Pope Francis versus The Vatican

[chrisvil]

Ug mao ning istoriaha palpak ang infallibility sa pope ani .. madugay ning catholico mabungkad ... pope ray maka ingon ... mayrapud

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mo comment ko ani ha .. puros ni mga bug-at nga sala way mapili ...

Brader pila na ka century ang Katoliko niining kalibutana, niagi na ug mga kangitngit ang simbahan pero anaa gihapon. Dako kaayo ko'g respeto ani na relihiyon bisan BURN AGAINST ko...

[chrisvil]

pax vestra revertetur ad vos

[NapoleonBlownapart]

Brader pila na ka century ang Katoliko niining kalibutana, niagi na ug mga kangitngit ang simbahan pero anaa gihapon. Dako kaayo ko'g respeto ani na relihiyon bisan BURN AGAINST ko...

weh istoryahe.. haha..

[MollyMillions]

pax vestra revertetur ad vos

et quoque apud te...


credits to : google translate =)

ONT : On Papal Infallibility:

Most people interpret it to mean that the Pope think he is perfect. It does not mean that a pope cannot err when he speaks as a private teacher.

Basically it just means that the Pope is like the Supreme Court of the Catholic Church. If there is a position he needs to choose between two options, and he decides on one, then that is what his decision is.

More info here:

Top 10 Misconceptions About The Catholic Church - Listverse

[mr_kyme]

Ayaw e close nice ni nga Thread .. wala may nag lalis diri nag share raman ug thoughts ...

Nice pud ni nga thread aron ma aware sab tang mga Catholico nga naay tay Doctrina nga Tumanon nga dapat studyhan kay mura raba pud ni ug Bible taas2x jud.

mao na ang mga conservative Catholics against aning Pope ... the pope matud pa kay nahilayo na ang Original Christ Founded Church kay mura na ug naghimo ug Man-Made Catholic Church ... kay matud pa daw si Christo walay kausaban gahapon, karon ug sa katapusan ... so dili puede e equate ang 21st century sa na established na nga Simbahan ni Christo.

But ang ang Liberal Catholics mostly katong dili fundamentalist or sa akong sabot katong dili jud familiar sa Catholics Doctrine kay uyon kaau ni Pope Francis anang style niya mao na kahadlokan sa conservative maguba jud ning Catholico ...

Ako2x rani ha ... walay palang diha ...

Im once a Catholic and i study anang Catechism and i also study the Bible base sa akong nasabtan naa jud problem nang duha dili mag match .....

No. This thread deserves to close ky bisan pa-storyahon nimo ang mga conservatives or mga atheist or ka-pareho ra na-religion, it will end up endless thought ky lain2x ug huna2x ang mga tawo, it will lead into arguing til it will come into hatred. Many people here I'm sure will against of this and that, ok ra unta kun dili religion ang topic ky walay possible ma offend. Some people ma offend sa ilang faith kun ma ka basa sa inyong thoughts. And I don't know what's on ur side or ur thoughts. Just keep it what's yours cause ur already telling them or let them realize that they were wrong and u were right or u should be right, ur post might lead into arguing instead. Yeah this is Istorya where we are free to express, but I think it's not good to talk & throw negatives words sa ilang pag tou cause ma offend cla in the end. It's not good right? Ur thoughts is urs, and they should also respect what's urs. Cause u have ur own and they have their own too. We were born in different & made different. Lahi2x pd ta ideology cause lahi2x ta na agian sa past. We came up this thoughts because we grow in different lifestyle, some were free and some are grown into decent family that they think they should be respected cause of what their family believe. Lain2x ta gipa dako, so ilang thinking It's impossible na magka pareha ta ug huna2x o mo tou ko nmo. Labi na they believe u na tawo raka and possible na sayup ra sad ka. ^_^ So in ur future post telling this and that might possible na naay ma offend. Especially religion inyo topic. Just let them think what they really believe, anyway wla man cla nangaway pd nmo. If ur intentions is to share ur thoughts, just keep it nalang cause our topic is about religion cause I'm sure mag war2x napud mo diri. We all deserves to be respected, and free to think kn unsay naa sa atong huna2x? ^_^

Pope didn't apologize sa iyang na sulti about never in the history sukad pagpatong niya, only those sexual abuse issues. Cause all he says is gi-studyhan na. He is searching a way na mapa lapit ang mga tawo ni God ug mo balik ni God. Na mis-interpret lang ninyo na ni lapas na sya sa Catholic etc or kn ig-ana bah inyong thoughts. I read from the previous post that Pope is wla cya alam kn ma luwas bah ang tawo or not. Off-course wla cyay alam especially he is just only a human like us. It's just he only knows how to pray and realize on what's bad and good as what Jesus did before, gipa kita ra na niya na mao ni sala ug dili, gipa kita rana nya kn mag binot-an ka, imong kalag naay pa-ingnan. Wla na cya ni sulti na ma langit ka igka matay nmo. And Pope didn't tell you to beleive him and praise him etc or do this and do that, u guys only listen to him and give ur attention to him. Pra ma iwas lang ang pag interpret ninyo, If u dnt like it don't listen to it or put ur self attention to him. Wla man cya nanawag ninyo, kamo raman ang ni tutok niya & naminaw niya. U don't like it, so don't react or listen to it. Let him be, if lain ang inyong pag tou niya or pag interprete na sa usa ka Pope now a days. Leave it. just mind on ur own instead throwing words on what on ur thoughts that could call a negative attention to the people who might have been mis-interprete ur thoughts. Ignore it. Pope is trying to seacrh a modern way na ma lapit niya ang mga tawo ni Lord. He is searching a way na ang mga tawo mo ila pa ni Lord.
I believe Jesus is very proud of him. I'm sure.

Again, Im just sad of what TS have started. The people here reacts in different thoughts that it leads into hatred.
Why TS u started to question about Pope and the Vatican. Why ur bother much about it, and u give it a big deal and made a deep issue. TS. I just don't like what you've started. You lead the people to express their negative side about religion.

Who ever read this thread, hope they won't mis-interpret the Pope and the Roman Catholic. Some posters are just expressing their thoughts cause they have been this and that until they have think their own points of views.

[amingb]

ako katoliko manko...pero karon pako kabaw nga ang dili mag pa membro sa RC dili ma langit..murag sukad wala judko kadungog nga naay nagsulti nako ana...hinoon wala mansad ko nag katekista...

Prior sa Vatican II mao na ang Stand sa Catholic Church .. siguro kay sila may Church nga naka una ug tukod basin mao na ilaha thinking but sa Vatican II na gi usab napud nila maluwas na tanan basta search lang ni God bisan pa Muslim ug Non Catholic ug mga Ignorant ....

Inig Vatican III napud siguro basin mo ingon napud mga Atheist maluwas na bisan supak sa Ginoo ...

I Think an dating daan sa Catholic dili jud mausab kay lig-on kaau ang mga Conservative nga naa sa Vatican ...

[amingb]

Katong hadlok ani nga thread kay mo laban mo ni Pope ... Please read pud sa side sa mga Conservative Catholics why nga supak sila sa mga buhat ni Pope ? ....

This a big concern pud biya sa Roman Catholic Church mura ni siya ug Lets Ready To Ramble is a Showdown of the Roman Catholic Church ... nindot tan-awon mura ug packaw vs bradley ....

Ang mga dili concern sa Tradition and Doctrine sa Roman Catholic mo ingon raman mo nga Okay si Pope .. pero ang mga Conservative supak ana .... isa raman jud ang issue ang ilah concern kay ang mga Revolutionary Message ni Pope kay wala nagasubay sa Teaching sa Roman Catholic ...

[MollyMillions]

One thing I would encourage any one to do regardless of the doctrine they follow, Is to be open minded and continually seek, get familiar with the doctrines and don't hesitate to ask the ones who are supposed to know about it.

In the case of Roman Catholics, to ask their priests or bishops, And at the same time, challenge these beliefs and doctrines.

Matud pa ni 1 John 4 (NIV)

4 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

[amingb]

One thing I would encourage any one to do regardless of the doctrine they follow, Is to be open minded and continually seek, get familiar with the doctrines and don't hesitate to ask the ones who are supposed to know about it.

In the case of Roman Catholics, to ask their priests or bishops, And at the same time, challenge these beliefs and doctrines.

Matud pa ni 1 John 4 (NIV)

4 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

Sakto jud na nga Quote mam .. before ta mo tuo kinahanglan tan-awon sa nato ug sakto ba ... dili lang pa uto2x ...

[MenSana]

Sakto jud na nga Quote mam .. before ta mo tuo kinahanglan tan-awon sa nato ug sakto ba ... dili lang pa uto2x ...

Amen to this! Believer, non-believer, and Justin Bieber.