burn in Hell? dayun Salvation? hehehehe...
kung naa sa Hell wala nay Salvation bai..kung saved pud...wala pud nay suffering..
murag naglibog ko sa imung punto diri..paki expound daw..
you just said it bai, immoral according to the dog's standards..
what the dog does not realize is through that seemingly immoral act according to his perspectives would actually bring safety not only to people but to other dogs as well..kung and Dog naa pay kalag...basin malangit pa to siya..Lol
in the same way, you question God for allowing people to die in the flood in the days of Noah, deeming it as an immoral act..but what you do not realize is that it was actually an Indulgence, a chance of redemption.. a chance to realize what matters most..and a chance to choose Life..
why did i say a chance of Salvation? because of this verse below..
1 Peter 3:19-20
"After being made alive, he(Jesus) went and made proclamation to the imprisoned spirits to those who were disobedient long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water..
people back then were evil(Genesis 6:5, The Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intention of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.)
perhaps the only way of redeeming them is through the sting death..but what is the sting of death compared with a chance of Salvation?..a chance we never deserve in the first place.
for me, this is justice and mercy executed.
unya na paghisgut ug morality2x kung kabalo na ka mosunod sa forum rules oi...
"ang tao nga dili masaligan sa gagmay nga mga butang, hinlabing dili kasaligan sa mga dagko"...
and i see what you're doing..you're trying to lure me into your pathetic arguments just to satisfy your attention cravings...tawn pud..
thanks! but not happening..hahahaha!!!
forum rules usa dong..unya na nang uban diha..hahaha
wala ko muingon bai maruis nga wala tay know how bahin sa morality..akong punto is we do not know up to where morality extends...
we can only deem what is moral and not according to our conscience..
now can our conscience quantify God's thoughts?
mao bitaw to akong example ni bai jhared ganina...
supposed mangtas kaayo ka nga tao..and every inclination of your heart is only to do what is evil..karun kamatayon ray paagi basin makakita ka sa kaluwasan.. karun kung kuhaon ka sa Ginoo who by the way owns your Life para ka maka kuha ug chance sa kaluwasan isip indulhensiya..immoral gihapun na?
by the way, before gikuha sa Ginoo imung kinabuhi(nga hinuwaman ra)..
kapila ka gitagaan ug warnings through sa imung konsensya nga ang imung gipangbuhat or pagabuhaton kay dili jud maayo but still did otherwise anyway.. so kinsa man nang sala? sa Ginoo? or imoha?
ikaw na mismo nag ingun ana bai "na naa naman gyud lagi na sa essence sa tao, kabalo na mismo ang tao na ang pag patay is sayop gyud. na ang pang rape is sayop gyud na."
so kung kamatayun nalang ang paagi para ka maluwas isip indulhensiya..
immoral gihapun?
nganu naka ingun ko ani...basaha ang 1 Peter 3:19-20
ang mga tao nga badlungon sa panahon ni Noah although gikuha sila sa GInoo sa sakit nga paagi..mahulog to ug indulhensiya...
kay kung silot pa to...dritso na unta to sila gilabay sa impierno..ug wala na unta sila gisangyahan ni Kristo para sa ilang kaluwasan...before siya nabanhaw...
provided nga mudawat sila...
tan.aw nimu..di pa kaha sila mudawat human sa lunop ug nilibo ka tuig paghinuwat sa kaluwasan sa GInoo sa mabugnaw ug mangitngit nga dapit? hehehe
and punto ani bai..kay tuod man naay mga butang nga maka ingun ta nga sayop..pero wa jud ta kahibaw kung sayop ba jud...
mao when one concludes that God is immoral...
sama ra ka ug ninghukom ug usa ka tao sa walay insaktong kasayoran ug basi lamang sa imung kaugalingong panahom..
tawn pud, ingnan bitaw taka nga sugod usa sa ginagmay..forum rules usa unaha ug sabut Lagi...
di pa ka kasabut aning mga butanga kay pang hamtong ni ug panabut..
nagtuo siguro kag siga na kaayo ka? kay bully ka? saway2x kas among religion..sa Ginoo..ug uban pa..
honestly bai, luoy kaayo ka tan.awn diri..mura kag bata nga magsige nalang ug pang bully just to get the attention of others..so pathetic...
akong balikon ha...
"Posts should be composed in such a manner that respects persons of all races, religions, cultures, and sexualities. No post may contain personal attacks, as they have no proper place in discussions. The purpose of this forum is to facilitate growth, not to belittle others. This also applies to Private Messages and the Shoutbox entries. Attack the Opinion not the Person."
source: iSTORYA.NET - Forum Rules
hinay-hinay lang ug basa..makasabut ra lagi ka..i know you can do it! Lol
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bai @marius, ugma nalang ko motubag nimu ug tiwas ha kay mangrape este mu out nako sa office..hehehehe
i know dili ka mutuo sa akong GInoo..pero i pray that He'll bless and keep you..regards ko sa mga arabo diha...hahaha
On the contrary, he saves the sinners and those who needs saving. Lain sad ug i save ang wla manginahanglan. Kay kung ang mga nakasala iya dayung sungon, aw wa nah! empyerno na tanan kay murag kita man sigurong tanan nasala, bro.
@noy, more like refused to understand the point. Kabalo ka sa explanation sa psychology ana noy? Kanang makasugod na tag sulti sa atong stand, unya kung naay mka sita nimo unya na igo imong ego or pride or unsa panang mga naigo dha LOL, imo nlang jud padayunon and panindigan ang imong gibarugan bahalag wala na nagkademao. Naay tawag ana. Limot lang ko.
Actually, mas maayo pa nga mag presidenti si noy kasya nimo. Why? imong panan-aw sa mga butang kay anha ra tanan sa asa kutob imong makita. Kung sa problema pa nis nasud, imong solusyon kay short-term ra, and kang noy kay long-term. Dli nana nako e-explain further kay para magamit sad nimo imongutok panagsa. Kung d ka kasabot, problema nana nimo. hehehe Also, again OT na sad ka. Pero this time dli na tikaw i report kay moingon na sad kag "daghang nagdumot nimo"
Basta diayma ban, daghan nang nagdumot?
Basta diay i-report, daghang nagdumot?
Basta diay daghang wla ni-agree and wla kauyon nimo, daghan na daun nagdumot?
Usa ni sa mga proof bai nga imong pangutok tua ras banga nag kitiw2 kuyog sa mga waya2.
Basa lageg forum rules daun sabta Okay? nig makasabot na ka, unya na balik dre.
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Ug nag hinay2 na sad mog kalihis hap! OT na kaayo mo. Pang suntoyon tamo ron
Ayaw na lage ningyog tagda ang mga patagad kay wala moy ma-ani ana.
@mod, I suggest Next Question or Delete this thread just like the Atheism/Theism Thread
Last edited by raissah; 06-14-2014 at 02:08 AM.
What you are basically saying is "follow the rules/law regardless of what is right"
instead of doing what is right regardless of the rules. This is what religion is promoting - stop questioning the rules.
Bsag sayop to iyang pag insulto which is against the rules, your statement about following the rules before talking about morality is really faulty.
Speaking of rules, my response is OT, you may disregard it it's just a comment![]()
Last edited by pakinimo; 06-14-2014 at 01:56 AM.
@OT
Sa mga oppositions dre sa RCC, I suggest mag himo nlng mo ug thread nga "Atheism questions" kay we have no power here... hahahha..
nice ka, bro. okay na padulong na tas matuwid na daan ingon pang Pnoy.
kani nlang atong hisgutan oh kaysa mag lalis ug science-religion.
Maypay kanay tubagon oh unsay gipangbuhat sa vatican para ma reprimand ni sila or kung mahimo ma stop ning mga issue about bayot2 nga pari, corrupt2x sa simbahan, etc. Kay btaw jud, nadaot jud ang RCC ani tungod aning mga issueha. basta lage bayoton ang pari kay dli jud malikayan nga maka binuang ang mga tawo (mga katoliko na nga mga friends nako ha) nga makaingon "agoy human kang sakristana ka"
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