Pope Francis versus The Vatican

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Ug mao ning istoriaha palpak ang infallibility sa pope ani .. madugay ning catholico mabungkad ... pope ray maka ingon ... mayrapud

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mo comment ko ani ha .. puros ni mga bug-at nga sala way mapili ...

There is no ''palpak'' if one wishes for the godliness and betterment of humanity,
it will never go against GOD's will.


Then for the sala let me me enumerate in my most ''penobre''
way.

Christians with independent
understanding about the term salvation in the bible.
Luwas na ta kay giluwas na ta ni Jesus Christ.

Can make sins and create crimes against
fellow human beings thinking that they are already saved.
Rapist,slanderer, pickockets, etc, would still go to heaven only if they should believe.


Atheist who is a law abiding citizen
and who considers the rights of fellow human beings.
Sin committed: Did not believe in God for reasons of lacking physical proof.

Then for the above enumeration,
mangutana ko nimo asa man ang bug-at, nagnong nakaingon man ka
nga pareho?

In my own personal view mas kuyawan pa ko makigkuyog ug christian nga naay interpretation
nga save na ta kaysa anang atheist nga maayo ug binuhatan. Puwede kaayo ni nga Christian
mo-huna2x nga hold upon ko ning tawhana, gisalbar na bitaw ko ni Jesus Christ.
Unhealthy na inyong interpretation uy pang-abusar man na ang inyo sa gugma sa Ginoo,
maorag inyo man hinoon gihimo ang Ginoo nga instant resolve sa mga ngil-ad ninyo nga binuhatan.

[PS02]

You can bundle salvation together with heaven, hell, eternal life, and God. These what keeps religious people on their knees.

Good deed has nothing to do with religion, but the presence of EMPATHY.

[john_24]

This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church: Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience—those too may achieve eternal salvation. this is from the cathecism of the catholic church.. so pope francis is right on track!

[amingb]

Mas sueto paman ni sila sa Vatican grabi maka defend ... wa diya mo kabalo nga ang Doctrina sa Catholico nga ang maluwas ang membro ra .. its not a joke ...

Ug mosupak mos Doctina sa Catholico pamalhin nalang mo .. ayaw mo ug buot2x ug inyoha doctrina ....

Mas maau pa maghimo ug ug inyohang Vatican of The Philippines .... naay example nga church ana ang Aglipay gusto mo catholico pero dili gusto pa under sa Vatican ....

[amingb]

Mao na makaingon ko palpak kay What is papal infallibility ? sa ako sabot its a Dogma sa Catholic a belief that the Pope cannot be wrong when he teaches a doctrine on faith or morals to his people or the Catholic Church.

But sa situation karon nga nahisupak sa Dogma ang gipanulti ni Pope ... mao na naka ingon ko maguba ning Simbahan Catholico ..

[MollyMillions]

True that @amingb

There is a reason why the Catholic Church conducts baptism nga baby pa lang ang tawo and its precisely bec of that.

As per Wiki : Infant baptism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The instruction then gave guidelines for pastoral practice, based on two principles. The major principle is that baptism, as the sign and means of God's love that precedes any action on our part and that frees from original sin and communicates divine life, must not be delayed. The subordinate principle is that assurances must be given that the gift thus granted can grow by authentic education in the faith and Christian life. If these assurances are not really serious, there can be grounds for delaying baptism. If they are certainly absent, the sacrament should even be refused.^[32]


I don't see it as biblical as well. To add, it is mostly bec of tradition...

[amingb]

Daghan sab Catholico Wa sab ni sila kabalo anang transubstantiation. Sige ug pangalawat unya wa kabalo sa ilaha gipangalawat ...

Matod pa ang meaning anang Doctrinaha nga ang lawas ni Christ nahimong tinod-anay nga Flesh as in Flesh ...

[amingb]

True that @amingb

There is a reason why the Catholic Church conducts baptism nga baby pa lang ang tawo and its precisely bec of that.

As per Wiki : Infant baptism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The instruction then gave guidelines for pastoral practice, based on two principles. The major principle is that baptism, as the sign and means of God's love that precedes any action on our part and that frees from original sin and communicates divine life, must not be delayed. The subordinate principle is that assurances must be given that the gift thus granted can grow by authentic education in the faith and Christian life. If these assurances are not really serious, there can be grounds for delaying baptism. If they are certainly absent, the sacrament should even be refused.^[32]

I don't see it as biblical as well. To add, it is mostly bec of tradition...

Ug mao na reason pangagpas lang i think mura ug dili ... kay naa man bag-o Doctrina sa Catholic nga ang Infant mamatay mo ad2 nas Heaven dili na sa Limbo .... balik ko post ani sorry

[MollyMillions]

Importante sad gyud nang susihon sad imong pagtoo para malamdagan tah pag ayu. Pero kng walay panahon ang tawo, depende na na nila. Sila ang mag-igo =)

I try to be as open minded as I can, lisud na masayup ug sayup ta and magpadayun nga sayup. =)

[amingb]

Ug lahi rapud ang Baptism sa Bible kay lahi ug meaning .... aron ma born again ang tawo .. sa ato pa katong mga Matured na nga makakasala ...