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  1. #51

    You said:
    Quote Originally Posted by Lakbay Pilipino View Post
    i agre we're still in deep shit, but EDSA is a celebration of our freedom from a repressive government. it is a lesson of history we need to always remember. kay kung makalimot ta ana, ma usban unya.

    no again to Marcos! no to martial law!
    no again to marcos. How about the other political dynasties?

    Those facts you posted are still disputed. Anyone can claim to become a human rights victims. Too murky to verify some of them. Besides, there's compensation so yeah, why not join.

    The economy was due to the worsening security. There were multiple fronts against FM even US was working behind the scenes to put him down. Though he was a disciplinarian, he might have been ahead of his time as most people were so emotionally moved against him, but some have made regrets why they participated in EDSA.

    Even a cache of rifles and ammunition is still a premature sign to declare martial law? Anyway, keep saying your side if you must, I don't see any point analyzing it since the results we have now speak for themselves, like you say.

    And if EDSA was what it was supposed to bring, then it also started with the culture of discontinuing projects or privatizing them to the loss of the taxpayer. Most projects were privatized and the income did not go to the government... i think you know illegally owns some of them. That and the security situation made the cost of borrowing difficult.

    Don't care about EDSA, it was never really used for what is was intended for anyway.



    Quote Originally Posted by Lakbay Pilipino View Post
    brad, duha ka punto akong nakuha diri. una, ang EDSA was made to demonize Marcos. ikaduha, EDSA made the replacements look like saints.

    unang punto. no, EDSA wasn't meant to demonize marcos because marcos' actions speak for themselves. perte ta ka luoy sa panahon ni Marcos. akong isaysay ang pipila lamang sa mga verified facts nga collaborated sa international and local media, human rights international, world bank, and guinness world records.

    • human rights violations: a very conservative number of forced disappearances is 1,500. ang uban nga numbers mo-abot og 10,000. hundreds of abductions from the opposition and mga tig-rally. this includes honorable Senators Benigno S. Aquino Jr., Jose Diokno, Francisco Rodrigo and Ramon Mitra Jr., and members of the media such as Joaquin Roces, Teodoro Locsin Sr., Maximo Soliven and Amando Doronila. what does this mean? DISSENT is not tolerated. ang ilang pagtibad-tibad, which is the very foundation of democracy, maoy nakapapreso nila. unya ikaw kung magtibad tibad ka, ganahan ka presohon ka? kaning istorya.net di gani ni mo exist sa panahon ni marcos. mismo ang mga college student sa manila di pwede magtapok ug magsturya.
    • ang pag balloon sa utang. sa tuig mil nuybe siyentos sitenta, sa ikalimang tuig sa pagpangulo ni Marcos, (dili pa martial law,) ang utang sa pinas $2 Billion kapin ra. paghuman sa martial law, nahimo na man nuon nga kapin sa $25 billion? asa man pa ingon ang kwarta? conservative estimates say that $17 billion was pocketed by marcos and is now hidden in swiss bank accounts, used to buy jewelries, properties, among others. kinsa may magbagu-od og bayad intawn ani? kita mga tax payers! mga anak nato! mga anak sa atong mga anak! hangtud pa ni sa pipila ka henerasyon, magbayad ta's utang sa pilipinas nga wa gi-ayo pagdumala ni marcos ug gi bulsa pa ang uban. nya sugot mo ana? idol japon ninyo ang nakapa baon sa ato sa utang?


    for a detailed narration about plunder, here's a link.


    ikaduhang punto. it is our job, you and i, to scrutinize whoever is in the seat of government. pasalamat ta kay sa panahon ni marcos, dili kini mahimo. di ka pwede mo question sa iyang pamunu-an ug pamalakad. aduna bay propaganda nga maot si marcos, nindot si aquino? kung duna man, atong tutulan gihapon nang pag ingon nga nindot si aquino! ang punto ani is don't confuse the marcos issue with any other issue - such as arroyo's presidency, aquino's presidency, ug uban pang mga lagutmon sama sa gabi, kamote ug safeguard. sukad sa akong pag tan-aw sa tv or sa unsa man nga propaganda against marcos, wa koi nakit-an nga milutaw nga santos. like i said, succeeding people are still under the public's scrutiny and it's up to decide if indeed they are or not. ang tumong ug tinguha sa pag commemorate sa EDSA mao ang pagpahinumdom sa katawhan ug pagpahibalo sa mga wa kabalo arun dili na kini ma usab! wala kini nag ingon nga santos si noynoy, si cory, or si pnoy. (or so i gather. regardless, that's not the point).

    kibalo ko nga kitang tanan pareha ra'g tumong - ma palambo atong pinalanggang Pilipinas. pero di ko katugot nga ang mga verified facts isalibay lamang og dili tagaan og higayon pag himay, pag wi-wi, ug pag tuki kabahin sa usa sa mga pinaka ngit-ngit nga panahon sa atong kasaysayan. amen.

  2. #52
    ahak biya ning ilang celebration hapit pa noon ko ma late kay way sakyanan ni agi sa amoa... di man gud na edsa ang capitol ug walay edsa dre sa cebu...

  3. #53
    Unya wala ka natingala ngano gi balhin nila dri sa sugbo? Nga wala may kalibutan ang mga cebuano unsa jud nahitabo didto sa EDSA. Unya kadtong naa sa EDSA ilang gi sibya sa tibuok kalibutan na ang tibuok pilipinas daw ang naa didto na nag pa hibaw sa ilang gibati... pero tan.awa karon kasagaran proyekto adto ra sa manila hasta LRT kta mga cebuano ang ga bayad... hahahaha

    Quote Originally Posted by ExtraHot View Post
    ahak biya ning ilang celebration hapit pa noon ko ma late kay way sakyanan ni agi sa amoa... di man gud na edsa ang capitol ug walay edsa dre sa cebu...

  4. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by M.A.D. View Post
    Unya wala ka natingala ngano gi balhin nila dri sa sugbo? Nga wala may kalibutan ang mga cebuano unsa jud nahitabo didto sa EDSA. Unya kadtong naa sa EDSA ilang gi sibya sa tibuok kalibutan na ang tibuok pilipinas daw ang naa didto na nag pa hibaw sa ilang gibati... pero tan.awa karon kasagaran proyekto adto ra sa manila hasta LRT kta mga cebuano ang ga bayad... hahahaha
    mao jud bro... pwde mu intra if naa man rally oppose ani ila celebration? maglagot nalng ta hinampak!

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    at kelan pa nalipat ang EDSA sa Cebu pati traffic kasamang inilipat tsk tsk tsk!

  6. #56
    after 28 years, our country's decline keeps on going and going and going............

    Marcos= the mythical hydra.he was taken out and many others worst than him came out.
    Last edited by 7DMM; 02-25-2014 at 08:40 AM.
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  7. #57
    abi nato o mahuman na ang kalbaryo sa Pinas og muasenso nata, gisamutan man hinuon...

  8. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by ExtraHot View Post
    ahak biya ning ilang celebration hapit pa noon ko ma late kay way sakyanan ni agi sa amoa... di man gud na edsa ang capitol ug walay edsa dre sa cebu...
    escario ang naa dri..hahahahaha

  9. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by 7DMM View Post
    after 28 years, our country's decline keeps on going and going and going............

    Marcos= the mythical hydra.he was taken out and many others worst than him came out.
    Pero dili unta siya kuhaon if TARONG pa siya...

    Cge tag tan-aw sa Dunot nga Bunga Pero wa tah nag tan aw sa PUNUAN nganu ang bunga Dunot...

  10. #60
    trapika uy.....hahaha

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