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  2. #8762
    atheists talk about God - not because God exists - but because theists exist. We do it for you and because we have to live with you.

    -darkmatter2525

  3. #8763
    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    LOL, mura sad kag IKAW nag HIMU sa Evidence dah, IGO RAKA NIBASA SA INTERNET NYA NIKOPYA
    Ayaw paka arun ingnun dha, kay bisag MOTA wa kay Na contribute sa Science to sa Medium nga imung KINOPYA..hehe

    Nag gamit ug Science, Nag gamit man kaha ug Critical Thinking nya DILI ka Determine? Usa ray Explanation ana - Ang Science is LIMITED. Mao di Anhay isalig sa Science tanan kay It will Correct itself from time to time...

    Panamin nya isulti nang first 4 words sa imung Post sa ibabaw kay mao nay sakto nga sitwasyon. hehe
    Dili jud na madetermine nang EXACT date sa pag imbento sa inyong bibile tanga and I mean the month/day/year because there's no way to determine it tanga, but all sources conclude that your fictional fairytale bible was written not more than 2000 years ago kay walay ebidensiya nang mga naka sulat sa old testament.

    For Example asa naman ang mga recorded writings from the Egyptians na naay "MOSES" that lead kuno the people of "god" out from egypt? Egyptians are excellent in recording history and important events in their kingdom nganung wala man jud maski isa? It means the "MOSES" story didn't actually happened and was just a myth.

    Daghan kaayog physical/irrefutable evidence ang science about sa history sa earth and the evolution of the different species, dugay na nang determine sa science that modern humans came from apes millions of years ago.

    Imoha? Unsay may gina basehan nimo? Bible? ilabay na nang bible ninyo wala nay pulos, wala nay kredibilidad nang fictional bible ninyo, puros ra na mga fairytale na inimbento sa mga taong uneducated na tanga sa unang panahon, mga taong dali ra ma uto/ignorante ra pareha nimo ang mag pa uto anang bible ninyo na walay pulos.

  4. #8764
    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    relax lang ta diri guys ha..hehe if follow up questions are necessary, please keep it in a Q and A manner as the thread suggests..sige na, igo na nang istorya bahin sa science,critical thinking ug uban pa..ask a question about the Catholic teachings and doctrines and someone will answer.. pwede ra bisan kinsa motubag bahalag dili RC basta ang tubag kay within sa Catholic perspective kay mao nay punto ani nga thread. thanks
    Naa koy question, naga tuo ka ug talking snake?

  5. #8765
    Quote Originally Posted by battouter View Post
    different views is different than what is an obvious squandering of church money where it could have been used somewhere to help people who really need it more than to keep archbishops "comfortable". that reasoning is laughable. you do not have to be a christian to be able to see that. if you do not see the error in that then that is what you call blind faith. defend at all cost, bro. ayaw angkona ug ayaw dawata ang sayop na mga binuhatan sa inyong simbahan. LOL.
    obvious squandering of church money? on who's perspective should we use as a basis for judgment? yours?LOL
    what if you don't see it as such? blind faith na pud ning amoa..LOL
    so insakto jud dapat imoha ang anyone else who does not share with your perspective is utterly wrong? hahahaha
    amung paninduton ang simbahan for instance because we believe that it is sacred and holy..
    pero sa mga di mutuo ana..wa nay pulos para nila..

    or like people who believed in fengshui would spend so much to have thier home checked for a fengshui expert..ako? di man ko mutuo ana..so di ko muspend ug kwarta para ana..
    but it's a different story kung ako nang sawayon nang mga insik nga magpa fengshui..

    now how do we reconcile these two different perspectives..
    kung tao ka with a good conscience..we don't becasue we simply can't..best thing to do is to respect the diversities. gipakita na nimu diri?
    imu na giingnan imung family, friends and loved ones about their blind faith? hehehe


    kanang mga Archbishop bro, mao nay overseer sa whole diocese, kung sa nasod pa..mura na ug presidente..so naturally, we give them higher regard than any priest or any person who took holy orders within the diocese. prehas sa presidente, he gets the highest regard politically ..mao bitaw siya muy naa sa malacanang ug dili ang mga senador, congressmen not even the vice president..ug mao pud nay rason ngano ang pope maoy naa sa Rome and not any other bishop because siya ang main overseer of the entire Roman Catholic Church.

    itabang nalang unta sa mga pobre ang kwarta nga gipanindut sa simbahan ug sa mga archbishop's palace?
    so kay lisud man ang pinas, ato nalang nang ibaligya ang malacanang kay ihatag nato sa pobre? LOL

    with you speaking so lowly about church charity works, it just points out to your ignorance concerning these matters..
    wa ka kadungog ani nga mga orphanages and homes?

    ASILO DELA MILAGROSA
    BENEFICIENCIA DELA SAGRADA FAMILIA
    CEBU BOYSTOWN
    DON BOSCO BOYS’ HOME
    SOS CHILDREN’S HOME
    SANDIGANAN SA PAG-AMPO SA KABATAAN
    CEBU HOPE CENTER
    EVERSLY CHILD SANITARIUM
    ST. JOSEPH HOUSE

    each orphan house, does not only house and feed homeless kids, apil na ang scholastic ug mga livelihood programs para sa ilang ugma..
    home for the aged ug orphange pa lang na..

    wa pay labut ang ubang charity works like medical and dental missions within the entire diocese of cebu, cebu pa lang na..wa pay labut ang ubang diocese..

    the church do charities because the church believes that it is the right thing to do pero its different when you let the church assume the responsibilities of the state..
    in the first place..the people does not pay their taxes to the Church..
    even the parishioners are not required to give a certain amount to support the church's charity programs..maski piso, singko or even wala..ayos ra..

    so kung gusto ka mangisug kay daghang purdoy sa pinas unya nindut ang puy.anan sa mga archbishop then you're barking at the wrong tree bro
    adto didto sa gobyerno istorya kay automatic ka gikuhaan ug tax sa imung sweldo or sa imung negosyo..purdoy gihapun ta pero nindut na kaayo ug wheels ang ubang mga politiko LOL
    diha, you have every single right..pero sa church? hahaha...naa kay gibilin bro para maningil? LOL
    kung ingun ana imung point of view bro, tabla ra ug ning ingun ka nilang henry sy..or kinsa pa nang mga multi billinaire diri sa pinas, nga ibaligya na inyong balay kay daghang pobre sa pinas..sakto diay na? LOL

    this is not me saying that corruption is not present within church walls..mao bitaw naay mga church leaders, priests nga na excommunicate or even imprisoned for different kinds of abuses of their authority..
    but it's a different story when we associate everything in church properties and structures with corruption.

    your argument is based on personal biases and ill feelings towards the church..
    you call that fair judgment? woop woop! Lol

  6. #8766
    ohh mga gahi nga na tawo ang nag suwat ani, pero wala gihapon ni motubag sa imong gusto

    Egyptian history and the biblical record: a perfect match? - creation.com


    off topic gihapon ni pastilan

  7. #8767
    Lisod jud ning topic about sa Religion...but 1 word to unite as all...RESPECT

    OT: mosubscribe ra bitaw ko kay malingaw ko ug basa2x

  8. #8768
    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    ohh mga gahi nga na tawo ang nag suwat ani, pero wala gihapon ni motubag sa imong gusto

    Egyptian history and the biblical record: a perfect match? - creation.com


    off topic gihapon ni pastilan
    About the website:

    About Us - creation.com

    1.The scientific aspects of creation are important, but are secondary in importance to the proclamation of the Gospel of Jesus Christ as Sovereign, Creator, Redeemer and Judge.

    2.The doctrines of Creator and Creation cannot ultimately be divorced from the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
    lol

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    Gi damay pa ninyo ang mga Ancient Egyptians sa mga fairytale ninyo, mga ugok.

  9. #8769
    Quote Originally Posted by battouter View Post
    LOL... so deny ta? the church ADMITS they own these lavish properties. sio... usa ka mag yaw2x susiha sa una para di nimo pakauwawan imo kaugalingon. maypa lagi ang santo papa kay dili langas dili preha aning mga arsobispo nga gakiat lang ang agi.

    big pimpin' woop! woop!
    OT

    Where on my statement - "I do not defend the News because i am not an RC" - You Did Not Comprehend?

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    Quote Originally Posted by heartthr0b View Post
    atheists talk about God - not because God exists - but because theists exist. We do it for you and because we have to live with you.

    -darkmatter2525
    OT

    Nindot unta paminawun - PERO KINOPYA ra diay sa WEB... I doubt kasabot ka ana.. haha

  10. #8770
    Quote Originally Posted by R.Forster View Post
    Dili jud na madetermine nang EXACT date sa pag imbento sa inyong bibile tanga and I mean the month/day/year because there's no way to determine it tanga, but all sources conclude that your fictional fairytale bible was written not more than 2000 years ago kay walay ebidensiya nang mga naka sulat sa old testament.
    Gamit nsad ug word nga ABOUT ang Kusog mangopya sa INTERNET.

    Naa nay Physical Bible nga Pwedi mag study pwedi mag Experiment - Pero DILI gihapon ka Determine? Abi nko maka explain ang Science Di man diay gihapon maka Determine sa EXACT...

    So isa ray Explanation ana - LIMITED imung Medium gigamit ug di kasaligan... hehe

    Nya ikaw kay nagsalig rag Pangopya unsay naa sa INternet - aws Mag cge rakag Gamit ug word nga ABOUT, ACCORDING TO, BASED ON, etc etc

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