FREE MASONRY - the Principles

[demolay]

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i'm very sorry if that was your impression of our great fraternity but thanks for the change of heart.

[ej___]

agree but you ask so many questions, you are never satisfied. like i said, you have to seek it with passion and without fear.

if you doubt it then back off. freemasonry will be better off without your kind.

I respect your kind opinion bro. But, if this is how a member of a respected organization answers and insults an aspirant, i would rather not join and be like one.

I am trying to ask questions and seek answers with passion on this thread. I have no fear on all my quires just to know and be satisfied with some knowledgeable answers. As i've said, i don't like to try shabu to know its effects. So as, i don't like my children to take shabu to know its effects. Unless one is too dumb and doesn't know anything of which he likes to join just for the sake of joining without any purpose at all. Or maybe, your not the right and knowledgeable person to answer all the quiries an aspirant might have in mind. A good and convincing answer might encourage some aspirants who respected such a big and successful organization.

Well anyway, the truth will always be the truth. There's no point in hiding it if there's no such bad thing about the truth. Kaso lang, questions are answered with another question. Some, doesn't simply answer it but rather react negatively. There's a BIG question mark on why there's no direct and simple answer on all these but instead, argues arises and not enlightenment.

Why then?

[eXstAsSy]

I respect your kind opinion bro. But, if this is how a member of a respected organization answers and insults an aspirant, i would rather not join and be like one.

I am trying to ask questions and seek answers with passion on this thread. I have no fear on all my quires just to know and be satisfied with some knowledgeable answers. As i've said, i don't like to try shabu to know its effects. So as, i don't like my children to take shabu to know its effects. Unless one is too dumb and doesn't know anything of which he likes to join just for the sake of joining without any purpose at all. Or maybe, your not the right and knowledgeable person to answer all the quiries an aspirant might have in mind. A good and convincing answer might encourage some aspirants who respected such a big and successful organization.

Well anyway, the truth will always be the truth. There's no point in hiding it if there's no such bad thing about the truth. Kaso lang, questions are answered with another question. Some, doesn't simply answer it but rather react negatively. There's a BIG question mark on why there's no direct and simple answer on all these but instead, argues arises and not enlightenment.

Why then?

LOL! its not the questions. Its the way you are asking the questions. Its obvious that you want to get soemthing off your chest. Did a lodge reject your application? I would not be surprised.

Remember theres a way to ask a question.Its not always what you say but how you say it. In your case you need something from us or want to make us look like what YOU think we should. Hiding? LOL! scroll back and look for a ritual i posted. That should give you an idea about the Masonic Family's motives.

The Masonic family does not need someone with your attitude. We respect what you believe in and we do not ask question that mock your beliefs... we hope you could do the same.

Why? Did it ever occur to you that an aspiring member doest just make himself a member. One simply has to go thru alot of stuff to be there. Its the initiate who wants to join and not the other way around.

Freemasonry is far more superior than you can imagine. I may be reading your queries the wrong way cause from this view it looks like your not asking these questions to get info... what are you trying to come up with? A worthy aspirant would approach a brother personally.

FreeMasons are Free thinkers. It is not charitable organization or a religion and They do not mock what you belive in just to feel good about themselves. Dont they deserve to be treated the same way?

And one more thing. Freemasons do not just accept you when you "Knock". Your name will be published thru Masonic bulletins in your country and around the world. THEY choose if you are worthy or not. One Mason saying no will mean NO. Hope this clears things out.

[abuot]

[ej___]

Hmmm . . Peace bro. Stay cool. Ato lang tagsa-tagsaon to clear things out. :mrgreen:

1. "its not the questions. Its the way you are asking the questions." - Am i asking harshly? or wala juy tubag.
2. "Its obvious that you want to get soemthing off your chest." - Nope. Sayop ka bro. I just want some answers not for anybody but just for myself, a nobody in this world.
3. A lodge rejected my application? No. I even didn't knocked Free Masons doors as what you've stated nor somebody approached me about it.
4. what are you trying to come up with? Nothing. I'm just trying to ask simple questions for me or anybody to ponder on what good can it do to me or anybody who would knock or who would be chosen to become one.
5. "A worthy aspirant would approach a brother personally." - Maybe not all of the members are that appealing to be approached. If only lang that they are that good, i'm not on this forum unta. Thats why, i came very interested to join this forum and brought some silly questions as the way you view it.
6. "FreeMasons are Free thinkers. It is not charitable organization or a religion and They do not mock what you belive in just to feel good about themselves. Dont they deserve to be treated the same way?" - Does my search for answers mocks the Organization? Sorry if sayop imohang pagsabot bro. Actually, I'm not asking about the Org's beliefs. I do respect the Organization. No question about that.
7. "And one more thing. Freemasons do not just accept you when you "Knock". Your name will be published thru Masonic bulletins in your country and around the world. THEY choose if you are worthy or not. One Mason saying no will mean NO. Hope this clears things out" - I don't have problem with this.
8. "Remember theres a way to ask a question.Its not always what you say but how you say it. In your case you need something from us or want to make us look like what YOU think we should." - lets have it this way, why not you rephrase my question the way you want it and answer it bro. Basin lang ug dili ko kahibaw mangutana ba. And sayop tanan every word in it.
9. "Hiding? LOL! scroll back and look for a ritual i posted. That should give you an idea about the Masonic Family's motives." - Kapoy ug scroll back bro, kapoy pud ug basa. It's nice to have an interaction. Dili pa boring. And i expected to find direct answers.
10. "Freemasonry is far more superior than you can imagine." - I don't have problem with this.
11. "I may be reading your queries the wrong way cause from this view it looks like your not asking these questions to get info..." - you are reading and accepting it the wrong way. I am asking these questions to get info so as i could manage myself to decide whats best. Or, basin lang pud nga dili puede mangutana. If that would be the case, that would always be a big question mark kung ngano.
12. "Hope this clears things out." - for myself alone, all statements here wouldn't clear anything. Unless, naa lay tubag sa ako mga pangutana. That simple. I was asking man gani kung puede e-PM nalang unta kung kinsa to ang capable to share and answer my innocent minds queries. I would be glad to interact with open mind and heart just to have some answers.

Nice interaction and inputs bro. :mrgreen:

[zhero_id]

got a friend nga demolay, and bagay kaayo sa iya name kay d man pod cya mo uli.

[radiostar]

na.a ko friend na demolay... -- pangutan.on nako siya unsa na about ang demolay... mo ana ra siya "no squeeling" (sak2 bah spelling?)

[Archer sensAtion]

na.a ko friend na demolay... -- pangutan.on nako siya unsa na about ang demolay... mo ana ra siya "no squeeling" (sak2 bah spelling?)

sa ako nalang ask nick...hehehe DeMolay man ko...btaw kapoyan nako cgi tubag sa mga questions unya dili ra gihapon ta tuho-an pagka kapoi...

[radiostar]

sa ako nalang ask nick...hehehe DeMolay man ko...btaw kapoyan nako cgi tubag sa mga questions unya dili ra gihapon ta tuho-an pagka kapoi...

yeah... migo man mi hunat... jonathan bah... du.ol rami balay niya... nindot discpilina demolay... idol

[dieseldust]

i explain kuno ni bai if true or chismis ra ba ni..medyo taas lang kau! hhehe

http://www.cuttingedge.org/free15.htm