The Roman Catholic Church~ Questions

[noy]

Question: basin wala pa nabalik
Unsay teachings sa RC about anang Speaking of tongues?

Naay daghan Christian Churches nga nag Practice ana...

sio, i think there's no specific view within the Catholic Church with regard to
"speaking in tongues"
this could mean that speaking in tongues can be speaking in a totally different language out of the mother tongue without previous learnings in proclaiming the gospel of the Lord.
or speaking in words that no one could understand..like kanang sa speaking in tongues sa pentecostals..

Catholic Church started to recognize this "gift of the spirit" although not as something official but accepted in a way.. sa pagbutho sa Catholic Charismatic Movement..
although Pentecostal ang roots ani nga practice but it surely was helpful in terms of personal relationship with the Lord..as it somewhat edifes one's self before God.. but this gift must be accompanied by the gift of revelation to edify the Church or shall we say interpretation of tongues..

1 Corinthians 14:1-5
1 Make love your aim; but be eager, too, for spiritual gifts, and especially for prophesying.

2 Those who speak in a tongue speak to God, but not to other people, because nobody understands them; they are speaking in the Spirit and the meaning is hidden.

3 On the other hand, someone who prophesies speaks to other people, building them up and giving them encouragement and reassurance.

4 Those who speak in a tongue may build themselves up, but those who prophesy build up the community.

5 While I should like you all to speak in tongues, I would much rather you could prophesy; since those who prophesy are of greater importance than those who speak in tongues, unless they can interpret what they say so that the church is built up by it.

[mangkanor1989]

deperensya ba ang atong bible e compared sa uban nga domination?

For me: big difference gyud kai other denomination kai gipang-change man ang naa sa scripture, then they omitted some of the person involved or add new person involved compared sa atong Bible nga wala gyud kuhae and it is based on our Ancestor (the Apostles and Evangelist). And also the Catholic Bible, most of the happenings have Scientific explanations and evidences, unlike others.

[Kagami-chan]

Hi sis,
if you read the whole chapter 7, the title would be God's promise to david..

verses 12-13 says : I will raise up your offspring to succeed you, your own flesh and blood, and I will establish his kingdom. He is the one who will build a house for my Name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever.
these verses could point out to King Solomon, David's son who actually built the first temple of the Lord..

in the first part of verse 14, it reads: " I will be his father, and he will be my son."
just like when God promised Abraham that He will establish an everlasting covenant with his son Isaac( Gen 17:19).

there is no way that God would have been directly referring to Jesus
with verse 14 "When he does wrong, I will punish him with a rod wielded by men, with floggings inflicted by human hands."
for it directly contradicts what the Apostle Paul wrote in 2 Cor 5:21
"God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God."
--This then would be the reason why Jesus is crucified..not because He sinned but because WE have sinned.
Jesus is the fulfillment of the Passover, Jesus is the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world.
Jesus, Son of God became the son of man so that we sons of men might become children of God.

Verse 14 therefore would have directly refer to Davd's son King Solomon
(read 1 Kings 11 about Solomon's wives and their gods)..
but also point out to a Messianic Prophecy indirectly, as Jesus too was King David's descendant, and was even referred to as the Son of David..
and in Jesus God established the new, final and everlasting covenant.

@noy thanks! because a friend nga nakaila nako sa fb found a webpage thename.ph which stated that Jesus failed to do his mission daw and that is to tell the people the name of God and so, he was crucified. I am not convinced by what she posted sa fb, pero as in... super daghan na kaayo sha i-post and makita man sa ako feeds that I contradicted her pero daghan sila ni contradict nako kay sayop daw ang pagka tuo nato ni Jesus, the apostles were liars or the false prophets, etc. I wanted to say something to also make a stand pero I dunno how to explain what I feel pud. They said nga only the ones who know the real name of God will be saved.

[noy]

@noy thanks! because a friend nga nakaila nako sa fb found a webpage thename.ph which stated that Jesus failed to do his mission daw and that is to tell the people the name of God and so, he was crucified. I am not convinced by what she posted sa fb, pero as in... super daghan na kaayo sha i-post and makita man sa ako feeds that I contradicted her pero daghan sila ni contradict nako kay sayop daw ang pagka tuo nato ni Jesus, the apostles were liars or the false prophets, etc. I wanted to say something to also make a stand pero I dunno how to explain what I feel pud. They said nga only the ones who know the real name of God will be saved.

well..i'm afraid there's nothing we can do about your friend sis, everyone is entitled with a point of view..
and by that, di nato malikayan if naay mucontradict sa atoang pagtan.aw ni Jesus..
basta mao lang ni ako ikasulti sa imu.. the reason why Jesus had to be crucified is for our salvation not because he sinned or something like that..
as how the Jews offer a sacrifice and burnt offerings in atonement for their sins, Jesus as the lamb of God takes away the sins of world through His blood.
through adam sin entered in the world. through Jesus, sin has lost its power..
if the apostles were liars and false prophets..would they die for a lie?
why would they go to martyrdom for a lie?
but maski pa ug unsay among isulti or sa mga tao who think differently on Jesus, the apostles and the Church..
at the end of the day, ikaw mismo maka answer who Jesus really is for you..

the real name of God?

before Jesus' ascension, He prayed for His disciples and he said:
"I will remain in the world no longer, but they are still in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect them by the power of your name, the name you gave me, so that they may be one as we are one. " John 17: 11

Jesus said the "power of your name, the name you gave me.." then concluded "so that they may be one as we are one."

moreover, we can read in John 14:8-9 a conversation between Philip the apostle and Jesus

"Philip said, “Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us.” ⁹ Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?"

therfore we can now conclude that Jesus and the Father are one..
those who know and have seen Jesus, know and see the Father as well..
and those who know the name of Jesus, knows the name of the Father.

people who deny the trinitarian view of God will have trouble understanding who Jesus really is, i think mao nay problema sa imung miga sis.. hehehe..
i suggest you read a lot about the Doctrine of the Holy Trinity para mas makita nimu if Jesus is really capable to Sin..
try reading these links sis:
The Trinity | Catholic Answers
and
God in Three Persons | Catholic Answers

Lastly, we read in John 1: 1 and 14
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."
"The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth."

If we say Jesus sinned, and He was the word that became flesh, the word was with Fod and the word was God..
it's like saying that God can actually sin... i hope you see the contradiction in their claims.

[blackdream]

people who deny the trinitarian view of God will have trouble understanding who Jesus really is, i think mao nay problema sa imung miga sis.. hehehe..
i suggest you read a lot about the Doctrine of the Holy Trinity para mas makita nimu if Jesus is really capable to Sin..
try reading these links sis:
The Trinity | Catholic Answers
and
God in Three Persons | Catholic Answers

Lastly, we read in John 1: 1 and 14
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."
"The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth."

If we say Jesus sinned, and He was the word that became flesh, the word was with Fod and the word was God..
it's like saying that God can actually sin... i hope you see the contradiction in their claims.

Agree ko aneh, even sa Messiah Prophecy - Isaiah 9:6, klaro kaayo nga c Jesus kay usa ra ug ang Amahan ug usa ka Dios.. Gawas nga gilansang sya tungod sa atong mga sala, kasagaran sa iyang mga teachings ug pamaagi kay opposed ug mo contradict sa mga pamaagi nga gisunod sa Pharisees, Sadducees ug mga kadagku.an sa mga simbahan kaniadto... sauna kay patyon man jd ang magpasipala sa Dios, which is maoy nahitabo ni Jesus... pero to think wla sya nagpasipala, igo lng nya gi pakita sa atoa kung unsay characteristic sa Amahan nga naa pd nya...

laing pamatuod nga usa lng sila katong si Jesus padulong na mo kayab sa Langit :

Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit - Matthew 28:19

kanang akong gibold nga "name" kay singular na sya ug wla ni refer ug 3 kay ug ni refer pana sya nana unta nay "s" = names.. so ato jd ma realize dha sa usa ka Dios dunay tulo ka persona ug kining tulo maguban jd ni sla...

1 John 5:7 - For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. (KJV)

[Kagami-chan]

Thanks @noy! For helping me clear my mind and heart.

[slabdans]

OT -balik ko diri lurk mode lang sa kay murag OP nako diri dah heheh

[noy]

OT -balik ko diri lurk mode lang sa kay murag OP nako diri dah heheh

OP sa imung mata! LOL kini kay ning saka na balik ang Thread..basin ug ma busy napud ta..hahaha

[slabdans]

OP sa imung mata! LOL kini kay ning saka na balik ang Thread..basin ug ma busy napud ta..hahaha

mao2x! tan-aw2x sa ko kay wala nako praktis hehehe..na abogan nato ako biblia

[blackdream]

ako lng pangutana mga igsoon para ma busy gamay ang thread...hehehe, ngano man ang uban pari kay mugbo rman kaau modala ug Mass? Dli man pagingon unsa pero unsa may mkuha anang perti rajd dalia mahuman unya wla pjd kaau nasakay sa gospel? unsa kahay atong ikasulti ana? hinoon dli man jd tanan....