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  1. #8031

    Quote Originally Posted by phattchoi View Post
    dili man sd ko parokyano diri boss. o naka hatag sad ko gamay pero pagkahibaw nku na atop sa simbahan 1.6M ni undang ko hatag.
    hi bro,

    ang inadlaw,senimana ug binuwan nga gastohan sa simbahan sa mga regular normal lang nga panahon murag dako2x na jud daan..
    bunga sa mga responsibilidad nga ilang gi atubang.. mga bill payments, sweldo sa mga empleyado.. ug mga charity and pastoral works like outreach programs and the likes..
    samut na nga nakasugat ug kalamidad..murag short na jud kaayo.

    kay sige pa ug pangulekta ang simbahan meaning kulang ang pundo para ma rebuild ang simbahan.
    karun, tan.aw nimu ang mga sinsilyo nga ihatag sa offertory enough na kaha na para irebuild ang simbahan nga ultimo atop kay 1.6M na?
    nahitabo ba nga gi obligar sa simbahan ilang mga parokyano ug hatag ug specific nga amount para sa halad? wala man pud siguro. mao sigurong kuwang pa ang pundo.

    kung tan.aw nimu di pa to enough ang gihatag sa Vatican nga $150,000.00 or p6,000,000.00
    murag tinuod dili jud na enough, pero ang pangutana kung i exhaust tanang funds sa main Church didto sa Vatican..do you think it would be economical? di kaha ni maka apekto sa mga gisupportahan na daan sa Vatican worldwide charity programs..
    ug pangandam para sa mga susama nga kalamidad?

    kung gikorakot man gani sa inyong simbahan ang hinabang gikan sa Vatican or ang mga koleksyon..
    aw Ginoo nalay mag-igo ana nila..

    kung gusto jud ka, pwede ka mangutana sa accounting office sa simbahan.

    kasuway ko sa una ana sa San Vicente Parish..ug gihakyaran ko sa mga gastohon...
    murag nauwaw ko sa akong sinsilyo nga ginahatag kada simba..LOL
    Last edited by noy; 06-20-2014 at 04:18 PM.

  2. #8032
    for starters regarding Holy Trinity

    here is a quick Q and A from catholic.com

    Full Question
    Please explain the Holy Trinity in plain English to me so I can explain to a friend of another faith. I have looked up the Trinity, and it is difficult to understand and explain.

    Answer
    The Trinity is one of the most difficult realities to comprehend but it might be a helpful start to recognize the distinction between a “being” and a “person.”

    God is one Being (the one and only divine Being). This divine Being exists as three Persons (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit). This is unusual to us because each human being is only one person and it might seem that every being has to be one person: one being = one person.

    But that’s simply not always the case. For example, a dog is a being but is not a person. A tree is a being but is not a person. In these cases, one being = zero persons. On the other hand, an angel is a being and is a person. In their case, angelic beings are similar to human beings: one being = one person.

    Once you recognize that not every being is always exactly one person, it might be easier to grasp God’s unique reality, the Trinity: one Being = three Persons.

    I hope this is a helpful start.
    source: Can you explain the Trinity in plain language? | Catholic Answers

    kung gusto mo ug detalye bahin aning trinitarian view on God from the Catholic perspective,
    click the link below:

    CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: The Blessed Trinity

    "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."
    1 John 5:7
    Last edited by noy; 06-20-2014 at 04:42 PM.

  3. #8033
    Quote Originally Posted by brackitz View Post
    Niay pangutana gikan sakong migo... pero istoryahun sa nato daan.

    Ingon ini ni....nakabuntis siya sa iyang uyab...karon, gusto sa iyang uyab nga ipalag-lag ang bata kay matud pa hadlok daw siya sa iyang papa, mapatyan siya. Ang akong migo maski gustohon man niya nga pakatawhon gyud bata apan mao lage, tungod kay mahal niya iyang uyab niuyon na lang siya kung unsay gusto sa iyang uyab. Nabuhat gyud nila. Kahibaw silang duha unsa ka daku ilang sala nabuhat. Naa na say nakasulti nila nga basta magpalaglag daw ka, adto gyud ka sa obispo kung mangumpisal ka.

    Unsa katinood nga sa obispo lang ka makakumpisal ug dili sa pari? Nganu man, unsay diay gikuptang katungod sa obispo nga siya ray pwede kumpisalan sa nakasala'g paglaglag? Pareha ra ba sila (akong migo ug iyang uyab) kadaku ug sala nabuhat bahin sa paglaglag? Di diay pwede ug luhod na lang sa simbahan aron mangyu ug pasaylo directa sa Ginoo?

    Kay ang obispo kuno lisod matymingan nga naa permi sa cathedral or sa place iyang gi stay-han.
    hi bro, the Church teaching identifies some sins that are considered very serious that they can excommunicate a person.
    meaning it is the type of sin that can separate that person from the communion of the Church.
    apparently abortion is one of those sins. in this case, mao kinahanglan nga ang Bishop na maoy mu celebrate sa sacrament of reconciliation.
    If not the Pope, only the Bishop can lift the excommunication in these cases as the overseer of a certain diocese.

    although bishops are able to delegate this responsibility to some priests..
    so perhaps kadtong pari nga ilang gikompisalan initially kay wala toy authorization sa bishop to hear a confession for abortion.
    in the same way that all bishops are authorized to perform the exorcism rite, but only ordained or delegated priests can perform the rite.

    i hope your friend and his girlfriend will seek to find a way to do this, at least mahulog nalang pud ni ug indulhensiya para nila.
    Good thing is they are able to realize nga sayop ilang gibuhat. it takes courage to admit one's fault
    which is already a big step towards reconciliation.

  4. #8034
    Quote Originally Posted by phattchoi View Post
    dili man sd ko parokyano diri boss. o naka hatag sad ko gamay pero pagkahibaw nku na atop sa simbahan 1.6M ni undang ko hatag.
    1.6M = Roofing Plus trusses plus Labor? og roofing sheets ra medjo mahal ra jd.

  5. #8035
    pwede na siguro ta mag next question.

  6. #8036
    Quote Originally Posted by Arteezy View Post
    firstly, you agree that 1+1+1=1 so stupid
    Yes it's stupid but it does not represent the Trinity so what's your point? If you want to make a point try something that at least will relate to the Trinity.

    then , you just tell us here that his argument is flawed without explanation lol.
    Well really? I actually pointed out the flaw. Do I need to explain it? No, not to you because you're an atheist. Why would I waste my time explaining about something you don't even believe in in the first place?

    your explanation is just he is ignorant. classic ad hominem style

    you are just making the catholic look worse...ROFL
    I haven't done any explanation FYI. There's no need for me to explain all I need is to point out the flaw and his argument will crumble on its own.

    There is one person in the Trinity.. ppffft.. made my day

  7. #8037
    misahan gihapon pero sure dili nana malangit

  8. #8038
    Quote Originally Posted by NapoleonBlownapart View Post
    There is one person in the Trinity.. ppffft.. made my day
    do you know what made my day??

    he never said that trinity is one...you never understood his point

    christian fail 101

  9. #8039
    Quote Originally Posted by Arteezy View Post
    do you know what made my day??

    he never said that trinity is one...you never understood his point

    christian fail 101
    He clearly said not three person but one person referring to the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit at 0:46 and he repeated it at 1:08 now who didn't understand his point

  10. #8040
    Quote Originally Posted by NapoleonBlownapart View Post
    He clearly said not three person but one person referring to the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit at 0:46
    yup, he said that then he followed "then what language are you speaking"?

    you still don't know what he meant?? are you that stupid??

    rofl....omg you are the worst catholic here

    seriously, improve your comprehension skills man..

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