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  1. #8801

    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    brader @R.Forster let me refresh you with your claims ..hangtud karun..way proof gihapun.. Lol

    *Non-Christian accounts on the Historicity of Jesus such as the writings of Josephus and Tacitus have been forged.
    *Jesus was an invention of the Romans as a fictional divine figure to gain control of the population..(bisag wa niy pulos..pangayoan gihapun ta ka ug proof)..
    *The Apostles created a fictional Image of Jesus as their messiah.(utro pud nga way pulos..pero sige..proof gihapun)
    *Those scholars of antiquity who agreed that Jesus existed we're all Christians hence their conclusion are tainted by their religious orientation.
    (this time you'll need to provide the statitics showing the actual population and religious views of those who conducted the study)

    New Entry/ies( and counting...hehehe)

    *Proof that Mendel is an Idiot or anyone who believes in God is.
    Kapila na nako na gi explain sa imuha, dili lang mu register sa imung thick head kay advance ra kaayo akoang IQ para sa imuha.

  2. #8802
    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    untwa? ikaw muy nag ingun nga damgo ra na si Jesus oi..dili ako...LOL
    so...ikaw prove diha..likay napud...you made my day brader...hahahahahaha!

    imung tubag kay conspiracy theories..di na proof oi! LOL likay part 2..
    Kanang jesus ray conspiracy, hangtud karon wala gihapon mapakita na irrefutable evidence ang mga ugok na kristiyano pariha nimo na naay jesus christ na nag exist sa una, The existence of a jesus christ still remains a conspiracy

    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    ang Ginoo fairy tale? opinion lagi na nimu..kung mu insist ka nga Fact nang wala ning exist ang Ginoo, i prove dayun!
    diha maka ingun ta nga absolutely delusional ang mga tao nga mutuo ug Ginoo.. asa man ang proof? part 3 na imung likay brad...hapit na ma world record.. Lol

    back to topic nalang ta. .puro ra man diay ka yawyaw brader...tsk tsk tsk..hahaha

    Questions for RCC ta guys.
    As usual mu dagan dayon ang mga kristiyano sa classic argument na "YOU prove that OUR god is not real"

    Amaw ka? E simplify nako ug maayo for the benefit of that little brain of yours ha

    Naay usa ka tao na nag claim na naa siyay invisible friend, unya mu ingon ka na dili na tinuod iyahang invisible friend, Dili ako ang kailangan na mag prove na tinuod ang iyahang invisible friend but kadtong tao na nag claim na naa siyay invisible friend, But since imposible man jud na ma prove niya na tinuod iyahang invisible friend my statement remains a fact that his invisible friend does not exist.

  3. #8803
    Quote Originally Posted by battouter View Post
    this isn't a belief but a fact... The dioceses which is under the authority of the roman catholic church owns the estates. you can't even argue correctly.

    you can continue to divert or mislead the issue. panghambog pa sa rason nimo og palusot nimo nga buslot.
    In your Case - Since dili ikaw nag Gather sa evidence, Dili ikaw nag Create sa Case, Dili ikaw nag Research didto - Ug Igo raka ni kopya unsay imung nabasa, igo raka nituoo sa FINDINGS sa ubang TAWO nga bisag ikaw walay nabuhat na Verification ASIDE from Agreeing What You READ - is MUCH stronger FAITH. So basically in your point of view you BELIEVED and you have FAITH to the People who Did the Research...

    its not Diversion, I am just Showing WHAT is The TRUTH of the Basis of your so-called Belief. Your So called FACTS is Not from YOU, Its Borrowed and it is FAITH, Blind FAITH on some extent.

  4. #8804
    Quote Originally Posted by R.Forster View Post
    Kapila na nako na gi explain sa imuha, dili lang mu register sa imung thick head kay advance ra kaayo akoang IQ para sa imuha.
    OT

    LOL, sakita sa akong tiyan katawa ai Oi...haha

    IQ man nuon gihisgutan...

    Kanang ang Basis sa Belief gikan ra TANAN sa Internet, kanang Basa nya KOPYA ray buhaton DILI na kinahanglan ug Lower or Higher IQ, maka IQ kag 5 OK na kaayu na... hehe

    Unsaon gud tawn nimu pagka High ug IQ nga Bisag MOTA wa man kay na Contribute sa Science nga maoy BASIS sa imung Belief. Cge ra man gani kag gamit ug According to, Based On, etc etc nya High IQ na nuon ka..haha

    tawn sad..

  5. #8805
    Quote Originally Posted by R.Forster View Post
    Kapila na nako na gi explain sa imuha, dili lang mu register sa imung thick head kay advance ra kaayo akoang IQ para sa imuha.
    IQ? say labut anang IQ dong..present ra ug FACTS..mao ra na...you mean taas kag IQ kay maayo ka mulihay ug istorya para di ka masakpan nga wa kay tubag2x? hahahaha..aw kung maohon mas taas diay mig IQ nimu..sakpan man namu imung tactics..nyahahaha!

    explain? nga imung basehan kay puro ra conspiracy theories ug personal perception? asa may proof ana? nangita kos imung giingun nga taas nga IQ bah..murag opinion ra sad na..wa puy proof..LOL

    puyo brad..dawata nalang ang Truth that you ain't got what it takes to be in these type of discussions..
    bastos pa kaayo ka ug baba..OT pa jud..wa jud bro...maypag mag stand up comedian nalang ka..kay kataw.anan kaayo imung gipang istorya ngari...

  6. #8806
    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    puyo brad..dawata nalang ang Truth that you ain't got what it takes to be in these type of discussions..
    bastos pa kaayo ka ug baba..OT pa jud..wa jud bro...maypag mag stand up comedian nalang ka..kay kataw.anan kaayo imung gipang istorya ngari...
    OT:
    kataw anan man gani bisag mag serious na - samot nag mag comedy nah na, daghan jud manan aw

  7. #8807
    Quote Originally Posted by R.Forster View Post
    Kanang jesus ray conspiracy, hangtud karon wala gihapon mapakita na irrefutable evidence ang mga ugok na kristiyano pariha nimo na naay jesus christ na nag exist sa una, The existence of a jesus christ still remains a conspiracy
    way kwenta tong kang Josephus and Tacitus nga accounts on Jesus?
    sige iprove daw nga forged and tampered to..para ma dismiss to nato sila as proof..
    denial ka brad oi..you should consult a shrink.. Lol

    Quote Originally Posted by R.Forster View Post
    As usual mu dagan dayon ang mga kristiyano sa classic argument na "YOU prove that OUR god is not real"

    Amaw ka? E simplify nako ug maayo for the benefit of that little brain of yours ha

    Naay usa ka tao na nag claim na naa siyay invisible friend, unya mu ingon ka na dili na tinuod iyahang invisible friend, Dili ako ang kailangan na mag prove na tinuod ang iyahang invisible friend but kadtong tao na nag claim na naa siyay invisible friend, But since imposible man jud na ma prove niya na tinuod iyahang invisible friend my statement remains a fact that his invisible friend does not exist.
    ah..which reminds me of our discussion in the other thread..nga again wa napud nimu gitubag..

    when a person claims that His God is real..dili ang iyang claim mauy imung i refute..kung dili ang iyang reason for his claim..therefore kanang imung example kay incomplete na..

    so let me present my case to you..tubag ug tarong this time kung tinuod jud kang naay nahibaw.an di kay puro ra ka yawyaw..

    naay tao muingon nga naay Ginoo
    of course mu dispute ka kay wala man ka kakita ug Ginoo or dili ka mutuo ug Ginoo..

    mu insist tong tao nga tinuod jud..
    so mangayo ka ug proof

    ang iyang proof kay through his experience..then mu share siya sa iyang experience..for example, muingon siya adik siya sa una..na rehab na ug tanan-tanan nalang..wa jud mausab..pero ning apil ug religion natarong..
    so ming conclude ang tao nga naa juy Ginoo diay..

    muingon ka di na enough kay there are tons of other possible reasons that would explain his experiences and point of view...
    one of which kay psychological ra to tanan...perhaps you would explain that the idea of a helping God helped him overcome his addictions..but it doesn't necessarily mean that God exists..kay iyaha ra jung kaugalingon ang ning tabang niya or ni sink in na finally ang mga giistorya sa mga shrink niya..so mao natarong siya..hehehe

    so muingon ang tao..
    True, pero kung Ginoo ka..kaya nimu buhaton tanan..
    pwede ra ka magbuhat ug milagro nga wa juy maka explain ug magpabiling kahibulongan ang tanang nahitabo
    or magbuhat ka ug milagro sa natural nga paagi..
    i believe God chose to heal me in the natural process..therefore mao naay psychological traces ang akong healing..
    but i believe the whole process was divine inspired...

    ang pangutana bai kay in what sense does Psychological healing absolutely prove that God does not exist? and that there was no God helping him to overcome his addictions..and finally, how will you prove that his transformation was not divine inspired?

    the last time we talked about this, imung answer kay PSYCHOLOGICAL ra to tanan...hahahaha!
    tan.awa ra ka hanggaw...

    sa binisaya pa..gi unsa pag prove sa psychological healing nga walay Ginoo ug dili ang Ginoo ang nagtugot nga maayo ang tao through psychological healing..
    dayun ang tubag kay psychological ra? hahahahaha..

    now is your chance to redeem yourself brader..
    Last edited by noy; 08-07-2014 at 12:15 PM.

  8. #8808
    Quote Originally Posted by R.Forster View Post
    Dili ko pariha nimo oi, na mu tuo dayon kung unsay ingnon sa mga pari kung mu ingon ang pari na naay flying dragon mu tuo sad dayon ka, kung mu ingon ang pari ambak ug tulay para sa ginoo mu tuman dayun ka hahaha

    Ako dili ko mu agree sa opinion sa ubang mga scientist, ginagamit nako akong sariling utok kung tinuod ba ni o dili, sayon ra man na ba, common sense ra na. murag wala kay ing.ana hahaha
    kinsa may gaingon nimo nga mo tuo kog flying dragon? ang akong gituohan ang iyang mga sugo dili ang dragon.

    common sense ra di ie na? unsa may tawag ana? faith? belief? pag sure ui, ikaw ra ang kusog mo ingon ug facts evidence unya common sense ra di ie ang ending pagka bright

  9. #8809
    lingawa nako aning Forster oi, maka ingon ta nga gituyo ni sa ginoo nga ni exist ning tawhana para kuhaan og lesson...

    lahos nalang ko pagka OT: maka remember ko sauna sa among silingan nga bata, walay amahan kay ang inahan angkan, nag gamit og illegal drugs, unya nag work sa bar or murag dancer ba to..unya kaning bataa dili jud kaayo pagawson or paduwaon, pero once maka gawas mura jung baboy ihas nga magdagan dagan, pwerte ka kiat, manghapak lang og kalit, unya mag yawyaw sa iyang self unya mamalikas ni bisan kinsa nga tao, unya bastos pajud kaayo og baba...murag resulta jud sa iyang family background.

    kalooy pud, ang age atong bataa mga 9 or 10 way back 1985, asa na kaha to siya karon? wakoy nakitang kalainan aning usa ka tao diri og iyang mga clones...bisan unsaon og tisod sa mga mods, mo gara hinoon..

  10. #8810
    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    But dili man tanan na naay tay patron sa cebu right ?

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