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  1. #171

    bro @Aittv nabasa naman nako tanan naa sa bible bro... kanang gipangwali ni paul sa akong paminaw murag medyo lahi pero wala may dautan sa iyang giwali kay ang iyang tinguha nga motoo kita kang jesus ug repent sa atong mga sala ang mahitabo kay mahimo na kitang buotan nga tawo
    Last edited by Boyen; 02-25-2014 at 03:45 AM.

  2. #172
    Quote Originally Posted by Aittv View Post
    iwasi tanan iyang epistles...romans, galatians, ephesians, etc. - kung bago palang ka nag basa ug bible.
    magsalita ang magaling....masud napud ka ani sa ayaw kuhae or dungagi...sayonan kag hutdon nimo ug kuha ang epistles...romans, galatians, ephesians, naa pay etc. pastilan...ilabay nalang kaha nato ang bible ani kay basin tua ma masud sa bracket sa etc.

    ang nakanindot man gud nimo, gipakita man kaha ka sa Dios sa kamatuoran...ngano molikay man ka sa akong pagparang nemu? single ta..pamatud-e ng imo ako pamatud-an ning ako
    Last edited by slabdans; 02-25-2014 at 06:39 AM.

  3. #173
    Quote Originally Posted by Aittv View Post
    iwasi tanan iyang epistles...romans, galatians, ephesians, etc. - kung bago palang ka nag basa ug bible.
    Delikado ma na TS. Paxenxa na karon pako kareply. According sa article nga ako gipost ane nga thread, if you discredit Paul's writings, the only book left in the New Testament would be Jude. Unya ganahan ka ana TS?

    Unya concerning sa gi.ingon ni James about faith, I think na misunderstood nimo what James tried to imply. For me, the meaning of faith according to the Bible is not just believing in Christ alone, nor believing in Christ and doing good deeds, but the definition of faith in the Bible is believing in Christ Jesus and trusting in Him knowing that you are a sinner and can do nothing without Him. Sure the demons and even Satan believed that Jesus was Christ, but that isn't faith. What James tried to say was that if you have faith in Christ then your good deeds will follow; he wasn't saying that if you have faith and good deeds you will be saved. Kay bisan unsa pa nato pag buhat og maayo, we are still sinners as Romans 3:23 said. And wala pod nagpasabot nga kung nagbuhat ka og maayo, naa na kay faith ana. First comes faith, then good deeds will follow. Kay ang tanan grasya ra sa Ginoo; nakaplagan nimo ang kaluwasan pinaagi sa imong faith nga gikan sa grasya sa Ginoo.

    Now on the part of Abraham: Abraham's actions justified his faith in God and his actions wasn't the reason he was saved because before he sacrificed his son, God already knew that his faith for Him was real.

    Another story TS oh:

    Kadumdum ka atong gilansang na si Jesus?? Di ba tulo to sila gilansang, unya katong nasa right ni Jesus kay naluwas. Sultii daw ko TS kung unsay gibuhat atong tawo nga nasa right ni Jesus, nganong naluwas man siya?? Nagbuhat pa ba siya og maayo ato Now I tell you TS,what that man did was called FAITH...and his FAITH saved him.

  4. #174
    Quote Originally Posted by LiveHigh1987 View Post
    Delikado ma na TS. Paxenxa na karon pako kareply. According sa article nga ako gipost ane nga thread, if you discredit Paul's writings, the only book left in the New Testament would be Jude. Unya ganahan ka ana TS?
    Nope - I don't follow your/their logic. Because they test the bible like testing a history book.
    Unya concerning sa gi.ingon ni James about faith, I think na misunderstood nimo what James tried to imply. For me, the meaning of faith according to the Bible is not just believing in Christ alone, nor believing in Christ and doing good deeds, but the definition of faith in the Bible is believing in Christ Jesus and trusting in Him knowing that you are a sinner and can do nothing without Him. Sure the demons and even Satan believed that Jesus was Christ, but that isn't faith. What James tried to say was that if you have faith in Christ then your good deeds will follow; he wasn't saying that if you have faith and good deeds you will be saved.
    So pag Muslim, Agnostic, etc. ka diretso n ka maimpyerno -> kay di man sila mutuo kay Jesus?
    Kay bisan unsa pa nato pag buhat og maayo, we are still sinners as Romans 3:23 said. And wala pod nagpasabot nga kung nagbuhat ka og maayo, naa na kay faith ana. First comes faith, then good deeds will follow. Kay ang tanan grasya ra sa Ginoo; nakaplagan nimo ang kaluwasan pinaagi sa imong faith nga gikan sa grasya sa Ginoo.
    I agree and disagree. Wala ka kabalo ngano ang commandment ni Jesus is love God with all your heart, soul and mind? It means do your best to resist temptation -> tapos pag natempt ka dire na ka mag repent -> then dapat magbago na ka after repentance -> do your best to resist sin again/ abide in the law -> Mao na with all your heart, soul and mind - kay pwede ka libaon sa imong mind, body ug heart-> ayaw ingna pag hapit na ka mamatay or kay nadakpan na ka sa pulis magpabutanx2 o pahumblex2 na dayon ka -> unsa diay pag ala ka nadakpan or kusgan p ka -> okay lang magbuhatx2 ug sala -> this is the easy way. Remember God knows the secrets of the heart -> dili ni murag atoang justice system na punog loopholes and also we are only judged once. Agree hinoon ko na sinner tang tanan.

    The easy and the hard way:
    "Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it."

    Dapat masabtan nimo -> narrow gate = hard way. Which is the harder after hearing the Word of God - continually resisting temption/ abiding in the commandments or keep on sinning/magpalami tapos pahumblex2 sa ending?

    James 4: 7
    Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
    Now on the part of Abraham: Abraham's actions justified his faith in God and his actions wasn't the reason he was saved because before he sacrificed his son, God already knew that his faith for Him was real.
    Nope - they come together like package. If God already knew Abraham's faith then the test is useless/non-sense -> ngano gitest pa niya kabalo na man diay siya. Klaro man kaayo ang verse.
    Another story TS oh:

    Kadumdum ka atong gilansang na si Jesus?? Di ba tulo to sila gilansang, unya katong nasa right ni Jesus kay naluwas. Sultii daw ko TS kung unsay gibuhat atong tawo nga nasa right ni Jesus, nganong naluwas man siya?? Nagbuhat pa ba siya og maayo ato Now I tell you TS,what that man did was called FAITH...and his FAITH saved him.
    Uu - remember kaayo nako na but it is not only believing alone in Jesus that saved him it was his action -> his humility and for being just. He defended Jesus - because he did not do anything(Justice) - admits his a thief/sinful and deserved the punishment(humility). So we can say he was a righteous person. In theory, basig napugsan lang ni sya ug pangawat - because of poverty siguro. Remember naay mga kawatan na kung naay chance maski dili nila kinahanglan ug kwarta/things mangawat ra ghapon.

    "Blessed are the humble, for they shall inherit the earth(new earth). " "Blessed are those who hunger and thirst after righteousness, for they shall be filled"
    -> this is talking about the kingdom of God.

    See you are getting your gospel from Paul -> lead you to destruction.

  5. #175
    ahh ngega makalikay ah...lihay lihayan man lang ko...bantay kalang nig uli nako kay ako panaginuton ng imong reply sa uban

  6. #176
    dli sya mo tubag nimo bro @slabdans kay ma counter man nimo iya gi pang comment. nya murag mahutdan sya ug tubag or nag lagot nah nimo bro.. hehe

  7. #177
    Aittv usa ka kadakong bot-boton...daan pako di ka kabarog sa imung gipang post!

    Mura rakag ni ingon "kaon og tae, lami lage!"

    Get lost you fool!

  8. #178
    Quote Originally Posted by Aittv View Post
    Nope - I don't follow your/their logic. Because they test the bible like testing a history book.
    waa ngega? ngano naka ingon man ka nga amo ni gi test like history book?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aittv View Post
    So pag Muslim, Agnostic, etc. ka diretso n ka maimpyerno -> kay di man sila mutuo kay Jesus?
    kuyawa nimo oi...mga muslims ok ra mo ani? wala koy idea about other belief pro dili ko manghilabot nila..
    pakit-a kuno kog verse nga nag sulti nga ma empyerno na silaklaro kaayo ni nag buot nasad ka ani

    Quote Originally Posted by Aittv View Post
    I agree and disagree. Wala ka kabalo ngano ang commandment ni Jesus is love God with all your heart, soul and mind? It means do your best to resist temptation -> tapos pag natempt ka dire na ka mag repent -> then dapat magbago na ka after repentance -> do your best to resist sin again/ abide in the law -> Mao na with all your heart, soul and mind - kay pwede ka libaon sa imong mind, body ug heart-> ayaw ingna pag hapit na ka mamatay or kay nadakpan na ka sa pulis magpabutanx2 o pahumblex2 na dayon ka -> unsa diay pag ala ka nadakpan or kusgan p ka -> okay lang magbuhatx2 ug sala -> this is the easy way. Remember God knows the secrets of the heart -> dili ni murag atoang justice system na punog loopholes and also we are only judged once. Agree hinoon ko na sinner tang tanan.
    naa nasad ka aning imong kulto pakit-a kog verse...nanaway kang PABLO unya ikaw mag buot2x rasad kag imo...kita kas kas kausaban ni pablo? iyang testemonya kung unsa siya kaniadto hangtud nahimong ministro ni Jesus? unsa man tawag ato dili repentance? ang problema nimo, imbis si Pablo nag sulti sa tibuok kamatuoran, imo na no0n gihimong dautan..diba sa korte ang witness will "Telling all the truth and nothing but the truth" mao nay tinuod nga saksi..walay gitago nga bakak para mailhan huwes kung nagsulti ba ang testisgo sa matuaod

    Quote Originally Posted by Aittv View Post
    The easy and the hard way:
    "Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it."
    kung ignorante lang ang tawo unya dili himasa sa biblia ma gyud nay paignan ayaw mig dad-a ngadto pagka alaot amaw. kinsa ka nga mogiya kanamo? utro sad kang buta...naghimo- himo baya tuod imong dalan

    Matthew 15:14
    14 Leave them; they are blind guides.[d] If the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Aittv View Post
    Dapat masabtan nimo -> narrow gate = hard way. Which is the harder after hearing the Word of God - continually resisting temption/ abiding in the commandments or keep on sinning/magpalami tapos pahumblex2 sa ending?
    and what are those commandments of God ang imong nahibaw-an...isaysay ngari...simpol ra gyud na kaayo

    Quote Originally Posted by Aittv View Post
    James 4: 7
    [I]Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
    that the reason why we resist your demonic statement here because you are the devil...if you are not then prove me


    Quote Originally Posted by Aittv View Post
    Uu - remember kaayo nako na but it is not only believing alone in Jesus that saved him it was his action -> his humility and for being just. He defended Jesus - because he did not do anything(Justice) - admits his a thief/sinful and deserved the punishment(humility). So we can say he was a righteous person. In theory, basig napugsan lang ni sya ug pangawat - because of poverty siguro. Remember naay mga kawatan na kung naay chance maski dili nila kinahanglan ug kwarta/things mangawat ra ghapon.

    "Blessed are the humble, for they shall inherit the earth(new earth). " "Blessed are those who hunger and thirst after righteousness, for they shall be filled"
    -> this is talking about the kingdom of God.
    "Blessed are the humble, "
    unsa man to si PABLO wala magpaubos? ug kani imong for
    they shall inherit the earth(new earth).
    asa ni nato mabasa sa biblia? usa ka tawo ra akong nailang ang nigamit ani nga Teaching si Quibuloy unsa man ka? sakop ka niya or ikaw na mismo si Quibuloy

    Quote Originally Posted by Aittv View Post
    See you are getting your gospel from Paul -> lead you to destruction.
    so far wala pa koy nakita nga ang teaching ni PAUL makadaot...ang akong nakita nga makadaot kani imong gipang yawit..kung tan-aw nimo sayop ko sige PROVE IT HERE!!!

    Culto kang dako!!!
    Last edited by slabdans; 02-25-2014 at 06:29 PM.

  9. #179
    kuyawa makadalag storya aning TS. Mura ma'g siya na'y Ginoo. lol

  10. #180
    Quote Originally Posted by cptn_star View Post
    kuyawa makadalag storya aning TS. Mura ma'g siya na'y Ginoo. lol
    mao bitaw nay style ni Quiboloy...siya daw ang re incarnation ni Jesus...kung si Jesus the Anointed One, si Quiboloy ang the Appointed One...mao na mismo sulti ni Quiboloy

    akong duda ni TS siya ni...or desipolo ni siya

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