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  1. #7971

    Quote Originally Posted by marius View Post
    coz kadtong bunyag sa akong anak sa una, gipabayad mi ug 1000 para sa bunyag and then 100 for every godfather/godmother

    kasal sa akong cousin, bayad sila ug 5k sa church
    ang church fees bai kay depende na sa simbahan, depende sa financial necessities sa maong simbahan..
    gamiton na siya para sa mga financial obligations sa simbahan like bills to pay,salary sa mga employees.maintenance sa church and the likes .. sa mga charity and pastoral works sa simbahan..
    like mga outreach programs, medical missions, feeding programs..budget para sa mga volunteers sa mga kalihokan ug uban pa..
    mass weddings and mass baptisms..

    now, kung isalig ra na sa simbahan tanan sa offerings during sa mass nga mostly mga sinsilyo ra..
    although meaningful gihapun to sila tanan pero in terms of numbers, murag dili jud musurvive ang simbahan ana bai..hehehe..

    i think natubag na imung question bai, unless naa kay follow up questions..

    natubag napud tong sibut nga question ni sam..by brackitz
    and your questions about procession bai @brackitz kay natubag napud to ni @r3roble

    pero kung gusto ka ug mabasa gikan sa Catholic encyclopedia..click the link below..

    CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Processions

    ok na siguro ta for next question?
    Last edited by noy; 06-17-2014 at 04:17 PM.

  2. #7972
    Grabeha, daghana na ani oi.. Ma buntagan man pud ta ani cge ug back read kung mao man gan ni nah. Ask na lng ko.. hehehehe

    Sa mga priest ba kay unsa tawag ana ila sweldo?

    Government Official - Honorarium
    Employee - Salary
    Priest - ??..

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    thanks bai @noy , medyo nalibat kog binasa dah pero at least naa na koy nakat-unan.

    nia akong sunod nga question, kapila man gyud ta manguros human ug ingon sa Pari nga: pagbasa kinutlo sumala ni San Mateo (o San Lucas etc).. katulo o kaupat? Naa man guy uban makita nako nga kaupat, naa say katulo ra..

  4. #7974
    Quote Originally Posted by luff101 View Post
    Grabeha, daghana na ani oi.. Ma buntagan man pud ta ani cge ug back read kung mao man gan ni nah. Ask na lng ko.. hehehehe

    Sa mga priest ba kay unsa tawag ana ila sweldo?

    Government Official - Honorarium
    Employee - Salary
    Priest - ??..
    i think stipend should be the term bro.

  5. #7975
    Quote Originally Posted by brackitz View Post
    thanks bai @noy , medyo nalibat kog binasa dah pero at least naa na koy nakat-unan.

    nia akong sunod nga question, kapila man gyud ta manguros human ug ingon sa Pari nga: pagbasa kinutlo sumala ni San Mateo (o San Lucas etc).. katulo o kaupat? Naa man guy uban makita nako nga kaupat, naa say katulo ra..
    you're welcome bro, we should make 3 little crosses each on the forehead,lips, and chest then 1 hunge(usual) sign of the cross..
    so kaupat tanan.

    it is a short prayer bai, to keep the gospel in our thoughts, in our lips and in our hearts..
    sometimes, you'd see people physically say(although di kusog) the prayer.

  6. #7976
    Ok lets give some big load of to our Guns,.
    Question: Is there salvation outside the Catholic Church?.

  7. #7977
    Haha mura man ni dejavou..bai noyctake charge lols

  8. #7978
    Quote Originally Posted by Alramzz View Post
    Ok lets give some big load of to our Guns,.
    Question: Is there salvation outside the Catholic Church?.
    salvation from your galactic hitler??

  9. #7979
    Quote Originally Posted by Alramzz View Post
    Ok lets give some big load of to our Guns,.
    Question: Is there salvation outside the Catholic Church?.
    --from the Catechism of the Catholic Church

    "Outside the Church there is no salvation"
    846 How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers? Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body:

    Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.336

    847 This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church:
    Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - those too may achieve eternal salvation
    .

    848 "Although in ways known to himself God can lead those who, through no fault of their own, are ignorant of the Gospel, to that faith without which it is impossible to please him, the Church still has the obligation and also the sacred right to evangelize all men."

    source: CCC - PART 1 SECTION 2 CHAPTER 3 ARTICLE 9 PARAGRAPH 3


    to answer your question bro, Salvation only comes through Christ alone, however He instituted His salvic works through His body, the Church therefore making the church a necessity for one's Salvation.
    This however, does not mean that only Catholics or Trinitarian Christians will be saved but it is rather a mere revelation of how we are saved through Christ.
    Salvation in its fullness is a mystery only known to God.
    and with that having been said, we can only go as far as concluding that only through Christ shall we be saved and through His Church shall we know salvation but never can we absolutely know who will and will not be saved.

    God as the supreme judge may have a way of salvation through Christ for others who are not Christians in ways and circumstances only known to Him.

    Hope this Helps
    Last edited by noy; 06-17-2014 at 11:04 PM.

  10. #7980
    also, the church does not necessarily mean the "actual" building sa simbahan jud that we go to every Sunday.

    Speaking of church, unsa may ikasulti sa RCC aning pauso nga kasal nga i held sa garden, beach, etc?
    Last edited by raissah; 06-17-2014 at 11:10 PM.

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