Why Philippines has SLooOOW internet speed.

[four23]

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Again fascist. You're the only person in this thread who is content with the way ISPs are handling things. It's either you're making money at the expense of lousy service which violates free market ideals or maybe you just lost hope.

There's a big elephant out there called the Oligarchs, maybe you belong to that class.

aw, nag enjoy man diay ka ug paspas nga internet diha, lucky you.

for us here sa pinas, we have only two real world choices. to have slow internet or no internet. fascist or anarchist or whatever chist you have in your vocabulary, we have only those two.

you are obviously an audience to our situation here.

kinsa man bugoa nga fascist ang dili ganahan ug paspas ug reliable internet service? as for me, i need the connection, and all i have is globe or smart or pldt.

the filipinos who chose to remain here in the philippines do not enjoy the luxury you have in first world countries. we have our reasons why we are here... obviously, you have yours.

parehas ra na sa musakay ug jip... kung di ka ganahan, aw paglakaw.

the philippines has slow internet... mag unsa man mi ana?

btw... nowhere did i say that i was contented with the service.. you are putting words in my mouth.. that is a fascist!

-Passport

[Zakary]

slow gyud bitaw compared to other countries basin ang Burma mas kusog pa og net speed sa pilipinas

[M.A.D.]

pili daw beh..

slow internet or no internet?

Read your post #115 . Taking what you said as it is you are explicitly saying choose slow internet or no internet at all which is akin to having no choice for better service. That's how fascism operates, like some sort of dictatorship. And no, I am in the Philippines experiencing lousy and pricy internet also.

aw, nag enjoy man diay ka ug paspas nga internet diha, lucky you.

for us here sa pinas, we have only two real world choices. to have slow internet or no internet. fascist or anarchist or whatever chist you have in your vocabulary, we have only those two.

you are obviously an audience to our situation here.

kinsa man bugoa nga fascist ang dili ganahan ug paspas ug reliable internet service? as for me, i need the connection, and all i have is globe or smart or pldt.

the filipinos who chose to remain here in the philippines do not enjoy the luxury you have in first world countries. we have our reasons why we are here... obviously, you have yours.

parehas ra na sa musakay ug jip... kung di ka ganahan, aw paglakaw.

the philippines has slow internet... mag unsa man mi ana?

btw... nowhere did i say that i was contented with the service.. you are putting words in my mouth.. that is a fascist!

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u may need to check your hearing, in case everyone who does not agree with your thinking sounds fascist.

ayaw pa connect ug internet if di ka ganahan... as simple as that!

Again, your saying if you don't want internet then you might as well not use it? wait that's suppose to mean if you don't like slow internet then don't get connected? anyway enough with you.

[spectrespook]

even though pa kusgon ang net speed, but with current situation sa mga facilities like copper cables or line wires..not all is capable of handling higher speeds dre sa ato intawn ui.. what do you think are the causes of intermittent connection or slower speed kay sa imong gibayaran its because most dsl lines are limited lang sa speed nga makaya due to example considered long loop (ang source sa imong line is layo) also bati ang linya tungod sa naagian og daghan kawat, mao daghan na splicing maka cause nana og losses og daghan pang mga causes nga mao limited ra jud ang speed nga makuha.

[firestarter]

Slow gyud kay wala may klaro nga competition diri.. Ang duha ka dagko nga provider ambot wala ba kaha ni nag sabot nga ingon ani ra ang i offer.. ahayyzz..

[Burn Out]

you mean majority sa metro city area hinay gihapon..

[timoyans]

Pero nganu ang Igat nga si kris aquino ingon nga sa ilang balay 40mbps man guro to? hmmmmm?

[i.draw.fast]

slow diay ang internet sa philippines?

pldt plan 999 myDSL pero fiber line ang gigamit sa installation:

speed test:

[M.A.D.]

Download and install this and go to Utilities>totals log and set that log to hourly. This tool is much more convenient and consistent. See how much it can vary in a week.

Remember there are times when there are bursts of speed as well as times of extreme lag.

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slow diay ang internet sa philippines?

pldt plan 999 myDSL pero fiber line ang gigamit sa installation:

speed test:

[voldemort]

How PLDT Deliberately Keeps Local Internet Traffic Slow and More Expensive In Philippines

The international standard for Internet Service Providers (ISP) requires countries to have their own IX (Internet Exchange) point to allow faster exchange of local traffic from other local ISP customers. This is required so the traffic for that country can be shared freely from one local ISP to another with less hops, rather than having it jumped from other countries like U.S, Europe, Australia, Hong Kong, etc. resulting to low latency and broken connection. Using this system also costs less because ISPs using IX aren't required to pay anything unlike if data is passed from another third-party network.

Aside from using a unified IX, ISPs are also expected to pay for a backbone service from selected providers for outgoing traffic. In Southeast Asia, PACNET is the one in charge. Backbones are important because it let ISPs connect to mainstream internet, i.e: the world’s internet. In return, ISPs are required to pay PACNET for its service.

Below you will see how PLDT deliberately refuses to use an IX or at least, pay for a real backbone company to properly route all its data.

First Problem: PLDT Doesn’t Want To Share Its Traffic Through Peers Via Unified IX

Here in PH, we have one called Philippine Open Internet Exchange (PHOpenIX) used by all ISPs here like Infocom, Evoserve, Pacific Internet including Globe (Sky & Bayan) with the exception of PLDT (Smart) -- and this is where all the problem roots out.

Since PLDT has enough muscle in this country to dictate what it wants and disobey common standards of data routing, it chooses a different approach that will only benefit itself and not other peers like Globe.

Instead of routing data to our country's own IX, PLDT connects to Hong Kong Internet eXchange (HKIX) through its private VIX (Vitro Internet Exchange). This is a very shady practice because the data, that should originate and terminate here in Philippines, is instead, routed outside in Hong Kong just to return back to Philippines.

So instead of keeping the traffic inside Philippines, so it can be routed faster directly, PLDT deliberately chooses to route it outside our country hampering its peers like Globe to do do traffic exchange with PLDT DSL customers.

This is one of the main reasons why Globe / Sky / Bayan users connecting to GARENA has "high ping" when joining rooms. This is also the reason why overall traffic exchange, local in particular, is very slow in this country regardless how much Globe improves its network facilities.

Unfortunately, the NTC (Philippines's version of FCC) has no power to rectify the situation which is very obvious because PLDT is the country's largest telco; a company that holds more than 40% of Meralco via MPI and Beacon Electric Asset; a conglomerate that almost single-handedly owns most major newspapers in PH like Inquirer, Philstar, Interaksyon, MediaQuest, etc. Heck, it's too big, it even holds the highest chunk of power in the Philippine Stock Exchange itself. Bring this elephant down and the whole economy of PH will be ****ed up.

Second Problem: PLDT Thinks It’s The Backbone

Since PLDT believes it’s the only reason why this country is able to communicate, it has enough muscle to be the country’s own ‘fake’ backbone; using its antiquated data-routing technique instead of letting real backbone providers like PACNET do all the work, a business that thrives on providing data and connectivity solutions to major Telcos in South East Asia.

Most ISPs pay for a backbone service simply because it solves all the complexities of data traffic management from one country to the next; it's faster and provides better overall bandwith for customers. As an example, PACNET spends almost a billion dollar constructing a fiber-optic submarine network that expands more than 40,000 kilometers reaching key locations in South East Asia including China with speeds ranging from 17 Terabits up to 31 Terabits (link) -- something any telcos like PLDT won't be able to afford. This kind of technology is the reason why ISPs in South East Asia are thriving with average speed of at least 10mpbs+ (S.K at 13.3mbps, Singapore at 17mbps, Hong Kong at 65 mbps). Unfortunately, PLDT doesn't want to directly pay for PACNET's blazing speed network, it instead relies to its obsolete DFON network. The result? Average internet speed for this country lies at 3mbps even worse than India or Indonesia. Take note that PLDT's network is also more expensive since it's required to build its own fiber-optic network since it's now acting as the company's backbone rather than simply 'renting' from real internet backbone providers. On this report, it shows PLDT spent 2.5 billion PHP for upgrading its Domestic Fiber Network (DFON) for that year alone. Imagine all the money saved if the company only chooses to 'rent' a real backbone service provider.

I am not sure what’s the current deal between PLDT and PACNET, but from the looks of it, ISPs here in PH are actually paying PLDT because it acts as the country’s backbone. This also explains the reason why pinoys are paying more for slow internet connection (because PLDT is spending billions of pesos for its DFON) while U.S and other countries in Europe pay less with better internet speeds because ISPs there simply rent for a backbone network, NOT build one.

Any Fix?

Enough of the rambling, let’s see if this problem is fixable. Fortunately, the answer is ‘Yes’. On this report: Globe urges PLDT to allow exchange of traffic among ISPs | Business, News, The Philippine Star | philstar.com Globe is aware of the issue and has asked PLDT to share its traffic by opening its network to our country’s IX. Unfortunately, PLDT doesn’t give a shit and is more concerned on giving low-IQ statements.

Here’s what PLDT’s spokesperson has to say about the issue:

South Korean Internet users largely access content written in the South Korean language as well as for internet users in other major Asian markets like China, Japan, Thailand and Vietnam.

That is principally why Internet traffic in these countries are largely domestic. In the case of the Philippines, we are fluent in English and are thus oriented towards overseas Internet content,” he said.

As a result, he explained that up to 90 percent of Internet traffic in the Philippines is content sourced from overseas particularly the US. “Because of that, in the case of the Philippines, domestic peering will not address complaints of slow Internet speed,” he clarified.

Based from his logic: South Korea, China, Japan, Thailand and Vietnam == [Not good] in english, access non-english content most of the time; therefore, there’s a need for their ISPs to do peer exchange via unified IX.

Philippines == Good in English, access 90% english content; therefore, no need for peer exchange because pinoy customers get content outside this country, anyway.

Based from his reasoning, if a country doesn’t access english content, there’s a reason for peer-sharing. Unfortunately, he didn’t mention one important part, that is, most of if not all countries share traffic through their local ISPs regardless of what language or content their customers are accessing. This dude is adding a thick pile of horse shit, thinking it will work to all Filipinos who don’t understand basic networking.

Since when does accessing “english content” be the main reason why ISPs don’t need to exchange traffic with their peers? This mouth breather is deviating from the real problem, that is, their company is too selfish and scared that if they do peer-sharing with Globe, the Ayala-led telco will be able to provide better service than them. It’s that simple.

TLR: The main problem why local traffic-exchange in Philippines is on a glacial speed when you connect to one of Garena’s rooms is because, PLDT DSL doesn’t let its customers share traffic with its peers like Globe, Sky or Bayan DSL. The company intentionally keeps the exchange through its own network.

The main reason why Filipinos are paying more for slower internet connection compared to other countries is because PLDT acts as the country’s own backbone, able to control all the flow of internet traffic from Philippines to the outside. ISPs are also required to pay PLDT for using its ‘fake’ backbone instead of relying to real backbone service providers like PACNET to properly handle the data exchange for this country.

Unfortunately, there's a slim chance for PLDT to fix this because: 1) If the company connects to Philippine's IX, Globe will have the upper hand on giving better service to its customers 2) If PLDT starts paying for a real backbone service, it will lose a chunk of its profit since it's currently acting as the country's network backbone enjoying unprecedented power on dictating how traffic exchange should be structured in Philippines, setting the price for internet bandwith, plus, the annual cut it receives from ISPs paying for its 'one-of-a-kind' network.


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