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[code.war]

I see no point why some people are judging other people’s beliefs.

The Belief in the paranormal is universal. Anything that science cannot explain is paranormal.

Forcing people what to believe is wrong in the same way as telling them what not to believe.

So for this thread to survive, we need to respect each other’s experiences and keep an open mind.

[raissah]

i was thinking of the same thing. is there any way nga ma-stop ni xa? naa ba cla pwede mabuhat para di na cla hilabtan?

Probably, mag ampo and more faith sa Ginoo or pa blessingan ug usob/ipa cleanse ang kana nga lugar.
Tempa ask lang ko ha. Kana inyo office naa nay history nga naay na deads diha? Or bsag wla ma deads kay mga tawo kasagaran dha mga hilum ba or depressed ang uban? Naka ask lang ko kay mao mn gud nay maka attract ug mga ingon ana.

Kahinumdum ko sa ancestral home namo nipuyo mi didto kas-a. Naa jud dili ingon nato didto. Didto jud ko naka too nga naay things nga dlipa ta kasabot sa pagka karon. Pero paghawa namo didto, ang nipuli ug puyo akong mga cousins nga mga lake. Perting saba nila nya always ra nga party2 and naay tawo didto bsag kinsa ray mosulod, sukad ato wla na juy dili ingon nato nga ma feel didto. Hadlok tingali tong ungo ug saba. Hahaha Sige rag pa music ug rock buntag sau hantud hapon unya magabie mag videoke kadlawonay. Wlay ungo mosalir. Kung naa man gani, wla pod sila kabantay kay mga hubog na. hahaha Surrender ang ungo.

[Little_Mermaid88]

Probably, mag ampo and more faith sa Ginoo or pa blessingan ug usob/ipa cleanse ang kana nga lugar.
Tempa ask lang ko ha. Kana inyo office naa nay history nga naay na deads diha? Or bsag wla ma deads kay mga tawo kasagaran dha mga hilum ba or depressed ang uban? Naka ask lang ko kay mao mn gud nay maka attract ug mga ingon ana.

Kahinumdum ko sa ancestral home namo nipuyo mi didto kas-a. Naa jud dili ingon nato didto. Didto jud ko naka too nga naay things nga dlipa ta kasabot sa pagka karon. Pero paghawa namo didto, ang nipuli ug puyo akong mga cousins nga mga lake. Perting saba nila nya always ra nga party2 and naay tawo didto bsag kinsa ray mosulod, sukad ato wla na juy dili ingon nato nga ma feel didto. Hadlok tingali tong ungo ug saba. Hahaha Sige rag pa music ug rock buntag sau hantud hapon unya magabie mag videoke kadlawonay. Wlay ungo mosalir. Kung naa man gani, wla pod sila kabantay kay mga hubog na. hahaha Surrender ang ungo.

it's a new building man. and we're actually the first people to occupy that room. pero ingon cla nga wa ma-blessingan ang place kai insik ang tag-iya ana

[raissah]

it's a new building man. and we're actually the first people to occupy that room. pero ingon cla nga wa ma-blessingan ang place kai insik ang tag-iya ana

ahh pero ang yuta nga gitukodan sa building wla mo kadungog ug history about ana?
Like dire sa office. Kaning building namo kay before ni gihimo, naa daw daku nga water well dire, ingon ang mga locals. Unya perting mingawa. Naa daw nahulog nga bata sa well. Karon kay maka kita btaw mig bata modagan rag kalit dres office. Mura ra cyag ordinaryo nga bata nga gapangbalay ug sanina maong dli ka mahadlok. Unya after kay anha naka maka remember nga office man diay ni, nganung naa man toy bata nag dagan sa floor. Kaingon mi before nga basin anak sa usa ka officemate siguro unya daghan na man jud nga matingala kay mawala ra daw ug kalit.

Kahinumdum ko one time nga akong seatmate katong nag dial pa ko, sigeg reklamo kay iyang liston daw sa sapatos mag sigeg ka "untie". Sige ra sad niyag ibalik ug hikot. After 3 ka times guro to iyang ibalik ug hikot naka malay na mi. Then mao to ingon cyag kalit nga "ahay ayaw ko binuangi ha. hampakon tkaw rong bataa ka" pag sunod niya tan-aw sa iyang liston kay gi hikot btaw iyang duha ka liston sa sapatos. Wla ra sad mi kay wla man mi ka feel ug kulba. Nag storyahanay ra pod mis nahitabo.

Pero ang pinaka grabe jud nahitabo kay naay naghilak nga baye sa pikas cubicle unya palong pa ang suga didto kay wla pay nag dial. Kusog kaau pagkahilak nga murag kanang gool kaau or gisakitan. Then nanindog na tanang agents, ang sup na mismo nidool sa lugar then gipasiga ang suga. Wala jud tawo bisag usa. Kahadlok. Tanang agents kay mao ray gihisgutan hantug nag meal break na. Halos tanan nakadungog. Sheettt kahinumdum napod ko ato dah!

[madina]

Well, what you said it's true, but you're forgetting that the act of bringing your son/daughter sa albularyo might cause sa iyang sakit na mo grabeh. So you business might progress, but so is your son/daughter sickness. Somewhat maka gasto gihapon kag dako if mo grabe ang iyang sakit. I'm didn't say it will affect your progress, but it will affect your decisions. Somewhat our decisions is based on what we believed. I didn't say it's wrong to have a believe, but I would hopefully wish that people will be smart enough to choose what to believe, or at least think it clearly and try to find logical reason why they would choose to believe in it. We've seen this many times already but we chose to ignore it. Somehow we are trying so hard to justify and defend what we believe even if it doesn't do us any good, just because we feel better believing it doesn't mean that what we believe in is automatically true or beneficial.

Don't take this the wrong way ha, you might think that I am trying to engage a debate with you but really I just wanted a conversation, because people nowadays doesn't do this anymore. They just go and start a war right away.

Simple ra man kaayo ang issue boss, it's all about "can you not do progress if you believe in paranormal?" Kanang imong gipugos nga albularyo, wala nakay mahimo ana kung mao na ilang pagtoo. You can't force them to be with you in your beliefs. Ayaw ilayo ang issue kay bisag unsaon natog lalis di jud ta maghuman. Huna hunaa pud nga dili pareha tanan pagtoo bisan unsa pa ka civilisado, ang tao di nato mapugngan nga naa gihapoy mitoo. If you respect them thats it, human ang issue. Basta ako. whatever you beliefs are, wala nay labot sa pag lambo sa usa ka taw.

Im not trying to get a debate with you either. I just don't want nga mahimug nasad nig circus. Cge tag tuyok tuyok way kahumanan ang issue.I hope nga nakasabot ka sa akong statement. Naa man guy uban nga bisag sayon ra kaayo sabton ang statement, magpa goryo2x pa unya ilayo ang issue kay ganahan ug debate. Ako dili ko ing-ana. Kung unsa man imong pagtoo ako nang gi respito ug hinaot ing-ana pud ka diri naku. That's it human ang issue.

[noy]

kasuway ko with my big bro when we were kids..
naglingkod mi sa sofa atubangan namu is ang electric fan unya ningkalit lang ug pislit-pislit on its own..from number 1, then 3, nya 2 nasad..hangtud gi off ang fan..LOL
karatil mig dagan sa akong igsoon..hahahaha!!

[gotnowheels]

Simple ra man kaayo ang issue boss, it's all about "can you not do progress if you believe in paranormal?" Kanang imong gipugos nga albularyo, wala nakay mahimo ana kung mao na ilang pagtoo. You can't force them to be with you in your beliefs. Ayaw ilayo ang issue kay bisag unsaon natog lalis di jud ta maghuman. Huna hunaa pud nga dili pareha tanan pagtoo bisan unsa pa ka civilisado, ang tao di nato mapugngan nga naa gihapoy mitoo. If you respect them thats it, human ang issue. Basta ako. whatever you beliefs are, wala nay labot sa pag lambo sa usa ka taw.

Im not trying to get a debate with you either. I just don't want nga mahimug nasad nig circus. Cge tag tuyok tuyok way kahumanan ang issue.I hope nga nakasabot ka sa akong statement. Naa man guy uban nga bisag sayon ra kaayo sabton ang statement, magpa goryo2x pa unya ilayo ang issue kay ganahan ug debate. Ako dili ko ing-ana. Kung unsa man imong pagtoo ako nang gi respito ug hinaot ing-ana pud ka diri naku. That's it human ang issue.

It does affect your progress boss. Since your beliefs is a factor when you are making your decisions. I'm not saying na it is wrong to have a beliefs, but it's wrong to just believe in something where you don't have any valid reason to believe in too. And also, of course not all beliefs signifant. Naay uban nga maski mo too ka or dili, it's not going to affect on how you decide. However, those beliefs that states something about how you live your life or states something about morality, that's where you really see the effect. My example about the "Ablularyo" shows a person will suffer for having a decisions based on what you believe in. You and I can both agree that we don't want to see any person suffer, especially when we could have prevented it from happening. I get what you mean na dili tanan taw parehas og pagtoo, but we all know what's good or bad, wrong and right decisions. We all have brains to think about what could be the effect of our decisions. You say na whatever your beliefs are, walay labot sa imong pag progress? I'm going to give you an example: Christianity has been advising people around the world to not use a condom or contraceptive pills. Now in Africa, there are many people died because of AIDS which we could have prevented it if they use condoms. Contraceptive Pills has a different case. There will be some point in time that the human civilization will suffer because the demand for food exceeded the supply. Population Crisis is serious and we should act soon, but since Christians and other sects are campaigning against it, people who BELIEVED will be blinded on what's the effect of having our population out of control. Now you tell me if it is progress. I have respect to all people around me, and I care for our future. If we keep on doing the wrong decisions, how else humanity will progress? I know, we made mistakes, hell even I did have beliefs that made me make a wrong decisions. But I learned from what happened and I know I have to assess things that are being said or taught to me. We keep on complaining the bad things happening around us what we don't realize is that we actually have the ability to correct it. I didn't tell you to believe in something what I believed in. I never do that if wala ko giapngutana. If you read my post, wala nako gipalayo ang issue, concern lang ko sa unsa imong gi post ba, and somehow I was urged to reply since alarming man gud if magpataka lang kag too. You don't even know kung unsa akong gi toohan kay wala ko mag sulti diri. Don't act as if I didn't respect you or anything, but yeah in someway I just challenged your opinion about having a belief. The best thing to do is to defend it. Kung ako? I would love someone to somehow talk to me and challenge mine as well. So that I will know whether I'm doing the right or the wrong thing. Just because someone challenge your opinion doesn't mean that wala na dayon mo respeto. This one of the excuses sa mga taw para dili ma exploit ang ilang belief. Dili jud mahuman ang issue until dili ma resolved. As I have said, dili sa ingon nga wala ko nag respeto nimo, og dili sa ingon nga wa koy lingaw or ganahan lang jud ko manghilabot.

[resueraharold22]

ahak d man sad ko katug ani nga thread oi hadlokan baya kau ko..ahak.....

[Moving_Forward]

just an inquiry..

my officemates have been experiencing "unexplained" things sa office. there are times nga naay manuktok sa door and then when we opened it, wai taw. chair was dragged by "someone". then ang pinaka-scary kai katong ni-open and close ang door sa cr three times bisan wa jd taw ddto sa sulod.

i wonder lang why these things happened mostly to my officemates ra. i sleep here sa office (its an office/house) but wa jud koi ma-feel and ma-experience nga mga ingon-ani. usahay ako ra usa gani. is my brain wired differently than theirs?

Not necessarily. Dili lang siguro ka abtanon pagkatao... dili duolon ug mga "not like us" ba. Naa mangud mga tao nga duolon, dali pakitaon or paramdamon. Basig dili lang ka ingon ana. Or wala palang jud ka matimingi.

[MaInEvEnT]

It does affect your progress boss. Since your beliefs is a factor when you are making your decisions. I'm not saying na it is wrong to have a beliefs, but it's wrong to just believe in something where you don't have any valid reason to believe in too. And also, of course not all beliefs signifant. Naay uban nga maski mo too ka or dili, it's not going to affect on how you decide. However, those beliefs that states something about how you live your life or states something about morality, that's where you really see the effect. My example about the "Ablularyo" shows a person will suffer for having a decisions based on what you believe in. You and I can both agree that we don't want to see any person suffer, especially when we could have prevented it from happening. I get what you mean na dili tanan taw parehas og pagtoo, but we all know what's good or bad, wrong and right decisions. We all have brains to think about what could be the effect of our decisions. You say na whatever your beliefs are, walay labot sa imong pag progress? I'm going to give you an example: Christianity has been advising people around the world to not use a condom or contraceptive pills. Now in Africa, there are many people died because of AIDS which we could have prevented it if they use condoms. Contraceptive Pills has a different case. There will be some point in time that the human civilization will suffer because the demand for food exceeded the supply. Population Crisis is serious and we should act soon, but since Christians and other sects are campaigning against it, people who BELIEVED will be blinded on what's the effect of having our population out of control. Now you tell me if it is progress. I have respect to all people around me, and I care for our future. If we keep on doing the wrong decisions, how else humanity will progress? I know, we made mistakes, hell even I did have beliefs that made me make a wrong decisions. But I learned from what happened and I know I have to assess things that are being said or taught to me. We keep on complaining the bad things happening around us what we don't realize is that we actually have the ability to correct it. I didn't tell you to believe in something what I believed in. I never do that if wala ko giapngutana. If you read my post, wala nako gipalayo ang issue, concern lang ko sa unsa imong gi post ba, and somehow I was urged to reply since alarming man gud if magpataka lang kag too. You don't even know kung unsa akong gi toohan kay wala ko mag sulti diri. Don't act as if I didn't respect you or anything, but yeah in someway I just challenged your opinion about having a belief. The best thing to do is to defend it. Kung ako? I would love someone to somehow talk to me and challenge mine as well. So that I will know whether I'm doing the right or the wrong thing. Just because someone challenge your opinion doesn't mean that wala na dayon mo respeto. This one of the excuses sa mga taw para dili ma exploit ang ilang belief. Dili jud mahuman ang issue until dili ma resolved. As I have said, dili sa ingon nga wala ko nag respeto nimo, og dili sa ingon nga wa koy lingaw or ganahan lang jud ko manghilabot.

Thing is, this is not the thread to try to have this kind of "conversation". You can maybe look for a thread that is or create one. this thread is for people who want to share their experiences or for people who just want to read about them. Dili ni para discussion on if you think they are real or not or if angay ba mu tuo or dli... You can always make a thread about it if you want to have these kinds of "conversations" or discussions... I hope this is clear.