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  1. #111

    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Bernard View Post
    I am also curious regarding the origin of Paul the Apostle / Saul of Tarsus. There are stories that instead of Paul and Peter working together, they were rivals and adversaries during the Early Christian times.

    If you have read about the epic battle between St. Peter and Simon Magus, some scholars believe that Simon Magus might be Paul of Tarsus.

    I am an open minded Roman Catholic... I believe in Jesus and the Virgin Mary, but I have doubts on the authenticity of Paul.
    Do not doubt but reject his words. He is dangerous - he might mislead you. My friendly advice =).

  2. #112
    Quote Originally Posted by Aittv View Post
    Do not doubt but reject his words. He is dangerous - he might mislead you. My friendly advice =).
    naa nasad yawyaw without basis.. buot buot hahaha paniudto usa dong gipangita naka sa imo mama..hahaha

  3. #113
    Quote Originally Posted by Aittv View Post
    Pasabot diay sa naguban mo legit dayon na Apostle? Let's see.

    First you have to agree that Jesus served an example during his life with the original Apostles - so the apostles would learn the way of Jesus.

    So what did Jesus do with Judas? Jesus knew he would betray him. Did he reject him or befriend him and let him stay in his ministry?



    Gitubag n nako ni. Basaha akong previous post.
    pahinumdoman tika ha kung balikan lang nimo turongon pag basa ang ACTS 9:1-43

    Si Pablo wala na sugoa pagbautismo sa katawhan...ang iyang tahas ang pag PROCLAIM sa ngalan ni Jesus

    Acts 9:15
    15 But the Lord said to Ananias, “Go! This man is my chosen instrument to proclaim my name to the Gentiles and their kings and to the people of Israel. 16 I will show him how much he must suffer for my name.”

  4. #114
    Quote Originally Posted by Aittv View Post
    Do not doubt but reject his words. He is dangerous - he might mislead you. My friendly advice =).
    It's okay. My relationship with God, Jesus, and Mama Mary doesn't affect on how I view Paul of Tarsus.

  5. #115
    Quote Originally Posted by Aittv View Post
    Do not doubt but reject his words. He is dangerous - he might mislead you. My friendly advice =).
    pag tsur oi...kinsa gud tawon ka...wla man gani ka diha bisan tumoy sa bungot sa kahibalo sa mga apostol mag gara2x ka diha...mura baya kag si quibuloy...the appointed one

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Bernard View Post
    I am also curious regarding the origin of Paul the Apostle / Saul of Tarsus. There are stories that instead of Paul and Peter working together, they were rivals and adversaries during the Early Christian times.

    If you have read about the epic battle between St. Peter and Simon Magus, some scholars believe that Simon Magus might be Paul of Tarsus.

    I am an open minded Roman Catholic... I believe in Jesus and the Virgin Mary, but I have doubts on the authenticity of Paul.

    Jesus gave St. Peter the "keys" and blessed him to be the Rock of His Church. Rome could have inserted Paul, a Roman Citizen, along the storyline to make Christianity Roman.

    just my thoughts.
    ang trabho ni Pedro ug mga apotoles bro...pag baptismo..si Pablo instrument sa pagsasangyaw

    1 Corinthians 1:10-17

    10 I appeal to you, brothers and sisters,[a] in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another in what you say and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly united in mind and thought.

    11 My brothers and sisters, some from Chloe’s household have informed me that there are quarrels among you.

    12
    What I mean is this: One of you says, “I follow Paul”; another, “I follow Apollos”; another, “I follow Cephas[b]”; still another, “I follow Christ.”


    13
    Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized in the name of Paul?

    14
    I thank God that I did not baptize any of you except Crispus and Gaius,

    15
    so no one can say that you were baptized in my name.

    16 (Yes, I also baptized the household of Stephanas; beyond that, I don’t remember if I baptized anyone else.)

    17For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel—not with wisdom and eloquence, lest the cross of Christ be emptied of its power.
    Last edited by slabdans; 02-21-2014 at 12:06 PM.

  6. #116
    Maybe... Pero wala paman gud ta anang mga panahona bro. Mao pod na makapa kutaw sa atong curiousity.

    Ang mga original apostles ni Jesus, nagka katag2x atong panahona sa pag sangyaw. Pag Council ug Nicea, nagka sinabot sila nga ang tinuod nga Christianity kay ang Roman Catholic, ang uban Christian sects nga dili mo sunod sa Rome considered as heretics.

    Now, there is a true story about St Thomas the Doubter. Na abot siya sa India ug preach Christianity, siya ang founder didto sa India. Pag abot sa Europeans sa India a few years later, ilang ge persecute ang Christians founded by St Thomas.

    It's not that I fully support what the TS is pointing at... but for me, it gives me a goosebump regarding Paul's historicity, as well as with St. Peter's.
    Last edited by Scott Bernard; 02-21-2014 at 12:16 PM.

  7. #117
    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Bernard View Post
    Maybe... Pero wala paman gud ta anang mga panahona bro. Mao pod na makapa kutaw sa atong curiousity.

    Ang mga original apostles ni Jesus, nagka katag2x atong panahona sa pag sangyaw. Pag Council ug Nicea, nagka sinabot sila nga ang tinuod nga Christianity kay ang Roman Catholic, ang uban Christian sects nga dili mo sunod sa Rome considered as heretics.

    Now, there is a true story about St Thomas the Doubter. Na abot siya sa India ug preach Christianity, siya ang founder didto sa India. Pag abot sa Europeans sa India a few years later, ilang ge persecute ang Christians founded by St Thomas.
    mao gyud bro..tungod ana naay nigimaw nga dili ingon nato ron ai gusto ta patuohon nga dili daw katuohan si Pablo

  8. #118
    asa naman ka TS? wala na e reveal sa imong God ang kamatuoran nimo mao wala naka katingog diha? akoang God diri daghan pag bala
    Last edited by slabdans; 02-21-2014 at 02:01 PM.

  9. #119
    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    pahinumdoman tika ha kung balikan lang nimo turongon pag basa ang ACTS 9:1-43

    Si Pablo wala na sugoa pagbautismo sa katawhan...ang iyang tahas ang pag PROCLAIM sa ngalan ni Jesus
    Nagsulti ba ko mag bautismo sya? Please pakibasa usab.
    Acts 9:15
    15 But the Lord said to Ananias, “Go! This man is my chosen instrument to proclaim my name to the Gentiles and their kings and to the people of Israel. 16 I will show him how much he must suffer for my name.”
    Matthew 24 26-27
    "So if they say to you, 'Behold, He is in the wilderness(means "outside the city" not forest),' do not go out, or, 'Behold, He is in the inner rooms,' do not believe them. "For just as the lightning comes from the east and flashes even to the west, so will the coming of the Son of Man be.…"


    Asa ni sila atong nahitabo ni?

    Naa na sa imuha kung magpaliba ka sa ilaha. Warning na ni Jesus mismo - sa tanan apostles si Paul lang ang naconvert through an angel of light(blindness). -Dili ba angel of Light si Lucifer? Lucifer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Tnawon nato ang miracle ni Prophet Muhamad.

    "I saw a pillar of light exactly over my head, above the brightness of the sun, which descended gradually until it fell upon me…When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name, and said, pointing to the other, 'This is my Beloved Son. Hear Him!'"


    Similar or Coincidence?

  10. #120
    Naa ra TS oh pakibasa nlng sa link: Paul: False Prophet? Or True Apostle?

    Matthew 24:24 - "For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect."

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