The Roman Catholic Church~ Questions

[noy]

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Kita mga taw bai Slabdans, bisan sa atoang level of thinking, gi consider na nato nga immoral nga sunugon nato ang taw or hatolan ug death sentence kong makasala,. pero sa iyang balaod sakto na..

kung mao nay imung opinion bai jhared.. aw imoha pud na..
pero tungod kay opinion man, possible pud nga sayop..hehehe

preha gud anang muingon ta sa usa ka tao nga bati ug batasan but it turned out nga wala ra diay ta kasabut sa iya, lahi atong moral standards sa iya...or we're just not able to see the fullness of that person's intention or plan...

before we conclude that God is immoral because it's how we see Him through Biblical narratives esp in the OT..
we must ask ourselves, how much do we know about morality?
can we quantify God's thoughts?
do we know the absolute reasons and results of God's acts?

say for example the people that died in the Genesis flood,
suppose Death would have been the only indulgence those people might have..
meaning only through Death that those poor souls might have a chance for salvation?
esp that OT times hasn't reached the messianic age yet..
can we be certain that God's act in the days of Noah is immoral in absolute terms?

by just looking at the cross, without the undrstanding of messianic and salvic works of Christ, the atonement for sins..anyone can question why would a loving God allow such things to happen to His only begotten Son.

remember when Peter said He would not allow Jesus to see death?
then Jesus rebuked Peter for saying such things? Jesus even called peter satan(adversary).. for thinking thoughts of men rather than of God..
Peter was of course just concern..genuinely concern if may add..
but it doesn't necessarily mean he was right in absolute terms..
for If God's moral perspectives would have the same with ours..
Jesus wouldn't have died on the cross..and we would never have had the chance of salvation..
point is, the moral perspectives of God and man are eternally distant..
so why conclude God's moral standards using our human perspectives when we can never really arrive at a definite conclusion?

one proof that God's will is always good and by good, it doesn't necessarily have to be based from our perspective of good..would be through the struggles and challenges that we have to face in this lifetime..
with our human eyes..we can ask, why would a loving God allow this?
we wouldn't have definite answers but we know this for sure..
if not for the hardships, struggles and pains..we wouldn't have known maturity, patience and this life's hardest and toughest lessons.

when we say God is this or that..it would be like concluding the world is just as big as far as the eyes could see.. the basis would be realistic but not necessarily correct.

i think kapila na ta nag istorya bahin aning mga butanga..hehehe
so i'm not entirely sure if we should still pursue this..

i think mas maayo if mag next question ta.. hehe

[noy]

ang tinod anay na impyerno mao ni ang kainiton na nasinati nato karon sa kalibutan hahahhahah...

i hope ingun ana lang unta bai kay pwede ra imnan ug bugnaw nga beer.. LOL

[Alramzz]

ang tinod anay na impyerno mao ni ang kainiton na nasinati nato karon sa kalibutan hahahhahah...

plus walay beer og walay aircon.. and you will be there for eternity.. for atheist question lang,. WHAT IF hell is True? didn't you reflect about it a bit?, its not a laughing matter when it comes to eternity,. being a believer has anything to gain, whether afterlife is true or not,. but being outside the light is everything to lose..

[noy]

plus walay beer og walay aircon.. and you will be there for eternity.. for atheist question lang,. WHAT IF hell is True? didn't you reflect about it a bit?, its not a laughing matter when it comes to eternity,. being a believer has anything to gain, whether afterlife is true or not,. but being outside the light is everything to lose..

brader, murag mu ignite na pud ning atheism/theism debate ana diri..LOL
unya ma OT na ta..hehehehe

sige lang, for sure naghuna-huna pud na sila oi..mao lang jud nay natugpahan sa ilang consensya...
i ampo nalang nato sila..

[slabdans]

You believe in god but your not practicing it? wala nimo siya simbaha? then you are a fluke, you are a sinner.. wala nkay kompisal2, nagpundo nana imong mga sala..



Haha.. joining is easy letting go is much harder.. no thanks, been there done that,..



Ok

unsa may naa kung dili ko mo kompisal sa mga alagad sa simbahan...lahos2x ni ako direkta sa Ginoo, aw kung ma empyerno gyud kung way swerte oks ra gihapon...mag tagay ming satanas didto, way siguro pulihan pa nako siya sa iyang pwesto

concerned lagi ka bro? hehehe imo kung luwason nga dili ma impyerno? Lols

[noy]

OT mu oi! LOL

[Light_Of_Heaven]

WHAT IF hell is True? didn't you reflect about it a bit?, its not a laughing matter when it comes to eternity,. being a believer has anything to gain, whether afterlife is true or not,. but being outside the light is everything to lose..

walay effect na sa amoa...halos tanang religion naay reward(heaven) og pang-hadlok(hell)...kung wala ni nga formula, walay mo-apil sa kulto...

kung wa ka mahadlok sa impyerno sa hindu...mas labaw ming wa mahadlok sa imong version nga impyerno..


aside sa immoral na, wa pa jud nay ebedensya nga tinood na.

we're on the right track baby

[noy]

ingnan bitaw ta ka bro @Alramzz...LOL

sige na, next question.

[noy]

walay effect na sa amoa...halos tanang religion naay reward(heaven) og pang-hadlok(hell)...kung wala ni nga formula, walay mo-apil sa kulto...

kung wa ka mahadlok sa impyerno sa hindu...mas labaw ming wa mahadlok sa imong version nga impyerno..


aside sa immoral na, wa pa jud nay ebedensya nga tinood na.

we're on the right track baby

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naa pa kay pa right track-right track ug moral2x diha nga ultimo simple forum rules di ka ka gets..LOL

[NapoleonBlownapart]

Kita mga taw bai Slabdans, bisan sa atoang level of thinking, gi consider na nato nga immoral nga sunugon nato ang taw or hatolan ug death sentence kong makasala,. pero sa iyang balaod sakto na..

hahaha.. swak kaau ni sa Job chapter 38 - 40.. “Who is this that obscures my plans with words without knowledge?" ug tapuson ug “Would you discredit my justice? Would you condemn me to justify yourself? Do you have an arm like God’s, and can your voice thunder like his? Then adorn yourself with glory and splendor, and clothe yourself in honor and majesty. Unleash the fury of your wrath, look at all who are proud and bring them low, look at all who are proud and humble them, crush the wicked where they stand. Bury them all in the dust together; shroud their faces in the grave. Then I myself will admit to you that your own right hand can save you.