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    Quote Originally Posted by <SMILE> View Post
    Then why is it that we do have laws of the land,
    for what is it for?
    to regulate, provide punishment, and prevent injustice..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jhared View Post
    to regulate, provide punishment, and prevent injustice..
    And may I ask in Which World View this idea is based From? Naturalist World View? Atheism World View? Judeo Christian World View?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jhared View Post
    wala man ko nag ingon nga silutan.. i said why are we conceived with sin? or if you find that hard to understand, nganong natawo man ta nga naay sala nga panulondon?
    Quote Originally Posted by Jhared View Post
    Im not asking kong pwede ba mawala or dili, nangutana ko kong ngano? unsa may rason sa ginoo nga iya nang gibuhat?

    na hala sige adto nalang sa Ginoo pangutana kay murag ang akong tubag dili mo haom sa imong gusto kay utro man sad kung hinimo ra niya, ug utro sad kong aduna anang gitawag ug original sin...sa ako nga bahin ni angkon lang ko na aduna ko ana, unya kamo dili

    sa akoa rani ha wala labot ang Ginoo, akong tubag sa imong pangutana ngano iya ng gibuhat? isip warning sa mga tawo "nga hoy ikaw! naa na baya kay sala nako hap, gikan pas imong apuhan ning imong sala, dili gani ka motuman naa ra gyud na nimo"
    Last edited by slabdans; 07-17-2014 at 12:33 PM.

  4. #8494
    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Interpreting the Words/LAW in the Bible is Not Revising, its called - INTERPRETING.

    Revising is when you interpret the Bible and PRINT your own version to Fit your belief.

    The Content of Genesis Centuries ago still the same the Bible today. The word use may change like the New English version or other but the meaning is still the same.

    Btw, The BIBLE is NOT the Word of God Entirely, It CONTAINS the word of God. the Bible also contain the words of Satan
    ahhh, meaning the bible today is the same as the bible in the previous times w/ minimal edits,and revisions?
    Last edited by porbidaman; 07-17-2014 at 01:53 PM.

  5. #8495
    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    nahinimdom noon ko ani istoryaha tungod sa inyong topic


    The professor of a university challenged his students with this question. "Did God create everything that exists?" A student answered bravely, "Yes, he did".

    The professor then asked, "If God created everything, then he created evil. Since evil exists (as noticed by our own actions), so God is evil. The student couldn't respond to that statement causing the professor to conclude that he had "proved" that "belief in God" was a fairy tale, and therefore worthless.

    Another student raised his hand and asked the professor, "May I pose a question? " "Of course" answered the professor.

    The young student stood up and asked : "Professor does Cold exists?"

    The professor answered, "What kind of question is that? ...Of course the cold exists... haven't you ever been cold?"
    The young student answered, "In fact sir, Cold does not exist. According to the laws of Physics, what we consider cold, in fact is the absence of heat. Anything is able to be studied as long as it transmits energy (heat). Absolute Zero is the total absence of heat, but cold does not exist. What we have done is create a term to describe how we feel if we don't have body heat or we are not hot."

    "And, does Dark exist?", he continued. The professor answered "Of course". This time the student responded, "Again you're wrong, Sir. Darkness does not exist either. Darkness is in fact simply the absence of light. Light can be studied, darkness can not. Darkness cannot be broken down. A simple ray of light tears the darkness and illuminates the surface where the light beam finishes. Dark is a term that we humans have created to describe what happens when there's lack of light."

    Finally, the student asked the professor, "Sir, does evil exist?" The professor replied, "Of course it exists, as I mentioned at the beginning, we see violations, crimes and violence anywhere in the world, and those things are evil."

    The student responded, "Sir, Evil does not exist. Just as in the previous cases, Evil is a term which man has created to describe the result of the absence of God's presence in the hearts of man."

    After this, the professor bowed down his head, and didn't answer back.

    The young man's name was ALBERT EINSTEIN.

    Source: Einstein Proves God Exists - Urban Legends
    Kadungog nako ani woooooo

    1. He only asserted that evil is the absence of god. Yet he cannot prove it.

    2. Open the professors head and see the brain

    3. The law of empirical bla blah isnt about "have you seen your brain?" but rather "is there a way that we may see your brain?

    4. There is no absolute proof that this conversion took place.

    5. If it did take place, einstein would be pretty damn stupid to have such flaws in his argument

    Extra: nindota nmog source, urban LEGENDS, naglibug ko if nagsupport ka ana or imong gi disprove
    Last edited by pakinimo; 07-17-2014 at 02:03 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Is Religion Real? What kind of Question is that? Last time I know most Religion are Not Virtual. Most Religion are registered in Govt, Most religion have Church, Leaders and Organization, Most religion have People following in them - SO yeah, Religion is Real.
    I need to be specific diay ky murag taas ra kaayo ang question. Tinoud inyong religion? Tinoud na tanan religion?
    If it was then I would be very horrified by the truth that we only do good because we are afraid of being sent to hell. And not because we are good in nature.


    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Why would you Venture away from your Original Topic, You question the Bible and Now Religion? Do you even know the Difference?
    Bati man gud na topic bro, lisud kaayo e expound ky dead-end agad2x.. Theistic Evolution is retarded because God said the bible is his Words.
    Then they would say na 'ay sayup si God dri dapita ky ang science nag ingon dili mao'. Evade all the issues and believe what is left


    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    What Evidence, Physical? Scientific.


    God is a Spirit, and Jesus Resurrected to Heaven with hi earthly Body. Wa nay physical Evidence if mao nay imung Gipangita.


    And your a bit confuse, because you Question the Morality to Prove the Existence of God which is a Very different things.
    Theres No God because of Sufferings? This is the Question that Proved Atheism is Not about Reason but about Feelings. Naay answer ani pero taas taas.
    How did you know that God is a spirit? What Kind of PROOF except for the bible can you give?
    Sa kadugay nako sige ko basa and research about why we have a GOD, I never found proof except mga storya sa taw that your God is real
    And fake ang uban Gods. Morality never came from God or religion -_-


    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    so based sa Morals naa sa Bibliya imung pasabot?
    Based on the bible which contradicts my very own MORALE! Your God supports slavery, kills gays, lesbians and those who are not virgin women.






    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    What about the Jews?
    Umm first, ang jews maay nag suwat sa new testament Bible if im not mistaken. Nganong sila ra man? Sa kadaghan sa taw sa kalibutan nganong sila ra may
    gi sultihan about ana nga pamulong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    sure ka na wala sila makasabot ni God? ngano naka communicate man sila? ug ngano nakasabot man sila na dili na angay buhaton and the serpent exist? diha nasad masud tong imong arguments na talking exist...kung mao na gi unsa nila pagkasinabot nga ilang languange ang sa snake ssshhhh sssshhhh raman to ug ang sa unggoy huhuhu huhu huhu Lols

    cast to death pero wala ka maghuna-huna nga ganahan ra gihapon siyang mabalik niya ang tawo? in the first place ngano maghasol hasol paman siya sulti nga adto mo sa langit?


    atong pamub-an ang ato gitawag ug silot kay dili ta kasabot kung ato hisgutan Ginoo


    kung imong anak mosupak sa imong mga gusto or balaod sa balay kay kana makadaot, unsa may imong buhaton sa imong anak kung makasala gyud? imong hatagan ug award? syempre imong ng silotan para maka amgo sa ilang sayop, ug para mahatagan silag lugway sa panahon nga sila mag bag-o para nga imong mapasaylo

    tinuod nga nadamay ka kay ppagumangkon raka...mao bitaw naa tay gitawag na pagbag-o, ngano gisilutan man ka? tungod kay bisan kahibaw naka nga sala to imo gihapon nga gibuhat.


    sample napud: imong lolo tulisan ug rapist, pagka tawo nimo nganlan naka ana sa mga tawo nga kaliwat kag tulisan, karon kung tarong sad ka...ngano manulis man ka? ngano mang rape man ka?...pwede man unta nimo pag-uhon ang dalaan nga naagian sa imong mga apohan. karon gi senstensyahan ka..tungod kay padayon ka sa pagpanulis ug pagpangrape nga unta naa naman unta ng balaora

    Soooo... unsa man gyud atong ibutang aning adam & eve? Literal or metaphor? Galibug na ko ninyo.
    Kung literal, ofcourse that is not plausible because we came from homo erectus. They dont have the
    Intellectual Capacity we have right now na makasabot ra ug usa ka storya

    Kung metaphor man sad gani, ngano lage imo man kong idout sa sala sakong lolo ug lola nga in the first
    place, di man na akong sala.. ilaha mana? Kay abig lolo nako sila pareha na mig sala? Unsa man akong
    bag.ohon nga wala man koy gibuhat sayup?


    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    mao lage...asa man ka mangita nga dunay bata nga wala pay kabuot nga gisilutan? pakit-a daw ko?
    Matud sa bible, the moment we are born naa na tay sala and the only way to redeem ourselves is through Christ.
    So ang mga bata nga wa pay buot but are born with sins, hell gihapon ky they nvr redeem theirselves..
    Flawed concept introduced by medieval ppl into our current era. Blind faith can really destroy everything and limit your
    capacity to think for a reason and not just believe in a book where reasons are


    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    nganu akoy muhatag nimu nga ikaw ni DISPROVE sa amung belief nga naa sa Bibliya dunay Serpente ni istorya? Nganu mangita paman mig evidence nga Nagtuo nman ming daan nga Tinuod nang nasulat sa Bibliya..

    We believed in the Bible, the Bible said dunay Serpente ni Istorya. Nya mu ingun ka Impossible or Dili tinuod kay way Bitin mu istorya. Nya i ask you ASA imung Physical Evidence nga sa KADTUNG panahuna walay Bitin mu Istorya - WALA kay ikahatag SO imung Reason is FLAWED.

    Nya karun ako na nuon muhatag nimu ug Evidence nga naa?

    If you ask Me asa ang Bitin mu istorya, i will say sa Panahon ni Adan based sa Bibliya Dunay Bitin ni istorya. Unsay imung ikasulti?
    Well science tells us that ang bitin, cannot speak.. Ayaw ko ingna evolution is wrong? Evolution is to evolve not degenerate from your species dba?
    So lets say naa silay mga bitin nga mo storya ug kung ni evolve na sila, nganong wa may mo storya nga bitin karon? Im not tryng to disprove anything
    Im just saying that FACTS OVER FICTION please..

    And guess what? Kung ang bitin ni storya, so as BIGFOOT and LOCHNESS monster, so as ICE GIANTS and Thor.. ning exist mana sila sauna just like your serpent.
    Sa storya sa vikings (not familiar with the story) kay gi patay ni THOR tanan ICE GIANTS. Nakakita pa ba kag ICE GIANTS karon? Wala.. So tinoud sad diay si thor? Ing.ana lang gud pag may time

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    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    And may I ask in Which World View this idea is based From? Naturalist World View? Atheism World View? Judeo Christian World View?
    legal view..

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    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    na hala sige adto nalang sa Ginoo pangutana kay murag ang akong tubag dili mo haom sa imong gusto kay utro man sad kung hinimo ra niya, ug utro sad kong aduna anang gitawag ug original sin...sa ako nga bahin ni angkon lang ko na aduna ko ana, unya kamo dili
    naa pkay original sin? aw wa pa diay ka mabunyagi.. kay mawala mana kuno through baptism,. erihis pa diay kang dako..

    sa akoa rani ha wala labot ang Ginoo, akong tubag sa imong pangutana ngano iya ng gibuhat? isip warning sa mga tawo "nga hoy ikaw! naa na baya kay sala nako hap, gikan pas imong apuhan ning imong sala, dili gani ka motuman naa ra gyud na nimo"
    haha.. isip warning? kuyawa gd.. mao ba?

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    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    nahinimdom noon ko ani istoryaha tungod sa inyong topic


    The professor of a university challenged his students with this question. "Did God create everything that exists?" A student answered bravely, "Yes, he did".

    The professor then asked, "If God created everything, then he created evil. Since evil exists (as noticed by our own actions), so God is evil. The student couldn't respond to that statement causing the professor to conclude that he had "proved" that "belief in God" was a fairy tale, and therefore worthless.

    Another student raised his hand and asked the professor, "May I pose a question? " "Of course" answered the professor.

    The young student stood up and asked : "Professor does Cold exists?"

    The professor answered, "What kind of question is that? ...Of course the cold exists... haven't you ever been cold?"
    The young student answered, "In fact sir, Cold does not exist. According to the laws of Physics, what we consider cold, in fact is the absence of heat. Anything is able to be studied as long as it transmits energy (heat). Absolute Zero is the total absence of heat, but cold does not exist. What we have done is create a term to describe how we feel if we don't have body heat or we are not hot."

    "And, does Dark exist?", he continued. The professor answered "Of course". This time the student responded, "Again you're wrong, Sir. Darkness does not exist either. Darkness is in fact simply the absence of light. Light can be studied, darkness can not. Darkness cannot be broken down. A simple ray of light tears the darkness and illuminates the surface where the light beam finishes. Dark is a term that we humans have created to describe what happens when there's lack of light."

    Finally, the student asked the professor, "Sir, does evil exist?" The professor replied, "Of course it exists, as I mentioned at the beginning, we see violations, crimes and violence anywhere in the world, and those things are evil."

    The student responded, "Sir, Evil does not exist. Just as in the previous cases, Evil is a term which man has created to describe the result of the absence of God's presence in the hearts of man."

    After this, the professor bowed down his head, and didn't answer back.

    The young man's name was ALBERT EINSTEIN.

    Source: Einstein Proves God Exists - Urban Legends

    wala man nimo tiwasa og basa na...hahaha...sikat na sa internet sauna pero nilaos na na kay bulok na nga argument...

    imo unta gi-apil ni pag post kay sumpay ra ni sila sa urban legends


    Specious logic

    The claim that cold "doesn't exist" because according to the laws of physics it's merely "the absence of heat" amounts to nothing more than semantic game-playing. Heat is a noun, the name of a physical phenomenon, a form of energy. Cold is an adjective describing a relative lack of heat. To say that something is cold, or that we feel cold, or even that we're going out in "the cold," is not to assert that cold "exists." We're simply reporting the temperature. (It's helpful to recognize that the antonym of cold isn't heat; it's hot.)

    The same applies to light (in this context a noun denoting a form of energy), and dark (an adjective). It's true that when we say, "It's dark outside," the phenomenon we're actually describing is a relative absence of light, but that doesn't mean that by speaking of "the dark" we mistake it for a thing that "exists" in the same sense that light does. We're simply describing the degree of illumination we perceive.

    Thus, it's a philosophical parlor trick to posit heat and cold (or light and dark) as a pair of opposite entities only to "reveal" that the second term doesn't really refer to an entity at all, but merely the absence of the first.

    The young Einstein would have known better, and so would his professor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by God of the gaps View Post
    wala man nimo tiwasa og basa na...hahaha...sikat na sa internet sauna pero nilaos na na kay bulok na nga argument...

    imo unta gi-apil ni pag post kay sumpay ra ni sila sa urban legends


    Specious logic

    The claim that cold "doesn't exist" because according to the laws of physics it's merely "the absence of heat" amounts to nothing more than semantic game-playing. Heat is a noun, the name of a physical phenomenon, a form of energy. Cold is an adjective describing a relative lack of heat. To say that something is cold, or that we feel cold, or even that we're going out in "the cold," is not to assert that cold "exists." We're simply reporting the temperature. (It's helpful to recognize that the antonym of cold isn't heat; it's hot.)

    The same applies to light (in this context a noun denoting a form of energy), and dark (an adjective). It's true that when we say, "It's dark outside," the phenomenon we're actually describing is a relative absence of light, but that doesn't mean that by speaking of "the dark" we mistake it for a thing that "exists" in the same sense that light does. We're simply describing the degree of illumination we perceive.

    Thus, it's a philosophical parlor trick to posit heat and cold (or light and dark) as a pair of opposite entities only to "reveal" that the second term doesn't really refer to an entity at all, but merely the absence of the first.

    The young Einstein would have known better, and so would his professor.
    ngano ako man tiwason nga si einstein man ato gihisgutan, infact imo ng idol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jhared View Post
    naa pkay original sin? aw wa pa diay ka mabunyagi.. kay mawala mana kuno through baptism,. erihis pa diay kang dako..?
    kinsay nag ingon nga mawala through baptism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jhared View Post
    haha.. isip warning? kuyawa gd.. mao ba?
    mao gani adto nalang niya (Ginoo) pangutana kay bisan unsa akong itubag diri, klaro ug tataw nga sayop na nimo

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