The Roman Catholic Church~ Questions

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[slabdans]

mau gyud ni akong pangutana sd unta. ngnung walai ge buhat ang admin.

Naay gibuhat ang admin ug mods gahi lang jud ni siya pasabton, dili na maihap ni iyang acct nga gipang ban sa mods, asa ka mangita ana, nag self proclaim na bright daw siya, dali siya makasabot, pero sa simpling rules dili makasabot, diba contradicting kaayo

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[flublu]

iya na tanan accnts bai? hahaha grbehaa. wa nlang juy lain buhat sa balay ba. cge nlang ug yaw2 sa istorya. hahaha

[slabdans]

iya na tanan accnts bai? hahaha grbehaa. wa nlang juy lain buhat sa balay ba. cge nlang ug yaw2 sa istorya. hahaha

uu iyaha na nanga ban nana

[miramax]

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He, he..abi nakog ako ray nakabantay.
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Dia pay lain ai...https://www.istorya.net/forums/genera...group-114.html

[flublu]

bsag asa miss. hahaha gusto gyud sya madunggan sa tanan.

[noy]

Last nalang ni bai @defender_1611 hahahaha! ako na dayun tumaon ang advice ni bai @Xian120 then next question na ta..hahaha

Cge na lang tag balik balik aning mendel nimo tanga?
Proof na delusional si mendel? Dugay na kaayo nako na gi tubag, Ang proof kay mu tuo gihapon siyag imaginary friend, dili lang basta basta mu tuo, Isa siya ka die hard uto uto anang fairytale bible ninyo. Mao nang proof. bulok.

hahaha! tua ra! opinion man na tawn nimu...di man na proof...
muingon gani ka ug proof kanang with absolute basis..dili kay imung panahom..haskang ka komendyante nimu..Lol

Naa pa kay pa "hand in hand" diha, genetic ra to sa plants iyaha, wala siya nag hisgot sa evolution sa human spieces, kasabot ka? tanga, Maski wala pa na ma-tao nang ugok na mendel ninyo, ma diskobrehan gihapon na ni charles darwin na gikan sa unggoy ang modern humans.

Wala koy pakialam anang bugok na mendel nimo, in fact, na diskobrehan ra pud sa mga future scientists ang genetics without knowing the work of mendel. oplok ka. basura ra nang mendel nimo, ayaw cgeg panghambog ana, wala ra nay katunga sa mga atheist na scientists, Mao grabe imong pag idolize anang mendel kay na igno ka anang genetics, ambi nimog unsa na ka complicated nang genetics. hahaha

hahaha! pastilan nimu brader..ay kaayo pahalata nga murag pinasweto ra na imung style kay musamot kag kauwawan oi..

First of All, wa ko magkiglalis nga botanical genetics tong kang Mendel..hahaha
but since all life forms are related..maong swak ang genetics in explaining or
expounding heredity which was a vital point in Darwin's evolution of species.

Second of all,na diskobrehan ra pud sa mga future scientists ang genetics without knowing the work of mendel. na unsa ka? mao ganing nakit.an ang research ni Mendel kay whenever mag conduct ug study ang mga scientist on a certain field..mag research na sila kung naa bay mga existing theory..so makit.an ug makit.an jud na kang mendel..and from there, diha ilang i verify kung insakto ba ang theory or dili.. tawn pud nimu oi...trying hard ra kaayo ka brad causing you to fall out from reason..

Finally, kanang hand in hand nga akong pasabut, di na nagpasabut ha nga si Mendel ug si Darwin kay papards to..namatay nalang si Darwin..wala to nasulbad iyang problema sa iyang theory..ug wala sila nagka ila ni mendel..

why am i not surpirsed that up until now..simang gihapun imung mga istorya..hahaha..
Instead, mao ni ang pasabut..
BASAHA ug TARONG..ug siltihe ko unsay imung nasabtan para klaro...question or raise a counter argument from this excerpt. kung di gani ka kabutang sa imung next post ug counter argument..it only means one thing.. LIKAY napud kay wa ka G.. BOOM!

"Darwin's theory of evolution by natural selection was initially welcomed, there were two very big holes in the theory. One was the explosion of life forms in the early Cambrian period with no apparent transitional forms of life leading up to these species. The other was heredity.And because of Mendel's proposition of recessive and dominant traits, a trait that might disappear in one generation might reappear in the following generation. Mendel's work was incorporated into Darwin's original theory to give us our modern Neo-Darwinism. "
source: Mendel, Darwin and Evolution

sa bisaya pa brad, maski pag probable tong theory ni Darwin dunay daghang buslot ug posible ra tong mabasura..kung wala pa na incorporate ngadto sa genetic discovery ni mendel..posible ra tong ma dismiss kang darwin...hahaha

basa-basa din pag may time ha..
Evolution: Library: What Darwin Didn't Know: Gregor Mendel and the Mechanism of Heredity

Common sense na lang na, Pangutan.on tika, kung ikaw usa ka Christianong uto uto na tangaon sa unang panahon, let's say in the 15th century, unya mangutana ko sa imuha kung asa gikan ang tao? Alangan naman mu dagan ka sa "theistic evolution" na wala pa man na diskobrehan ang evolution ni adto, siyempre mu dagan ka anang gensis ninyo, unya ingnon nimo na gi magic sa inyuhang "ginoo" (kuno) ang pag himo niya sa mga tao. ana ka kataw.anan ang relihiyon niinyo sa una, na menos menosan gamay karon kay ni sakay mo sa evolution.

unsay common sense ra? apili ug history brad kay dili tanan pwede ra nimu ibase sa imung panahom..mao bitawng dili pwede mahimong PROOF ang opinion..Lol

speaking of common sense, now since wala pa may theory of evolution ning butho. meaning tanang TAO not only the religious community would postulate their own theory of origins.. INCLUDING the SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY...
so..sa panahon nga wala pay theory of evolution..ambut ug unsa kaha puy huna-huna sa mga scientist sa unang panahon bahin sa origin of species? basin ug Genesis pud..Lol

one more thing, still under the common sense category, if the Church did not make any absolute or Dogmatic claims regarding the Genesis accouint to be taken literally as in 6 day creation. 6000 year old earth . man from dust literally..
would the Church be held accountable if they would accept evolution?
common sense would tell you dili..
sa binisaya pa brad, kung wa ko nagsulti nga bugo ka, ngano imu man kong pahatagon ug proof sa imung kabugo? LOL
ngano imu mang paninglan ang simbahan nga naay giusab nga wala may gi establish in the first place?
the church did not make any absolute claims..so when the Church refines her doctrine in line with scientific results..there's no burden of conscience there..
KASABUT KA BRAAAAAD? hahahahahaha...paita..

now let's go to history shall we?
Where in History we can READ that the Church was DOGMATIC about the Literal take of Genesis..in fact, ang mga karaang Kristoyano..nagka lahi-lahi ilang panahom bahin sa Genesis creation..naa uban muingon 6 days jud..naay uban instant ra daw..naa puy uban nga murag dugay jud kay a day of the lord is a thousand years lagi daw..etc..

sige brad..sugdi ug hakyad imung mga HISTORICAL DATA.
pakit.a ko ug pagtulon.ang katoliko sukad pa sa sinugdan nga nag ingon ang simbahan nga the world was created in 6-24 hour days and that man was created from dust literally...official teaching ha...dili kay mga panahom sa mga karaang Christian .meaning, makita nato sa mga councils ug sa Vatican 1 nga the church agreed to take the LITERAL position on biblical creation.

Kadtong lang nang 1950's ni sakay ang vatican sa evolution, kay kataw.anan na kaayo paminawon na gi magic ra tanan sa ilahang ginoo (kuno). Pero maski karon daghan gihapon kaayog tanga na uto utong kristiyano na bugo sama nimo na mu tuo ug "theistic evolution" or the "creation story" mao mao ra na, mahulog gihapon nag magic magic sa inyuhang imaginary na ginoo tanga! hahaha!

unsay ning sakay? taka raman ka..like the others, the Church have been waiting for a more realized theory concerning our origins.. mao bitaw nga ang Church mismo naay scientific observatory for confirmation and verification sa mga secular scientific findings because we value the Truth.as well as to conduct
scientific studies..

ug sa dihang naklaro na...wa diay ka kasabut ug unsay Theistic evolution b..hahaha otherwise you wouldn't have compared it with the creation story which is commonly known as young earth creationism..especially nga naghisgut kag magic2x.. Lol tua ra...
hoy ang theistic evolution, it is a point of view that views both science and biblical narratives on creation are different sides of Truth. ang Spiritual Truth, mao na ang naa sa Bible..ang Physical Truth is ang scientific findings..
therefore, and genesis creation accounts should be understood allegorically or in metaphors.. sus...nimu..unya nangopya ko nimu sa imung theistic evolution? nyahahahahahahaha! oh my God nimu brader! pag stand up comedian nalang sa mga comedy bar kay natural ra kaayo nimu...

Mura sad kag korek missing link? Wala man gani ka kasabot unsay meaning ana, homo erectus sad ignorante kaayo ka sa mga ing.anang butang, mura kag korek oi, ka bugo nimo. pag research ug imuha diha, unya sabta ug maayo, kapoy ug type unya dili gihapon ka kasabot.

hahaha! no need to expound on homo erectus brad..it's as simple as one of the hominid family tree..in other words usa ni sa mga extinct nga posibleng direct ginakanan sa mga modern men..
ug naa pay usa ka simple kaayo nga butang..kining homo erectus di na mao ang missing link! gahiag agtang nimu oi...ang missing link kay ang COMMON ANCESTOR..so tubaga ko..unsa man nang common ancestor nato with the chimpz?
if COMPLETE man kaha ang details..ha? wa napud kay tubag...Lol

Ni tukar napud imong pagka bugo sa reading comprehension, kanus.a ko ni ingon
na tagna tagna ra ang theory? Pag basa og tarong oi. wala tay padulongan anang non-existing reading comprehension nimo. ugok.

sus sa post #9056
ingun ka nga way flaw ang evolution.
in post #9088
ingun ko nga if complete ang theory like you claimed. why does it remained a theory?
in post #9100
ning react dayun ka ug "Dili na theory ang evolution, tanga it is a widely accepted fact" as if ang theory nga pasabut kay kanang theory tsismis2x..
ergo i explained further in post #9112
"in scientific terms, when one is labeled as a theory, di na nagpasabut nga tagna2x ra na...Lol so pataka ra kag react.."
kung kasabut pa ka unsay theory from the scientific perspective in the frst place,
di unta ko mu react ug " dili na theory ang evolution"... LOL LOL LOL....(infinity)
USAPA na brader!

kung mamugos ka nga dili jud theory ang evolution..not even from the scientific perspective..aw hinganli lagi ang common ancestor sa chimpz and humans..
unya i explain kung giunsa pagbutho ang first life form sa kalibutan..
COMPLETE MAN KAHA? sus! dakla imung ulo!

Murag ignorante pa kaayo ka sa evolution, basaha nimog maayo kay murag tangaon pa kaayo ka


The emergence of humans

hahahaha! grabe ka taas pero kataw.anan kaayo...kay wa jud intawn nahaom..aw hinuon copy paste raman pud.. LOL

ngano namugos man ka ug explain sa evolution..nga ang CATHOLIC CHURCH brader! wa lagi mu dispute sa evolution? haskaaaaaaaaaang.....nyahahahaha!

Gikan raman gyud na sa wikipedia imong mga post, unya ang sources kay sa mga christian websites ra sad, mga uto utong bugo ra pariha nimo ang mag pa uto ana.

ang sources sa wikipedia kay puro Christian perspective? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! hoy! grabe naman nang sakita oi!
LOL!!!!! can you believe this guy right here?
sige daw beh..ipakita daw diri nga puro na Christian sources ang naa sa wikipedia...naunsa naman tawn ka oi...pacheck up na tawn oi..

Klaro kaayo oi, basta naa kay first time na madunggan na word sa akoa, gamiton dayon nimo, Pariha adtong history sa roman empire, ignorante kaayo ka adto na topic, wala nagka-dimao imong reply, igo na lang ka ni dagan na murag bayo ug ni ingon og "daghag istorya way igo"

Aw ana ka ka bugo, pati history sa imong sariling relihiyon wa ka kabalo, pagka oplok na lang jud nimo

oi naunsa naman ni..gitagaan ug proof nga wa ko nanundog niya sa theistic evolution..tubagon man tag pina hanggaw...hahahaha! likay number unsa na kaha ni..LOL asa naman imung proof oi nga nangopya ko nimu anang theistic evolution.. wa man gani ka kasabut unsa na in the first place? theistic evolution daw kay genesis creation story unya magic2x..nyahahahahahaha!
undangi na nang Katol du!

speaking of romans..
hahahaha! which reminds me...asa na gani imung proof nga si Jesus was an invention of Romans? or imvention of his disciples? hahahahaha

asa napud ang proof nga non-christian accounts on the historicity og Jesus such as accounts from Josephus and Tacitus were forged and tampered...
wa nagkadimao akong tubag? or wa lang ka kasabut...LOL
ay na sigeg yaw2x diha...PROOF dayun..klaro kaayo way tubag napud ni..

[Ivan James]

evolution and creation can never be reconciled., nor compliment each other..

evolution IS genetic mutation..

Yeah it's genetic mutation. But science sees the process of everything. I mean the process. The bible didn't tell us the minute processes involve during the time of creation. But with science we were able to know those small processes. A day for God can be a thousand, ten thousands or whatever years for us. So maybe evolution was part of that big story of creation. But of course there are many contradictions in between. Maybe we can work it out. I only believe in a supreme being. For now, I do not really want to involve myself in any religion.

[heartthr0b]

A day for God can be a thousand, ten thousands

so your g0d rested for thousands of years...what a lazy g0d...

[noy]

Yeah it's genetic mutation. But science sees the process of everything. I mean the process. The bible didn't tell us the minute processes involve during the time of creation. But with science we were able to know those small processes. A day for God can be a thousand, ten thousands or whatever years for us. So maybe evolution was part of that big story of creation. But of course there are many contradictions in between. Maybe we can work it out. I only believe in a supreme being. For now, I do not really want to involve myself in any religion.

kung mao nay feel nimu nga makatabang nimu brad..aw go go go! Lol
pero agree ko sa imung point of view regarding biblical accounts on creatio and Science..
i think both are different side of truths..mao pud nay point of view sa Catholic Church regarding biological evolution..

so on the topic. pwede ka mangutana bai parte sa mga doctrines and teachings of the RCC.. para pud malumos ang mga hinanggaw nga istorya..LOL