Current Ukraine crisis..What do you think? 1st stage to another cold war?

[Nokki]

The entire east is very pro-Russian if not anti -Euromaidan and despite the fact that Yanukovich is probably a political scumbag just like the new interim president Oleksandr Turchynov they did elect him.

and the east cities were not happy when the first order of business of the new Euromaidan authorities was to abolish Russian as a regional language. This basically outlawed the only language they know.

even western media acknowledge how fiercely divided the country is

map A divided Ukraine
map http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...ns-crimea.html

most of the big million cities were in the east like Kharkiv, Dnipropetrovsk, Odesa ,Donetsk and these were the pro russian Yanukov got it's votes and probally has a big chunk of ethnic russain live, tanaaw lang crimea is nothing compared to these cities.
And some news points out that some city councils have already asked to be part of future Autonomous Crimea which undisputedly will happen.Basin secretly na negotiate kani west obama and putin how to divided ukraine territory kay dili man gyud mag kasinabut ning east ug west kay language palang gubot na.

comming from western media itself bias na but still
Pro-Russia Protesters Face-Off With Cops in Kharkiv, Ukraine - NBC News

In northeast Ukraine, pro-Maidan occupiers are routed by counter-demonstrators - The Washington Post
Ukraine: Violent clashes in Kharkiv leave dozens injured | euronews, world news
Pro-Russia groups take over government buildings across Ukraine | World news | The Guardian
Dnipropetrovsk Ukraine Pro Russian'n protesters have seized the government building - YouTube
02/23/2014 Ukraine. Odessa. Hundreds of thousands of people protesting against the opposition. - YouTube

[reptoid]

"Russia and China have coinciding viewpoints". Well Philippines, you'd better reevaluate your relationship with Russia and consider blocking any further investment because this action without doubt has just made it so much easier for China to invade PH territory.

I'm guessing someone here has already recognized this, but Adolf Hitler used exactly the same excuse when he invaded Sudetenland in 1938... and we all know how appeasement worked out then.

[æRLO]

"Russia and China have coinciding viewpoints". Well Philippines, you'd better reevaluate your relationship with Russia and consider blocking any further investment because this action without doubt has just made it so much easier for China to invade PH territory.

I'm guessing someone here has already recognized this, but Adolf Hitler used exactly the same excuse when he invaded Sudetenland in 1938... and we all know how appeasement worked out then.

Poland: "Oh gee, here we go again."

[æRLO]

The entire east is very pro-Russian if not anti -Euromaidan and despite the fact that Yanukovich is probably a political scumbag just like the new interim president Oleksandr Turchynov they did elect him.

and the east cities were not happy when the first order of business of the new Euromaidan authorities was to abolish Russian as a regional language. This basically outlawed the only language they know.

even western media acknowledge how fiercely divided the country is

map A divided Ukraine
map http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...ns-crimea.html

most of the big million cities were in the east like Kharkiv, Dnipropetrovsk, Odesa ,Donetsk and these were the pro russian Yanukov got it's votes and probally has a big chunk of ethnic russain live, tanaaw lang crimea is nothing compared to these cities.
And some news points out that some city councils have already asked to be part of future Autonomous Crimea which undisputedly will happen.Basin secretly na negotiate kani west obama and putin how to divided ukraine territory kay dili man gyud mag kasinabut ning east ug west kay language palang gubot na.

comming from western media itself bias na but still
Pro-Russia Protesters Face-Off With Cops in Kharkiv, Ukraine - NBC News

In northeast Ukraine, pro-Maidan occupiers are routed by counter-demonstrators - The Washington Post
Ukraine: Violent clashes in Kharkiv leave dozens injured | euronews, world news
Pro-Russia groups take over government buildings across Ukraine | World news | The Guardian
Dnipropetrovsk Ukraine Pro Russian'n protesters have seized the government building - YouTube
02/23/2014 Ukraine. Odessa. Hundreds of thousands of people protesting against the opposition. - YouTube

ang kalahi-an lang aning mga city sa eastern Ukraine ug Sevastopol is that, Sevastopol lies in an oblast (Crimea) that has an ethnic Russian majority. Kaning other eastern cities they are in predominantly Ukrainian populated oblasts. So it's very complicated for those other areas outside of Crimea.

[cj21]

To avoid WW3 sanctions would be the best course of action the world can take. Let all Russians feel the pain for the ignorance of their leader., sanctions have really turned things around for Cuba and North Korea....,

I heard Obama is proposing the UN to freeze Russian banks which would undoubtedly crush their economy, but as always you can expect China to veto any resolution.

[rayven716]

Let's just hope that diplomatic talks prevail otherwise economic sanctions is next option.

[PhilosopheRob]

To avoid WW3 sanctions would be the best course of action the world can take. Let all Russians feel the pain for the ignorance of their leader., sanctions have really turned things around for Cuba and North Korea....,

I heard Obama is proposing the UN to freeze Russian banks which would undoubtedly crush their economy, but as always you can expect China to veto any resolution.

Well, it is an option but i doubt that it would be the best. I agree, Russia may feel something but not anywhere close to pain, sanctions are quite ineffective to nations with vital geopolitical hold especially Russia which despite the perceived loser status of the cold war still holds quite a punch that the U.S don't really what to be hit with. Also, like you said, the context isnt really similar to cold war era, China for one is no longer the China of the 70-80s. This is just so complex of an event that there are no winners on this one, not the U.S - West, Russia, certainly not the Ukraine, unfortunately, the most positive thing that may happen today or for the weeks to come is that no full-blown war will erupt. WWIII on the other hand is so far fetch, not without China, Iran and the Middle-East directly involved.

[JcBoY]

Sanctions is a bullying tools of the hegemonic states that will never work on their prey who on other hands mastered the language of resistance. The West should wake up and accept that regionalism is the better option for hegemonic ambition.

[flanker]

I am beginning to think all of this is a result of the botched attempt at syria, where a natgas pipeline was supposed to pass through syria eventually ending in EU but since syria is allies with Russia and it was never started at all. Since they can't weaken putin's position in the Mediterranean, they will try to plug the leak right where is starts.

Nice analogy.

In my opinion the best thing Ukraine could do to keep Crimea is to stay neutral - No EU, No Customs Union.

I dont think the EU will do sanctions on Russia, its like shooting itself on the foot. It can do damage, but it will hurt it self as well.

[voldemort]

But at an emergency meeting in Brussels the foreign ministers of Germany, France, Italy and Spain resisted calls for trade sanctions, instead limiting discussion to freezing long-running talks with Russia on visa liberalisation that would have made it easier for Russians to visit Europe. Washington is also threatening to kick Russia out of the G8 group of leading economies, but Berlin opposes that.

Ukraine crisis: US-Europe rifts surfacing as Putin tightens Crimea grip | World news | The Guardian

Murag walay trade sanctions mahitabo.