Muscle Building and Fat Loss

[Cyrenz]

yeah. that's him. hahahahahha. that guy is awesome. he started the whole "aesthetic" movement. encouraged it. motivated it. and people followed. we are his "sons" so to speak if you're into aesthetics.
being and turning into ALPHA MALES. leaders of the pack. top of the food chain.


i would love to start something like that. but i don't have the "body" for it yet. it's kind of against my dogma to start something like that when i have like a 20%+ BF right now. i feel like someone that should start something like that is someone who IS "aesthetic". hehe you're more aesthetic than i am. but maybe one day? hehehe. plus i have a LOT of priorities. being aesthetic is far from my list of priorities. and i feel like a "leader" of such a movement. even here in Cebu - needs to dedicate themselves to any type of "movement" it's just my personal feeling "show before you speak" and at the moment I AM FAR FROM AESTHETIC. LOL!

"WE'RE ALL GONNA GET SHREDDED BRUHHH"


"Everybody, one day will die, and be forgetton. Act and behave in a way that will make life interesting and fun, **** a mundane predictable life working monday to friday with something you derive no pleasure from; just living life out till you grow old and wither away. Find a passion, form relationships, dont be afraid to get out there and **** what everyone else thinks, trust me its alot more fun that way.
Dont ever pay people out or put people down. Instead just put yourself up and let the haters do their thing. Id rather be a person thats hated on, than a person that does the hating. A wise man one said..
Haters gonna hate! "

I only know a little about Zyzz, he is an internet/social media sensation right? What i've read is that he died in a sauna in thailand. Some claim that he died because of roids, that he didn't have discipline during the later part of his life and partied almost all night? Im not sure if this is true, please enlighten me with this. The guy got a great physique but i think his physique can be acheived naturally. Aesthetics wise, i find timberwolf aka kane sumabat more appealing in my opinion(also he is a pure filipino) my ideal physique would be that of kane or miguel valenzuela aka Vtech(half pinoy).

With regards to the movement you are planning, i think you can start/lead it sir. Time is so valuable, it is better to start it sooner than later. Anyways, we all have the same goal which is self-improvement...

P.S. im far from aesthetic bro, my genetic makeup is mediocre, but i didn't consider it as an excuse to reach my goal.

[jaeahr]

I only know a little about Zyzz, he is an internet/social media sensation right? What i've read is that he died in a sauna in thailand. Some claim that he died because of roids, that he didn't have discipline during the later part of his life and partied almost all night? Im not sure if this is true, please enlighten me with this. The guy got a great physique but i think his physique can be acheived naturally. Aesthetics wise, i find timberwolf aka kane sumabat more appealing in my opinion(also he is a pure filipino) my ideal physique would be that of kane or miguel valenzuela aka Vtech(half pinoy).

With regards to the movement you are planning, i think you can start/lead it sir. Time is so valuable, it is better to start it sooner than later. Anyways, we all have the same goal which is self-improvement...

yup. that's all true. steroids or not. partying or not. and i dont mean to make any excuses for the guy. but he still had to put in the work at the gym. and still had to eat properly. oh and yeah. his physique can DEFINITELY be achieved naturally. just going to take a long time. i think that's the best part =) also the accomplishment that you did it "natty"

again. i dont condone anabolic roids or the use of it. but i'm not against anyone that does it.

about the movement. i could definitely start it and lead it. it's just not my time. i have standards/dogma i live by and wake up to every morning. who are we without standards =)

my time will come. it's just not here yet. hehe. sorry for the late reply. had to search who those people were. this is my opinion though. that miguel valenzuela guy looks like he uses GH. it's hard to be BIG and SHREDDED. but again. i don't care more power to him. and i'm sure he doesn't care of my opinion either. hahahaha. it's hard to be "AESTHETICALLY BIG" naturally. but that's just my opinion. i asked my best friend to take a look at him. and he said he looks natural. so that just goes to show you "what do i know"
he said he's awesomely big but not shredded. to define "shredded" i mean 6-8% body fat.


edit:
just did a quick background info on him. he's still young. tall. and been working out for YEARS. i guess he is natural? more power to him. he looks great though. but i plan to get "shredded" which is the whole point of aesthetics.then again i haven't seen all his pics or what he looks like during competition or his BF during competition.

edit 2:
just googled that Kane guy. SUPER MIRIN' that's nice!


it's also another thing of mine to not compare myself to other people. i like to think of myself as the "general population" i don't have access to all the supplements. sponsors. coaches they do. most of us don't.
which is why when i do give someone advice it's from the "general population" stand point. we also have lives outside the gym. unless of course you compete professionally etc. but these guys look great nonetheless.

[Cyrenz]

yup. that's all true. steroids or not. partying or not. and i dont mean to make any excuses for the guy. but he still had to put in the work at the gym. and still had to eat properly. oh and yeah. his physique can DEFINITELY be achieved naturally. just going to take a long time. i think that's the best part =) also the accomplishment that you did it "natty"

again. i dont condone anabolic roids or the use of it. but i'm not against anyone that does it.

about the movement. i could definitely start it and lead it. it's just not my time. i have standards/dogma i live by and wake up to every morning. who are we without standards =)

my time will come. it's just not here yet. hehe. sorry for the late reply. had to search who those people were. this is my opinion though. that miguel valenzuela guy looks like he uses GH. it's hard to be BIG and SHREDDED. but again. i don't care more power to him. and i'm sure he doesn't care of my opinion either. hahahaha. it's hard to be "AESTHETICALLY BIG" naturally.

I agree with you sir regaring AAS, most of the general public thinks that AAS is a magic pill. A gur using AAS still needs to bust ass in the gym, making nutrition and recovery dialled in to achieve optimal results. Im not against AAS also, as what ive read and told, it is not as dangerous as what the media promoted it to be. the misuse and abuse is what makes it fatal. I know a guy who cycled, but didn't even know what PCT is.

btw, miguel valenzuela is not that huge sir. Im not sure he is natural though, but im inclined to him being natty. he is training for more than 10 years i think. he is a smart guy, he played cameo roles here in the Phils before.

[jaeahr]

I agree with you sir regaring AAS, most of the general public thinks that AAS is a magic pill. A gur using AAS still needs to bust ass in the gym, making nutrition and recovery dialled in to achieve optimal results. Im not against AAS also, as what ive read and told, it is not as dangerous as what the media promoted it to be. the misuse and abuse is what makes it fatal. I know a guy who cycled, but didn't even know what PCT is.

btw, miguel valenzuela is not that huge sir. Im not sure he is natural though, but im inclined to him being natty. he is training for more than 10 years i think. he is a smart guy, he played cameo roles here in the Phils before.

yeah. i went back and edited my posts a couple times after i found out more information on him. yeah. people abusing things is what usually gives it a bad name. i've seen what steroids do to people. everyone i know that has used it. regrets it in the end though. so i stay away from the stuff. especially when it reaches sports

it's one thing to use steroids for yourself ( body building ). no one gets hurt except yourself obviously. but when it's being used in a certain sports ( ie: MMA ). it becomes a problem. i think it's probably the main reason i don't like steroids. as far as use goes.

[Cyrenz]

yeah. i went back and edited my posts a couple times after i found out more information on him. yeah. people abusing things is what usually gives it a bad name. i've seen what steroids do to people. everyone i know that has used it. regrets it in the end though. so i stay away from the stuff. especially when it reaches sports

it's one thing to use steroids for yourself ( body building ). no one gets hurt except yourself obviously. but when it's being used in a certain sports ( ie: MMA ). it becomes a problem. i think it's probably the main reason i don't like steroids. as far as use goes.

I know guys who use AAS, some are very well educated on how to properly use it. The other half, are just purely BROscience. I have a gym mate who uses it and i pity him. i tried my best to tell him what i know about it but he just shrugged it off. He didn't listen to me because he is 100x better than me.

[jaeahr]

I know guys who use AAS, some are very well educated on how to properly use it. The other half, are just purely BROscience. I have a gym mate who uses it and i pity him. i tried my best to tell him what i know about it but he just shrugged it off. He didn't listen to me because he is 100x better than me.

hehehe. that's how it usually goes. all you can do is. let him be. and focus on yourself =)
the more we focus on ourselves in the gym. the more satisfaction we get from the most important person. the guy in the mirror.

[nzo]

just looked up this miguel valenzuela and he does look natural, hell he reminds me of my training partner who aesthetically looked similar just a little short of miguel's size ...if only he listened to my constant reminder to EAT goddamnit right @naturalfreakcy !!? lol --> how is singapore dude!!

[nzo]

just sharing a little throwback from the other thread, credits to the photographer Ulrich Oehmen who took the picture...

i think this was taken before or after the 2010 Asia-Pacific Competition, dri jud ni sa cebu gi kuha

our very own spartans!!!! whahaha

[nzo]

sharing another throwback from the other thread, reminiscing the good old days...

10-01-2012, 05:31 PM
5'3"1/2 @180lbs taken at WFC Banilad locker room ----> thats a $hitload of fats on me whahaha

then after a few dozen eggs, chicken breasts, vein bursting workouts with godlike willpower...
taken today 11.15.12 10:53am

still a very long way to go but I only have barely 2 weeks left... but i will be heavier and bigger this time
abs not clearly visible so ill just be coming in heavier and let us see what i can do in the next 2 remaining weeks...

[fred1981]

@nzo, nganung good old days man, kung ibalik diay ang good old days?hahahaha