang scientist karon kung asa ang missing link sa mga humans, kataw.an ra ka.

The Biggest question or Flaw of the Theory of Evolution is this: If you say Something Evolve and became human, eventually you will ask if WHERE did that something Came from? or Who created that Something that eventually evolved? its a never ending Question of where and How. And in the end, you still Arrive to a conclusion that Something has to be Created... or Someone created something..

Dili na flaw, that's just how things work, it's called the process of natural selection, Now kung mangutana ka kung asa gikan tanan up to the birth of the universe, Modern Physicists has already stated that it is possible that something can actually come from nothing, although wala pa juy final conclusion about that matter, but it's possible and currently being studied by Physicists.

Kung gusto kag nindot na discussion about that subject feel free to watch this and learn something.

[Jhared]

related rapud na sa ako giask ni forester if asa gikan.Pero wala pamay tubag gihapon

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Basin ang bacteria gikan gihapon sa bacteria or from outer space from a meteorites. Or basin ni appear lang og kalit ang bacteria. Or some organism or unknown thing gikan ang bacteria. Kana mangambot jud ko if asa gikan.hehehe. Mao ni ask jud ko if sa bacteria ta gikan sama sa giingon sa uban.

There are numerous theories regarding the appearance of life on earth, but since you are asking specifically how bacterias appeared,..

the first bacteria appeared approximately about 3.5 million years ago called Cyanobacterias, bacterias that survive through photosynthesis, much like plants do, they evolved like that because during the Archean eon, earth was much more hotter, and our atmosphere was covered by carbon dioxides, that's why they have to live with every means inorder to survive, consuming the Carbon from the CO2 and farting out the oxygen, these bacterias for millions of years became one of those responsible for the cooling of our earth.. these bacterias evolved from singled-cell organisms called Prokaryotes, which origins deserve another discussion entirely.. so there you go,..

[slabdans]

Ui kadaghang lihay naba ani 176 man to ako last count...pang 187 nani

Nayabag ikaw ang nakig discuss youtube imong patubagon? Unyag tubagon ni siodenz ang youtube, maghimo sad siyag iyang video

[SioDenz]

Whether you like it or not, Naay overwhelming evidence that makes EVOLUTION A FACT, Now kung naa kay laing explanation kung asa gikan ang modern humans I'm more than willing to hear from you. (this should be funny)

Overwhelming? hehe

So how did you Come up with those Billion Years of evolution? naa kay PHYSICAL FACTS dha ika present? or Mangopya nsad ka sa internet?

Anyway, That "Missing Link" on human evolution argument is a big misconception about evolution, kanang missing link term na sa duha ka scientists sa una namely Charles Lyell and Ernst Haeckel because during their time wala pa nadiskobrehan ang ubang human transitional fossils and Ernst Haeckel was still confused about the process of evolution.

So Science will ULTIMATELY CORRECT itself from time to time. Kay FACT man sad tong kang Charles Lyell and Ernst Haeckel sa una. PERO WRONG diay, so Karun naa sad Bag ong FACT. Sunod ma Wrong nsad, Sunod Ma FACT nsad if naay lain Evidence.

How can a FACT become Wrong sometime and then a NEW FACT will Emerge after the Previous one was DEBUNK?

So FACT is RELATIVE?

Dili na flaw, that's just how things work, it's called the process of natural selection, Now kung mangutana ka kung asa gikan tanan up to the birth of the universe, Modern Physicists has already stated that it is possible that something can actually come from nothing, although wala pa juy final conclusion about that matter, but it's possible and currently being studied by Physicists.

Kung gusto kag nindot na discussion about that subject feel free to watch this and learn something.

POSSIBLY ? Is it a FACT?

UNSAON pagka DILI Flaw ana nga WA MAY MATUBAG ang SCIENCE...

[SioDenz]

i think ang mas dako nga pangutana kay asa gikan ang bacteria?

If kana nga Pangutana Bro - Asa man Gikan?

Pila ra ka LEVEL sa ASa man gikan nga Question ang MATUBAG sa Science - After That, either they will answer you with Theory or Speculation.

[noy]

exactly, you cant proclaim that you believe in evolution at the same time denying random selection which is the fulcrum of said branch of study,..

if that is supposed to be something absolute then why do we have alternative point of views?
why do we see people in the scientific community believe that evolution is directed.

when you begin to know more about random selection, you'd find that it is not at all that random and chance driven like what you think it is., rather it is a change due to circumstances that might affect it.,

exactly my point curcumstances that appear as accidental to us but not to God.

one example perhaps is the recurrent laryngeal nerve, it's starting point is from the vagus nerve below the brain and ends just few inches down to the larynx., a giraffes vagus nerve however takes an average of 15 ft detour from below the brain down to its heart crisscrossing between organs and bones and back to the larynx, now that is not intelligent design, intelligent design would make it just a few inches and takes away those needless detours.. that's a result of evolution, a product borne out from the giraffe's genetic history,..

now let's not be absolute about things basing from personal perspectives bai..remember how people thought against or even questioned the existence of appendix? deeming it useless..when later discoveries are teeming with ideas that appendix helps protect good germ cells, helps the digestive system or immune system..
so di ta ka conclude nga way pulos nang complexity sa vagus nerve sa giraffe..hehehe
so you think that with intelligence like ours..it would have been better to make it just a few inches and take away those needless detours?
of course..nganu maglisud2x pa man diba? but what we do not know really is kung mao ba nay insakto nga paagi?

similarly we would rather live a good life(by good i mean however we see good)..kung pwede pa lang walay problema along the way..but that's just not the case..and on top of that, the greatest source of our learnings, maturity and understanding are the tough times we had to go through..surely we'd never have dreamed about struggles if we were to design our own lives..
but it turned out that hardships are essential to our growth as a human being..

but you can look at it the way you do now, that's up to you..

thanks bai, i appreciate the tolerance and respect for diversity.

did they explicitly said that evolution is false?.. no but they explicitly mean to say that it is true,. saying nga sauna before ni exist ang tanan, blah blah blah...

well..to some extent..the genesis for us is true, another side of truth perhaps..obviously not the scientific Truth..hehe..
and its catechism man pud bai..mag guol ka ug Science class unya mag istorya ug young earth creationism..hehe

it's different when you're just simplifying to your kids, here the cathecists really mean it, they themselves actually believe in this,,

i thought they didn't explicitly said that evolution is false?

nya you dont underestimate the learning capacity of an elementary student, much less the high school's.. depende lang na sa pagpasabot, i should know coz im a teacher myself..

no bai oi..it's never about underestimating the learning capacity bai..
it's just categorizing what to teach..for the same reason why under normal circumstances we don't teach algebra to elementary pupils.
so for kids, perhaps the story telling kind of catechism..as catholics grow older, perhaps we start with the harder perspective..

but like i said previously, personally mas maayo kung inig tudlo pa lang sa mga kids daan kay obvious na ang relationship between Scientific and Biblical accounts on creation..but not in the sense that we have to discuss about evolution to kids who only know basic science..

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Wala nimo gi tubag akong pangutana, pero e assume nako na mao ning pasabot nimo sa "Visible Traces" og "Argument of Design"

Cge kag gamit ug word na "creation" which is wrong, kay dili ni siya creation but a product of billions of years of Natural Selection, sa akong pag sabot nimo murag na amaze ka because of how things work mao you jumped in to a conclusion na naay "creator" ani tanan, But you really just lack the knowledge.

Natural Selection because of the Natural and specific laws that binds Nature..
the question is, how is it that the universe is able to put up specific Laws if everything was supposed to be a product of chance? can something random really produce specifics?

actually bai, gitubag na nako imung pangutana..through ni Xian120..
i don't see a point repeating myself..especially nga perti rang duola sa ligas sa mga posts..unya pareha2x ra mo ug punto..
no offense bai but mas maayo lang kaistorya(with tact) ug mupresent sa argument si Xian..so tell me, do i have any reason nga tubagon pa taka personally? hahaha..i suggest you tag along if you don't wanna be left behind..