The Roman Catholic Church~ Questions

[noy]

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samot ka na, ang imong gitubag sa kong reply kay wa jud sa issue. mao2x ra jud mo diri, dili mu angkon sa sayop nga binuhatan sa inyong simbahan, og kristiyano ka man gani. inyo pang himoan ug rason para madepensahan bisag kita na sa inyong mga mata. apan inyo manang "beliefs", hala padayun. wala may rehilyon nga perpekto apan kun adunay sayop dapat angkonun ug dawaton, dili unta ta pa buta2x.

mao bitaw nga i prove nga dunay sayop in an absolute manner..otherwise..di ta ka conclude nga sayop jud diay..so way angay angkonon? LOL kuha na nimu bro?

if you say that there's something wrong with the Church providing palaces for Archbishops not as their personal property but as something that can be compared with the government's malacanang for the president..
now, kung sayop na..therefore does it follow nga sayop pud nang tagaan ang presidente sa honor to live in the malacanang palace as this country's head? kay mao nay reason nganu ang mga bishop maoy gipa puyo sa palace..sila ang head sa diocese.

uu dili sa bishop ang property but sa Church ug sa tanang mga parokyano nga apil ana nga diocese..
same thing with the president, dili iyaha ang malacanang palace but sa Philippine Government and the People of this republic..

now, tell me...asa dapit taka wa gitubag sa imung accusation?
ug palighug ko ug hakyad sa imung proof asa dapit ang sayop sa fact nga nagpuyo ang mga bishop sa palasyo that their diocese provided for them?

you're merely stating your opinion and opinions do not count as proof.
so usa ka mag sulti2x nga dunay sayop siguradoa nga naa kay ikapakita nga ebidensya in absolute terms kanang dili malalis nga proof for your accusation. gets bro? most of all...this thread is not for you and those people like you to express your hatred towards our Church..not only that you guys are OT, most of time you are all being disrespectful.
just because dili mu mu agree sa amung mga tinuhoan or how we see things should fit.
it doesn't give you the license to be a Dick towards us or to people who doesn't share with your sentiments and point of views. tao pa man kaha gihapun inyong tan.aw namu?mura man mo ug mga communista..LOL

anyways, unless maka provide ka ug absolute proof nga dunay sayop anang providan ang mga bishop sa Church ug palace para puy.an then there's nothing more to talk about and we can dismiss this silly conversation with you not being able to prove your claims.

[gilbert.repunte]

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Kataaas sa akong nabasa oy
Unsa nman ni
Lagmit ka biyaan sa imong audience ani

[noy]

We are not blind followers nor use "faith" in science, We base our ideas on logical and scientific analysis, One does not need to be a scientist to figure out that the bible is a book of fictional nonsense written mostly by uneducated barbarians 2000 years ago.

we? wrong pronoun brad..those who conducted the actual reasearch and postulated the theory that God is inexistent or the bible is fictional siguro..pero ikaw? groupie ra ka ato nila oi..wa kay labut sa "we" ..Lol

and kanang logical analysis and critical thinking, dili na absolute.. so kung dili absolute, meaning claim ra na ug kung claim ra na then we can reduce those two factors as mere opinions..now opinion is not a proof in itself. therefore, pataka napud kag yaw2x brader..

ayawg apila ang Science sa imung hinaggaw ha kay ang Science wa nay labut ug di ka mutuo...
igo ra na naghatag sa info..ikaw ang nagconclude whatever point of view you hold..
ug ikaw pud ang nagpili kung unsa nga mga theory nga ningbutho after the results of the study have been laid over imung paboran..

anyways, OT na pud ka brader, wa pa jud kay proof sa imung mga claims..so kung di ka mag ask ug question, aw read mode lang usa ka ha kay mahulog ra kag joke diri .. LOL

[Forster]

we? wrong pronoun brad..those who conducted the actual reasearch and postulated the theory that God is inexistent or the bible is fictional siguro..pero ikaw? groupie ra ka ato nila oi..wa kay labut sa "we" ..Lol

and kanang logical analysis and critical thinking, dili na absolute.. so kung dili absolute, meaning claim ra na ug kung claim ra na then we can reduce those two factors as mere opinions..now opinion is not a proof in itself. therefore, pataka napud kag yaw2x brader..

ayawg apila ang Science sa imung hinaggaw ha kay ang Science wa nay labut ug di ka mutuo...
igo ra na naghatag sa info..ikaw ang nagconclude whatever point of view you hold..
ug ikaw pud ang nagpili kung unsa nga mga theory nga ningbutho after the results of the study have been laid over imung paboran..

anyways, OT na pud ka brader, wa pa jud kay proof sa imung mga claims..so kung di ka mag ask ug question, aw read mode lang usa ka ha kay mahulog ra kag joke diri .. LOL

"we" because I base my belief in a logical, sane and scientific way and their explanation is 1000000000000000x more believable than your belief on the fairy tales of the bible.

Cge mangutana ko nimo, can you explain step by step kung gi unsa pag "himo" (kuno) sa inyung "ginoo" (kuno") ang universe, earth and humans. WITHOUT using SCIENCE ha, Don't hijack science with your religion.

[noy]

"we" because I base my belief in a logical, sane and scientific way and their explanation is 1000000000000000x more believable than your belief on the fairy tales of the bible.

Cge mangutana ko nimo, can you explain step by step kung gi unsa pag "himo" (kuno) sa inyung "ginoo" (kuno") ang universe, earth and humans. WITHOUT using SCIENCE ha, Don't hijack science with your religion.

hahaha! kanus.a diay ko nag claim that i know everything there is about creation?
unsaon nako pag explain step by step nga di man ako ang naghimu? LOL

ang amung claim is naay Ginoo who created the universe, apart from personal experiences and our Faith..
naa pud tay makita sa Science that would suggest God's existence..

ikaw, absolute nang imohang claim? dili man pud..so wa kay katungod nga muingon nga sakto imo ug sayop ang uban...
wa miy labut ug mao nay naabut sa imung pagsabut aning mga butanga just as long as you don't disrespect our views..
padayun sa imung pagtuo..

nganu di man ko pwede mu qoute ug Science nga dili man na exclusive ang Science?
that's why we see Atheists and Theists alike qouting scientific accounts to support their claims and arguments.

hijacking science? hahaha..joker jud ka brader..ang issue diri is that you are assuming ownership of Science..as if Science exclusively belongs with Atheism and as if Science explicity refutes God's existence or claims God's inexistence.
Science just present results..analysis of those results would vary, depende sa pagsabut sa tao nga nag analyze..mao ra na..
neither theism or atheism owns Science..

mao lagi, you base your BELIEF.tiaw mu na? belief ra man pud diay..LOL
laktud pagkasulti..you are placing your Faith to those people who initiated the thought of God's inexistence..
so asa man ang we diha?
kanang we para na sa mga tao who ACTUALLY CONDUCTED the research..
sakit man dawaton pero ikaw groupie ra jud ka brader..

you only believe what you find logical and sane..but that doesn't necessarily mean that what you believe is LOGICAL and SANE in absolute terms..like i said earlier...it all boils down to perspectives, personal opinion on the subject..
no more, no less.. and again..opinion is not proof in itself.

you want proof that God exists apart from scientific ones?
try refuting my experiences by proving that each one of them are not divine inspired.

remember psychological healing?
in what sense does Psychological healing absolutely prove that God does not exist? and that there was no God helping a person to overcome his/her addictions..and finally, how will you prove that a person's transformation was not divine inspired?

[slabdans]

naa man siguro sakit ning bataa...sige naman lang ni ilis username

[Forster]

Kapoya na ani oi....Dali raman kaayo unta akong pangutana, taas lagi kaayog reply pero way unod. Wala jud gi tubag akong pangutana.

Sabagay, makasabot man sad ko aning bataa ni kung dili niya diretsohon ug tubag akong pangutana, kay mu samot na mahimong kataw.anan ang iyang relihiyon, mao likay likay ang peg sa oplok.

[slabdans]

[noy]

Kapoya na ani oi....Dali raman kaayo unta akong pangutana, taas lagi kaayog reply pero way unod. Wala jud gi tubag akong pangutana.

Sabagay, makasabot man sad ko aning bataa ni kung dili niya diretsohon ug tubag akong pangutana, kay mu samot na mahimong kataw.anan ang iyang relihiyon, mao likay likay ang peg sa oplok.

hahaha! likay likay? panamin brader! LOL
unsay wa gitubag? peke ni?
ang tubag sa imung pangutana kay:
wala ko ning ingun nga kahibaw ko every single detail in creation.
so nganu lagi patubagon ko nimu ug something nga wala nako gi claim? naunsa naman tawn ka brader? hahaha

kung Yes/No ra diay imung Gusto..sus! kadali ra..NO i can't, can you? dili pud diba? so...
what's your point? even ang Science brader, di kahatag ug details regarding the specifics of the universe' origin

di pagamiton ug Science? tag iya ka sa Science?
besides, even ang Science is still limited so therefore, dili Science ang gamiton to conclude whether the Creator does or does not exist.

so asa naman imung refutation sa personal experience as one of the proofs for God's existence?

[gilbert.repunte]

Kutaw sad akoa utok ani inyo debate dah