For Christians(Apostle Paul Believers): Paul, the False Apostle, Ravenous Wolf Prophecy - Ngano nagpauto man mo niya??

[nausicaa]

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We are all sinners, do not forget this.

It is very useful occasionally to look at the past to gain a perspective on the present,
You have just implied that Paul is a sinner,yes, he is and so we all are. right? okay, here goes,..
I want you to explain, Are we to love the sinner but hate the sin?

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Please, be keen of your answer ts.

[Aittv]

It is very useful occasionally to look at the past to gain a perspective on the present,
You have just implied that Paul is a sinner,yes, he is and so we all are. right? okay, here goes,..
I want you to explain, Are we to love the sinner but hate the sin?

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Please, be keen of your answer ts.

Yes. Why do I need to explain?

[nausicaa]

****Have you read/researched about doctrines/writings/life of apostle Paul and noticed why there many contradictions in it and many unbelievable stories(specially his conversion)? Have you ever wondered why there are many Christian denominations today? I'll tell you why Paul is a murderer, a pharisee, a liar, a false apostle, a divider of the church(with his dangerous doctrine).

First let's read about the prophecy of the tribe of Benjamin / ravenous wolves in Genesis/Matthew.

Genesis 49 27 “Benjamin is a ravenous wolf;
in the morning he devours the prey,
in the evening he divides the plunder.”

Matthew 7 15-20 “Watch out for false prophets(or false teachers). They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious(or ravenous) wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.

So why was "ravenous wolf" term used here by both.

****First read this >>> Why Dogs Can Be Tamed But Wolves Cannot. In short a wolf cannot be tamed. What he was in the beginning is what he will be in the end(still ravenous).

Now who is from the tribe of Benjamin? Who is the ravenous wolf - who will at first(in the morning) devours the prey, next(in the evening) divides the plunder?

Rom 11:1
I say then, Elohiym has not cast away His people. Because I am also an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, OF THE TRIBE OF BENJAMIN.

Philippians 3: 5
Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;

****Now we already know for sure that Paul was of the tribe of Benjamin. We also know that Paul was persecutor of the saints/apostles then after that a miraculous change happened after seeing light from heaven who claims to be Jesus.

Now let's if see this fits:
In the morning devours the prey, in the evening divides the plunder. [In the morning] = [Before or First], [In the evening] = [After or Last], [devours the prey] = [a killer or a murderer or a persecutor], [divide the spoil] = [divide the loot/church/people/christians].

****No doubt this verse talks about Paul. He was a persecutor of the saints at before, and after he divided the people.(see how many Christian denominations today ex. Paulinian messianic Jew/ Anti-Paul messianic Jew, Roman Catholic, Protestant, many more...). He never changed his ways but only changed his image(remember wolf in sheep's clothing..awoooo!).

Now on Paul's Conversion:

Acts of the Apostles 9
Suddenly, while he was traveling to Damascus and just before he reached the city, there came a light from heaven all around him. He fell to the ground, and then he heard a voice saying, "Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting me?" "Who are you, Lord?" he asked, and the voice answered, "I am Jesus, and you are persecuting me. Get up now and go into the city, and you will be told what you have to do." The men traveling with Saul stood there speechless, for though they had heard the voice they could see no one. Saul got up from the ground, but even with his eyes wide open he could see nothing at all, and they had to lead him into Damascus by the hand. For three days he was without his sight, and took neither food nor drink.

****His conversion is unique but suspicious. What did the Timothy say/warn about Paul while he was with him.

2 Corinthians 11 13-15
For such people are false apostles,deceitful workers, masquerading as apostles of Christ.
And no wonder,for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.

****Some laugh and say that this was written by Paul. But it's not true, you can determine Paul's writings because -> it is hard to understand, boastful and there are techniques used to determine it(ex. tone).

Paul the apostle and "Timothy our brother" wrote this epistle to "the church of God which is at Corinth, with all the saints which are in all Achaia.
source -> Second Epistle to the Corinthians - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

People wonder why did they let Paul get along with them if they knew he was an enemy and why Peter acknowledged Paul?

****Remember Jesus commandment to his true Disciple/Apostles/Follower? Let's read Matthew again.

Matthew 5: 43 -45
Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

Pro-Paul common stance/ usual reply:
Look at this verse: Romans: blahx2... Philippians: blahx3.... They agree with each other's doctrine with Matthew blahx2.. and Peter blahx2..

****Please don't use a teaching of Paul that makes sense to solve another doctrine of his that is a lie. Remember what Paul was? -> a Pharisee -> if he was alive today, a lawyer(what do lawyers do?). Do you know how good liars lie? If not read this -> Half-truth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Picking out truths does not answer/solve/correct/fix the lies in the scriptures as he is using half-truth technique. Paul's doctrine is very dangerous - there are plenty of victims already.

****This verse is just an example of the dangerous doctrine of Paul(Personally I have seen many people/denomination mislead by this line/verse). There are also many other contradictions and false doctrines,you can research/google them.

Example of Contradictions:

Romans 10:9 Paul
that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;

Matthew 7:21 Jesus
"Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.

More from other sites:
Paul Contradicts Jesus
Paul's Contradictions of Jesus

Example of Apostle Pauls arrogance and boastfulness:(There are many - just research for it)

1 Corinthians 15:10
But by the grace of God I am what I am, and His grace toward me did not prove vain; but I labored even more than all of them, yet not I, but the grace of God with me.

****Notice Paul uses the word I more than any other apostles.

****Best Solution: Avoid Paul's dangerous doctrines and follow only the doctrine/commandments of Jesus.

Psalm 19:7
The law of the LORD is perfect, restoring the soul; The testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.

Because of this!.

[LiveHigh1987]

TS, all I can say is that, have you ever thought of being part of the deception when you posted this thread? And btw, Paul was not making his doctrines. Those doctrines were from God. Are you saying that the Holy Bible is flawed?? Wa ka kuyapi?

[iron_cross]

these are all taken out of context...the Church fathers have already made it clear and they have scrutinized every detail of Paul's actions and teachings. They have spent years/decades studying these, who are we to question their authority?

[Aittv]

Because of this!.

Is exposing the truth hate?

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these are all taken out of context...the Church fathers have already made it clear and they have scrutinized every detail of Paul's actions and teachings. They have spent years/decades studying these, who are we to question their authority?

There are many who question their authority. Just look back at history - did you already forget about Protestants?

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TS, all I can say is that, have you ever thought of being part of the deception when you posted this thread? And btw, Paul was not making his doctrines. Those doctrines were from God. Are you saying that the Holy Bible is flawed?? Wa ka kuyapi?

If you study the bible then you would know.

[slabdans]

Is exposing the truth hate?

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There are many who question their authority. Just look back at history - did you already forget about Protestants?

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If you study the bible then you would know.

nganong dili man nimo kompletohon ang pasahe? kana Testimony lagi na ni Pablo kung unsa siya kaniadto...ayaw putla para lang sa imong tumong..ug ayaw pamili sa imong replyan kung matuod kang nag sangyaw sa kamatuoran

[iron_cross]

There are many who question their authority. Just look back at history - did you already forget about Protestants?

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If you study the bible then you would know.

ok, but what do you think about the belief of the early church fathers? do you think they have not considered these theories? different angles?
if you study the bible, study it according to what the Church interprets and not according to your own interpretation.

[Aittv]

ok, but what do you think about the belief of the early church fathers? do you think they have not considered these theories? different angles?
if you study the bible, study it according to what the Church interprets and not according to your own interpretation.

I considered both angles. As I posted before at first I was a believer of him until God revealed it to me. I would not post here if I wasn't sure enough. Sorry to say your church fathers were deceived.

[Aittv]

nganong dili man nimo kompletohon ang pasahe? kana Testimony lagi na ni Pablo kung unsa siya kaniadto...ayaw putla para lang sa imong tumong..ug ayaw pamili sa imong replyan kung matuod kang nag sangyaw sa kamatuoran

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