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    Quote Originally Posted by H.Wolowitz View Post
    @noy: boss, what is the catholic church's stand on giving blessings to a dead person due to suicide?
    bro, i believe natubag na ni diri..kadaghan na actually..hehehehe

    Catechism of the Catholic Church 2283
    "We should not despair of the eternal salvation of persons who have taken their own lives. By ways known to him alone, God can provide the opportunity for salutary repentance. The Church prays for persons who have taken their own lives."

    sala jud na ang pagpakamatay, pero misahan gihapun na simbahan ug iampo gihapun ang kalag sa namatay kay ang Ginoo ray nasayod sa iyang kaluwasan.
    although bug.at jud kaayo na nga sala,as far as the teachings of the Church is concerned..sayop nang notion nga dritso empyerno ang magpakamatay..
    ug musamot ug kasayop kung i deprive nato sa kalag ang atong pag ampo para niya tungod kay nagpakamatay siya. on the contrary, mas kinahanglan nato siya i-ampo
    Last edited by noy; 08-20-2014 at 10:12 PM.

  2. #9142
    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    bro, i believe natubag na ni diri..kadaghan na actually..hehehehe

    Catechism of the Catholic Church 2283
    "We should not despair of the eternal salvation of persons who have taken their own lives. By ways known to him alone, God can provide the opportunity for salutary repentance. The Church prays for persons who have taken their own lives."

    sala jud na ang pagpakamatay, pero misahan gihapun na simbahan ug iampo gihapun ang kalag sa namatay kay ang Ginoo ray nasayod sa iyang kaluwasan.
    although bug.at jud kaayo na nga sala,as far as the teachings of the Church is concerned..sayop nang notion nga dritso empyerno ang magpakamatay..
    ug musamot ug kasayop kung i deprive nato sa kalag ang atong pag ampo para niya tungod kay nagpakamatay siya. on the contrary, mas kinahanglan nato siya i-ampo
    hehe mag-balik2x jd ni nga question diri nga thread bro kay lisud na i-backread sa in-ani katas-un nga thread

    but its good to know nga mao nay standing sa church ron

  3. #9143
    Quote Originally Posted by miramax View Post
    @mr_kyme
    Thanks for pointing it out!
    Magsugod ta sah tah sa basic before tah moabante kay dili man tanan gud makasabay.
    Pwd man sguro nato mautilize neh nga thread isip mkashare ug mga inputs nga makahatag lamdag/clarity sa mga kalihukan, pamaagi sa simbahan kesa magsinipukay sa ulo.
    Daghan pakaayo tah wala masayre isip tinood nga ROmano Katoliko sa atong relihiyon ug sa simbahan kinatibuk-an.

    @noy,
    With all due respect sir, I'm sure others will agree with me dili man lang gud kay Purong ROmano Katoliko ang mosawsaw sa isyu para matigaw ang mga topics ultimo taga laing denominations nga dili man unta purong Romano Katoliko pinamay man kaayo kesa tinood Romano Katoliko (naa bya pud other forms of Catholics) doctrines; dogmas etc.

    Hangyo lang mi otherwise...mods nalay atong padesisyonon.
    aw sige lang...basta pangutana lang..ila man pud nang katungod..like ni raissah, she's a protestant Christian pero sige siya ug pangutana diri not because she wanted a debate but just to learn about Catholicism..
    naa pud si siodenz, another protestant Christian naa siyay gusto i clarify regarding the Catholic perspective..

    and also, there are Roman Catholics themselves who have so many questions about Doctrines...which could either lead them to abandon or turn against their Faith given the circumstances they should meet along the way..
    personally i hated the church sa una out of ignorance..so mas maayo nga well informed ta sa atong kaugalingong pagtuo...but that's just me..

    but i do see where you're coming from and i understand..pero kung naay masagol nga mga haters ug bashers...let's hope nga masikop dayun sa mga pulis..hehehehe.. after all, we can always report man pud..
    Last edited by noy; 08-20-2014 at 10:39 PM.

  4. #9144
    Is ressurection day falls on sunday?

  5. #9145
    Quote Originally Posted by H.Wolowitz View Post
    hehe mag-balik2x jd ni nga question diri nga thread bro kay lisud na i-backread sa in-ani katas-un nga thread

    but its good to know nga mao nay standing sa church ron
    yes i understand..mao ning answer gihapun ko..hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    aw sige lang...basta pangutana lang..ila man pud nang katungod..like ni raissah, she's a protestant Christian pero sige siya ug pangutana diri not because she wanted a debate but just to learn about Catholicism..
    naa pud si siodenz, another protestant Christian naa siyay gusto i clarify regarding the Catholic perspective..

    and also, there are Roman Catholics themselves who have so many questions about Doctrines...which could either lead them to abandon or turn against their Faith given the circumstances they should meet along the way..
    personally i hated the church sa una out of ignorance..so mas maayo nga well informed ta sa atong kaugalingong pagtuo...but that's just me..

    but i do see where you're coming from and i understand..pero kung naay masagol nga mga haters ug bashers...let's hope nga masikop dayun sa mga pulis..hehehehe.. after all, we can always report man pud..
    Wala mantay isyu sa mga pangutana sir, kinsay mangutana. Mas makasabot pa gani ko sa querent if he/she is a non believer.
    Akoa pasabot kana dili tinood Romano Katoliko unya pina sweto kaayo sa doktrina Romano Katoliko kay lageh memorize nah nila bible unya naa say google
    Last edited by miramax; 08-20-2014 at 11:56 PM.

  7. #9147
    Quote Originally Posted by miramax View Post
    Wala mantay isyu sa mga pangutana sir, kinsay mangutana. Mas makasabot pa gani ko sa querent if he/she is a non believer.
    Akoa pasabot kana dili tinood Romano Katoliko unya pina sweto kaayo sa doktrina Romano Katoliko kay lageh memorize nah nila bible unya naa say google
    Unsa may naa ug mo tubag sad ko sa akong panahom ug nahibaw-an sa bible biaan dili ko katoliko? Kay ngano di ie nanghilabot bako sa doktrina katoliko? Nitabang paman gani ko kutob sa akong maabot, karon kung OT ang hisgutan, unsa man na doktrina na imong gusto ipasupot nga dili.pwede dri ang dili katoliko? Aw kung mao na dapat wala ni nga thread, ibalhin balang nis simbahan kay dili man ko mosud disto

  8. #9148
    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    why not?
    anyways,my presumptions do not suggest that i am shifting from one idea to another as i never absolutely concluded anything about the origin of the universe in physical or scientific terms.
    instead, i am laying over the possibilities..

    yes i am like you and everyone else in the planet who do not know how exactly the universe began in scientific terms..simply because wa pa jud nato natugkad tanan scientifically..

    i am sure that there is God,what i am not sure of is how God exactly started creation.


    precisely, the author knew nothing about cosmological evolution, that's why the genesis creation accounts should not carry the burden of scientific inconsistencies for the reason that it wasn't presented as something scientific in the first place.

    some folks tend to see it that way but it's never dogmatic..although some actually makes sense.
    some biblical accounts though not presented in a scientific manner can be associated with recent scientific facts..

    for examples click this link: Science and the Bible

    of course, all could boil down to one's perspective..but the point is we can't blame if people would qoute biblical consistencies with science.
    personally, i don't agree with a couple or more examples on the link but like i said earlier some actually makes sense. hehe
    i remember the first time i talked to you you did not believe in evolution or in something that negates your god presumptions.

    now i came back here and suddenly you're talking evolution.. there's no challenge in that..

    when there was not yet the theory of evolution, you christians used to believe that genesis and noah were true, now comes evolution and catholics suddenly shifted and said, "ya maybe its true, god did it" "whatever maybe proven as true, god did it".. well what if allah did it?..

    now the church is saying they have no official position on the matter - whether its literal or not - at the same time not denying the possibility that maybe the creation story is literal.. to me that's clinging to a safer side,. yet the church do not hesitate to summon their minions to elementary schools and doctrinate children by telling them stories like it actually happened,.. maglibog mansad ang studyante kong unsa ilang tuohan, ang unggoy2 o ang bitin2... lol..

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    hala lihay count number 90 meme napud

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