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    Phil 2:12
    ...continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling

    Mat. 16:27
    For the Son of Man is going to come in his Father's glory with his angels, and then he will reward each person according to what he has done.

    Mat. 12:36-37
    I tell you, on the day of judgment you will have to give an account for every careless word you utter; For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cptn_star View Post
    If you're trying to imply that works fall under the requirement category, you must be reading/interpreting the bible the wrong way or doesn't even read the bible at all.
    so you are saying work is not a requirement therefore is not needed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pakinimo View Post
    so you are saying work is not a requirement therefore is not needed?
    "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—not by works, so that no one can boast."
    -Ephesians 2:8-9

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    Quote Originally Posted by cptn_star View Post
    "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—not by works, so that no one can boast."
    -Ephesians 2:8-9
    are you saying that work is not a requirement? yes or no nalang bos, kay d ko ganahan mu interpret ana kay basin magka misunderstanding ta. mas maau ng gikan jd nimo

    If yes, if I murdered and stole and hurt people all my life yet I believe jesus is my personal savior and I accept jesus in my heart. Would I be saved after asking for forgiveness??

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    Quote Originally Posted by pakinimo View Post
    are you saying that work is not a requirement? yes or no nalang bos, kay d ko ganahan mu interpret ana kay basin magka misunderstanding ta. mas maau ng gikan jd nimo

    If yes, if I murdered and stole and hurt people all my life yet I believe jesus is my personal savior and I accept jesus in my heart. Would I be saved after asking for forgiveness??
    it was, is and never a requirement. self explanatory na man ang verse sir. do note that the author of that verse was a persecutor who ordered for the death of christians during his younger years. and then God revealed His grace to him by blinding him, after which his faith, submission and humility made him a new man. from then on, that turning point in paul's life transformed him into a preacher, his good works being a result of his salvation by faith.

    di ta kabayad sa atong kaluwasan sir. not even being drawn, hanged and quartered or being charred to ashes for that cause can pay for our salvation kay taw ra man ta. mabaw ra gyud kaayo kng works ra ang basehan sa kaluwasan sir kay anyone could easily say nga "oy mas balaan pa ko nimo kay naglakaw kog paluhod sa asin padung sa altar kada dominggo". resulta ra gyud nang maayong binuhatan sa tinudanay nga pagtuo.

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    naunsa man mo diri? salvation is completely useless for an atheist, balaan kaayo ang salvation dili na pwede ihatag sa mga iro useless na

    Matthew 7:6
    6 “Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    naunsa man mo diri? salvation is completely useless for an atheist, balaan kaayo ang salvation dili na pwede ihatag sa mga iro useless na

    Matthew 7:6
    6 “Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.
    graveh nmu oist, d lage mu share. wa man ko nanghilabot ngare

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    Quote Originally Posted by cptn_star View Post
    it was, is and never a requirement. self explanatory na man ang verse sir. do note that the author of that verse was a persecutor who ordered for the death of christians during his younger years. and then God revealed His grace to him by blinding him, after which his faith, submission and humility made him a new man. from then on, that turning point in paul's life transformed him into a preacher, his good works being a result of his salvation by faith.

    di ta kabayad sa atong kaluwasan sir. not even being drawn, hanged and quartered or being charred to ashes for that cause can pay for our salvation kay taw ra man ta. mabaw ra gyud kaayo kng works ra ang basehan sa kaluwasan sir kay anyone could easily say nga "oy mas balaan pa ko nimo kay naglakaw kog paluhod sa asin padung sa altar kada dominggo". resulta ra gyud nang maayong binuhatan sa tinudanay nga pagtuo.
    ok then so the answer is yes it is not a requirement, so

    if I murdered and stole and hurt people all my life yet I believe jesus is my personal savior and I accept jesus in my heart. Would I be saved after asking for forgiveness?? this implies that I am very faithful esp. in the end when I asked for forgiveness and changed the last 5 years of my life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pakinimo View Post
    graveh nmu oist, d lage mu share. wa man ko nanghilabot ngare
    bisan [ag mag unsa mig yawyaw diri bro useless kay para nimo ang Bible basura unsa may pulos ana among pag share kung dili man gihapon ka interesado

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    Quote Originally Posted by pakinimo View Post
    graveh nmu oist, d lage mu share. wa man ko nanghilabot ngare

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    ok then so the answer is yes it is not a requirement, so

    if I murdered and stole and hurt people all my life yet I believe jesus is my personal savior and I accept jesus in my heart. Would I be saved after asking for forgiveness?? this implies that I am very faithful esp. in the end when I asked for forgiveness and changed the last 5 years of my life.
    yes, you will. i know a pastor who was once a member of the notorious boy allega gang in cebu. he was a murderer, gambler, robber, drug dealer, you name it. he was convicted and there inside the cells of imprisonment, he found freedom. his life entirely changed and eventually he became a pastor ministering to convicts in several prisons. so you see, byproduct ang works sa imong faith.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cptn_star View Post
    yes, you will. i know a pastor who was once a member of the notorious boy allega gang in cebu. he was a murderer, gambler, robber, drug dealer, you name it. he was convicted and there inside the cells of imprisonment, he found freedom. his life entirely changed and eventually he became a pastor ministering to convicts in several prisons. so you see, byproduct ang works sa imong faith.
    ok then, thank u for the answer

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    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    bisan [ag mag unsa mig yawyaw diri bro useless kay para nimo ang Bible basura unsa may pulos ana among pag share kung dili man gihapon ka interesado
    bro dli lage ni about beliefs ngano na ko ngari. abuot people ni, kaning mga beliefs naa rani sa pikas thread

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