The Roman Catholic Church~ Questions

[bizz_dakk]

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OT: basta something sa religion na gani ang topic lisod jud kaayo magkasabot mao sad cguro nay rason nganong daghan kaayog sects ang christianism..thats a good thing mn sad nga naay react mao bitaw gitawag na "forums"..pero dili lng tamo react nga makaligis ta ug opinion sa uban para walay masakitan...

OnT: para sa atong mga sirs ug mam naa koy question: unsay inyong masulti sa commandment no.2 ug sa atong pagka devotee of a certain saints..dili ba ni cya conflict? Kbaw ko nga dugay na kaayo ni nga issue gidebate pero basin ug naay maka expalin ani diri with details...im a catholic myself and it doesnt mean nga i am losing faith to the religion but its just a discussion for this thread...ug naay ganahan motubag..salamat.

[bizz_dakk]

FYI

COMMANDMENT NO.2

"You shall not make for yourself a carved image—any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments."

[Gjhone]

FYI

COMMANDMENT NO.2

"You shall not make for yourself a carved image—any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments."

representation
veneration
og ubang mga "tion"

hehe..

wala paman gudto kaila og ginoo sauna sir, karon kay kaila naman...

kanang makit-an nimo nag luhod2x og saints, ask lang na sila kun kinsa jud ila gi ampoan, ang rebulto ba itself, or ang nag represent ba sa rebulto, or basin naa lang syay gi hunghung nga pangaliya sa atong labaw.

dako sad jud influence ang culture sauna hangtod karon...mga karaan tao mao na sila..pero ang modern nga RC....kevs naman sila.

and one more thing..wala jud mag tudlo ang pari nga ampoe ni silang mga santos kay maoni ang Ginoo.

[heartthr0b]

[mr_kyme]

Bago pa gani gi post sa mods ang rules.

For the newcomers, trolls , confused , atheist , anti Christ , anti Catholic etc .

Keep this thread for your question/s and someone will answer it. After it has been answered, go on with the a new one or do not attempt to create a discussion that you do not agree with it. Post it somewhere or make a new thread why you do not agree with it as long as no similar thread existed.

Do not make any statements outside the question and answer, there is a thread for it why you do not agree with Roman Catholics, avoid posting pictures that has nothing to do with the thread.

I hope I am clear this time. I will instantly mute violators . Thank you.

Gi post pa gani oh ni mods @SPRINGFIELD_XD_40.

avoid posting pictures that has nothing to do with the thread.

[miramax]

Unsa may naa ug mo tubag sad ko sa akong panahom ug nahibaw-an sa bible biaan dili ko katoliko? Kay ngano di ie nanghilabot bako sa doktrina katoliko? Nitabang paman gani ko kutob sa akong maabot, karon kung OT ang hisgutan, unsa man na doktrina na imong gusto ipasupot nga dili.pwede dri ang dili katoliko? Aw kung mao na dapat wala ni nga thread, ibalhin balang nis simbahan kay dili man ko mosud disto

First let me ask you, did u ever see your name specifically mentioned in any of my post/s?
Now, if you feel and you want to take that post specifically for you then it's your own prerogative.
However, that does not mean that you can attack me or any poster like you always do in other thread if you don't like the opinion of others.
We all know how well versed you are with the forum rules here cos u keep reminding/reprimanding the others specially newbies but this time let me just give you a slight reminder on this particular rule; stated as below:

2. Posts should be composed in such a manner that respects persons of all races, religions, cultures, and sexualities. No post may contain personal attacks, as they have no proper place in discussions. The purpose of this forum is to facilitate growth, not to belittle others. This also applies to Private Messages and the Shoutbox entries. Attack the Opinion not the Person.
Btw, this is my first and last reply to your comment. Since wordwar isn’t my cup of coffee.
Do me a favor dear, if you have any issues with me. You and I both know I’m just a PM/SKYPE away.
This is not the right/proper venue para magpakita-ay tah kinsay isog nato duha or kinsay isog/bagsik dri sa Istorya.
Adto tas gawas sa istorya magtigi.
I have to reiterate this again and again, Ang tinood isog wala dri sa forum tuas gawas.

@mods,
Do what you have to do and what you think is best!
I always trust your fair judgment.

[slabdans]

First let me ask you, did u ever see your name specifically mentioned in any of my post/s?
Now, if you feel and you want to take that post specifically for you then it's your own prerogative.
However, that does not mean that you can attack me or any poster like you always do in other thread if you don't like the opinion of others.
We all know how well versed you are with the forum rules here cos u keep reminding/reprimanding the others specially newbies but this time let me just give you a slight reminder on this particular rule; stated as below:

2. Posts should be composed in such a manner that respects persons of all races, religions, cultures, and sexualities. No post may contain personal attacks, as they have no proper place in discussions. The purpose of this forum is to facilitate growth, not to belittle others. This also applies to Private Messages and the Shoutbox entries. Attack the Opinion not the Person.
Btw, this is my first and last reply to your comment. Since wordwar isn’t my cup of coffee.
Do me a favor dear, if you have any issues with me. You and I both know I’m just a PM/SKYPE away.
This is not the right/proper venue para magpakita-ay tah kinsay isog nato duha or kinsay isog/bagsik dri sa Istorya.
Adto tas gawas sa istorya magtigi.
I have to reiterate this again and again, Ang tinood isog wala dri sa forum tuas gawas.

@mods,
Do what you have to do and what you think is best!
I always trust your fair judgment.

hatagi daw kog lain nga members nga active ani nga thread nga way lain gamiton kundili bible lang, kay kung kini atong basihan

Wala mantay isyu sa mga pangutana sir, kinsay mangutana. Mas makasabot pa gani ko sa querent if he/she is a non believer.
Akoa pasabot kana dili tinood Romano Katoliko unya pina sweto kaayo sa doktrina Romano Katoliko kay lageh memorize nah nila bible unya naa say google

klaro ug tataw nga ako ang imong tumong, kung kung kadtong mga non believer mas makasabot paka kaysa kadtong magpa swerto2x kay lagi memorize ang bible, kung dili na ako, naa kay nailhan nga active ani nga thread nga hilig ug biblical verse? sultihi daw ko.

regarding forum rule number2, naa ba koy gibanatan nga religion? imbis gusto sa moderator masunod ang thread nga Q&A lang unta nikalit lang mog gimaw diri para sa laing hut-ong sa OT rasad

hunong nas imong mga patagad ui, asta diri mosud ka para lang mo pm ko nimo? ka despirada nagud nimo

[mr_kyme]

Okay balik nata sa real thread.

Okay for the next question: How many churches in Cebu(region 7) totally and chapels na ni exist sa inyong nahibawan.

[noy]

i remember the first time i talked to you you did not believe in evolution or in something that negates your god presumptions.

now i came back here and suddenly you're talking evolution.. there's no challenge in that..

did i explicitly say that i did not not believe in evolution?
i believe you misunderstood bai..
i do not believe what atheists are claiming about evolution, that it's suppose to prove that God does not exist..because of visible traces how everything came into being..i reasoned against Atheistic view on evolution with the argument of design and not evolution itself.

when there was not yet the theory of evolution, you christians used to believe that genesis and noah were true, now comes evolution and catholics suddenly shifted and said, "ya maybe its true, god did it" "whatever maybe proven as true, god did it".. well what if allah did it?..

The Church never had any official interpretation about how exactly creation accounts are to be interpreted as well as for the genesis flood.
even early Church Fathers differ from their understanding on the subjects..

therefore, this shift that you speak of never took place..
and there is no burden of conscience when the Church should refine their understanding on certain subjects because the church never made anything dogmatic in the first place..

even St. Augustine a 5th century Church Father argued that God created
everything instantaneously only that creation unfolded in a much longer process..
which is one of the point of views i made an example earlier..
far more different from the young earth creationism views...actually bai, kanang grabe ka mga literal kaayo nga take sa creation accounts started to surface after na sa protestant reformation..no offese meant sa mga protestant Christians but that's also the reason why most young earth creationists are non-Catholic Christians.

Allah? Allah is arabic for God..the creator of all things..the equivalent of the God of Abraham for the Jews....the first person of the Trinity for Christians..
of course..i wouldn't have problems with Allah creating the heavens and the earth..

now the church is saying they have no official position on the matter - whether its literal or not - at the same time not denying the possibility that maybe the creation story is literal.. to me that's clinging to a safer side,.

the Church is not saying now that there's no official position..
the Church is saying that it never had an official position..maski pa imung i research..hehehe

before the theory of evolution surfaced bai, unsa pud kahay understanding sa Scientific community regarding our origins? basin genesis pud 'cause most thinkers in the past are religious..but i am inclined to believe that it should not be the same with how young earth creationists interpret genesis accounts on creation..

"Even before the development of modern scientific method, Catholic theology had allowed for biblical text to be read as allegorical, rather than literal, where it appeared to contradict that which could be established by science or reason."
Catholic Church and evolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

yet the church do not hesitate to summon their minions to elementary schools and doctrinate children by telling them stories like it actually happened,.. maglibog mansad ang studyante kong unsa ilang tuohan, ang unggoy2 o ang bitin2... lol..

then the catechists were teaching their point of view if that were the case and not of the Church.

on the other hand, if i were the catechist, though i'm not sure that i could do better..i wouldn't teach the kids in a conflicting manner which would appear that they would have to choose between Science and Religion..

[porbidaman]

Naa mai ka LQ si slabs diay...