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  1. #131

    naa jud na usahay bro nga mo react ang karaan nga paint sa primer.. sakto rana imong g buhat nga lihaan ug balik then prime balik... mahitabo sd na usahay kng dugay kaau ma uga ang paint nya mka react na nuon sa underlying nga old paint...

  2. #132
    @ giron29: unsa na status sa imong L200, bai? asa naka dapit sa painting process? kay naa koy classic na Mercedes-Benz mana body repair og ako gatira sa painting.

    Mao ni akong paagi ha, (ayaw lang sunod kon 'di ka cgurado)

    1.) Akong gi-buhat ky strip to metal kay kinahanglan jud ni na process kay;
    -dugay na kaau ang paint nya acrylic ang basecoat
    -og gusto nako urethane kay lig-on bisan paso-an nimo og sigarilyo kadiyot 'di sya dayon malanay.
    I got about 4 gallons of paint remover for the whole car,a big paint brush about 6" wide,knife putties 3 ang 6 inches, gloves na igo ma-cover imong half sa akong arms and googles basin mo-talsik sa imong mata,(if you work indoors, wear a respirator kay ang paint remover contains acid, pero naa ko gawas nag-work). Apply 1 panel at a time then cover the applied portion with a big plastic cover para ma-maximize ang effect ang paint remover and balik after an hour or so and hinay-hinay og kis-kis sa old paint apila sab ang old body filler. I did on ther parts on the car. (This step involves a lot of labor pero hinay-hinay lang gud ayaw pag-apurado)

    2.) next, liha using very course grit paper like 36 or 60 grit the whole car, then apply anti-corrosion, ang ako, apply una ko 2k (2 component) etch primer, thin coat lang then the green anti-corrosion, Anzahl ang brand nila.

    3.)next, apply body filler to all panels as thin as you can, hangtud 1/4 inch lang. ang ako 'di man kaabot og 1/4, cguro 1/8 kay maayo ang akong latero, hehehe.

    4.) next, before sanding, apply guide coat (itom na spray paint can) og i-spray og MIST lang ha! using sanding block, sand 80 or 100 grit to form and level the surface,sand to remove guide coat, when you hit metal, leave guide coat if any, or able to remove all the guide coat without hitting the metal, STOP!. Liha lang ka by sections lang. And the MOST IMPORTANT: SAND WITH CRISS-CROSS PATTERN ONLY! change direction after 3-4 strokes, not one direction only kay mag wavy ang surface kon inggon ana. I treated the bare metal with anti-corrosion spray can kay kani mas convinient gamiton og 'di kaau daghan imong kinahangla-non para ining balik nako og work at least dili n mag-rust.

    5.) next, about spraying primer surfacer, timpla lang og gamay kon gamay ra akong i-spray, for example imong L200 na all left, front and rear door, gamay na sya, so all you need is 500ml of primer surfacer but maintain 3:1 mixing ratio ha (kon 500ml; 500X3/4= 375ml for primer and 500X1/4=125ml for catalyst) simple math, 'di ba?, add thinner at 1:1 ratio meaning for 500ml primer/catalyst mixture add 500ml URETHANE thinner. spray the whole door until consumed (i-hurot jud ni og spray para wlay usik) mga 4-6 coats ni sya. dry to touch on 15 minutes, cures about a day or 2 depends on the weather. do on other panels until all covered

    6.) next, apply guide coat, wetsand using 240 grit or dry using 150 grit block sand the door, criss-cross pattern same procedure sa step 4 once hit metal or able to sand all guide coat without hitting the metal, STOP! do on all panels.

    7.) next, spray again for final 2-3 coats of URETHANE primer surfacer, dry for a day then block sand using 400 grit.

    8.) sprayed diluted epoxy primer as sanding sealer before ko tira basecoat mga 2 coats lang.

    9.) sprayed basecoat which is the color 3 coats(mga 3 liters akong na-gamit na color og thinner combined), sugod ko atop, samay bintana, hood, trunk then sa sides, then engine bay, inner fender of both front and rear wheel tubs. human og spray, gamit ko og tack rag, trapo na pilit-pilit, very light pressure wiping lang between coats. leave for a day and use tack rag for perpping for URETHANE top coat or clear coat

    10.)gusto ko'g semi wet look, spray ko mga 4 coats of clear coat, dry for 3 days.

    11.) wet the surface w/ CLEAN WATER! and block wetsand using 1200 grit to remove "orange peel"; ang surface murag panit sa orange, sand hangtud ang tubig murag gatason nya gamit ko og squee-gee then i-wipe across the panel na akong gi-sand to see if the orange peel is gone, liha pa if naa hangtud mawala. I wetsand per section of a panel (bahin-bahin) at a time para wlay kapoy. do all other panels until covered

    12.) gamit ko og machine buffer, rubbing compound section by section, then fine rubbing compound, then scratch remover then sealing wax, then polishing wax. MANA!

    mao ni akong paagi sa akong classic na Benz.

  3. #133
    mga tol nawala ko kay nagkapoblema among connection sa balay dugay naulia update ko lang pics bro ha

  4. #134
    Quote Originally Posted by Takernz View Post
    @ giron29: unsa na status sa imong L200, bai? asa naka dapit sa painting process? kay naa koy classic na Mercedes-Benz mana body repair og ako gatira sa painting.

    Mao ni akong paagi ha, (ayaw lang sunod kon 'di ka cgurado)

    1.) Akong gi-buhat ky strip to metal kay kinahanglan jud ni na process kay;
    -dugay na kaau ang paint nya acrylic ang basecoat
    -og gusto nako urethane kay lig-on bisan paso-an nimo og sigarilyo kadiyot 'di sya dayon malanay.
    I got about 4 gallons of paint remover for the whole car,a big paint brush about 6" wide,knife putties 3 ang 6 inches, gloves na igo ma-cover imong half sa akong arms and googles basin mo-talsik sa imong mata,(if you work indoors, wear a respirator kay ang paint remover contains acid, pero naa ko gawas nag-work). Apply 1 panel at a time then cover the applied portion with a big plastic cover para ma-maximize ang effect ang paint remover and balik after an hour or so and hinay-hinay og kis-kis sa old paint apila sab ang old body filler. I did on ther parts on the car. (This step involves a lot of labor pero hinay-hinay lang gud ayaw pag-apurado)

    2.) next, liha using very course grit paper like 36 or 60 grit the whole car, then apply anti-corrosion, ang ako, apply una ko 2k (2 component) etch primer, thin coat lang then the green anti-corrosion, Anzahl ang brand nila.

    3.)next, apply body filler to all panels as thin as you can, hangtud 1/4 inch lang. ang ako 'di man kaabot og 1/4, cguro 1/8 kay maayo ang akong latero, hehehe.

    4.) next, before sanding, apply guide coat (itom na spray paint can) og i-spray og MIST lang ha! using sanding block, sand 80 or 100 grit to form and level the surface,sand to remove guide coat, when you hit metal, leave guide coat if any, or able to remove all the guide coat without hitting the metal, STOP!. Liha lang ka by sections lang. And the MOST IMPORTANT: SAND WITH CRISS-CROSS PATTERN ONLY! change direction after 3-4 strokes, not one direction only kay mag wavy ang surface kon inggon ana. I treated the bare metal with anti-corrosion spray can kay kani mas convinient gamiton og 'di kaau daghan imong kinahangla-non para ining balik nako og work at least dili n mag-rust.

    5.) next, about spraying primer surfacer, timpla lang og gamay kon gamay ra akong i-spray, for example imong L200 na all left, front and rear door, gamay na sya, so all you need is 500ml of primer surfacer but maintain 3:1 mixing ratio ha (kon 500ml; 500X3/4= 375ml for primer and 500X1/4=125ml for catalyst) simple math, 'di ba?, add thinner at 1:1 ratio meaning for 500ml primer/catalyst mixture add 500ml URETHANE thinner. spray the whole door until consumed (i-hurot jud ni og spray para wlay usik) mga 4-6 coats ni sya. dry to touch on 15 minutes, cures about a day or 2 depends on the weather. do on other panels until all covered

    6.) next, apply guide coat, wetsand using 240 grit or dry using 150 grit block sand the door, criss-cross pattern same procedure sa step 4 once hit metal or able to sand all guide coat without hitting the metal, STOP! do on all panels.

    7.) next, spray again for final 2-3 coats of URETHANE primer surfacer, dry for a day then block sand using 400 grit.

    8.) sprayed diluted epoxy primer as sanding sealer before ko tira basecoat mga 2 coats lang.

    9.) sprayed basecoat which is the color 3 coats(mga 3 liters akong na-gamit na color og thinner combined), sugod ko atop, samay bintana, hood, trunk then sa sides, then engine bay, inner fender of both front and rear wheel tubs. human og spray, gamit ko og tack rag, trapo na pilit-pilit, very light pressure wiping lang between coats. leave for a day and use tack rag for perpping for URETHANE top coat or clear coat

    10.)gusto ko'g semi wet look, spray ko mga 4 coats of clear coat, dry for 3 days.

    11.) wet the surface w/ CLEAN WATER! and block wetsand using 1200 grit to remove "orange peel"; ang surface murag panit sa orange, sand hangtud ang tubig murag gatason nya gamit ko og squee-gee then i-wipe across the panel na akong gi-sand to see if the orange peel is gone, liha pa if naa hangtud mawala. I wetsand per section of a panel (bahin-bahin) at a time para wlay kapoy. do all other panels until covered

    12.) gamit ko og machine buffer, rubbing compound section by section, then fine rubbing compound, then scratch remover then sealing wax, then polishing wax. MANA!

    mao ni akong paagi sa akong classic na Benz.

    bro thanks sa share, bro akong stat karon sakong pikup kay naka wax na bro.....pero wala pa nahuman/.//napako ipambalik mga [arts bro medjo nadugay jud ning trabahoa kay ako ra jud isa..usahay gikapoy nako napay hilak gagmay na wala nako gihilabtan sa kay nag sakit nakong kamot sigeg liha...update l\ko lang pics bro pag bakante nako picturan napud nako to

  5. #135
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  6. #136
    update pa nako ang uban pics mga bro kay naglisod pako net mu hang

  7. #137
    naa koy sakyanan bro, ang problema kay murag bitin nga nagchange skin kay namaksi iya pintal, nagpasubay ko og pintor kadaghan na, mahal man ila estimate oi, 20k... ang gusto ra unta nako mahitabo nga mapintalan lang... ang nadool nako kasagaran mo ingon jud nga puslan man pintalan, nindoton nalang jud... magboot man cla nako oi,,... saon kahani no,, ako plano ako nalang e pilox para madali, kiskisan lang nako ang niborot nga old paint... ok ra cguro ang pilox bro no kay plano nako mo apply ani diri inyo storyahan,,, wala lakoy gamit nga sama ninyo naay magamit para mapraktisan.. ako gusto mapraktisan nako pero pilox lang...

  8. #138
    Very informative...thanks

  9. #139
    nalingaw ko ug basa kay very informative, pero na bitin ko sa pick-up ni @giron29 unsa na kaha update

  10. #140
    asa pa lain paint center nga barato2x og presyo aside extreme paint center sa mandaue? any idea?

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