Removing skywalks’ roofs?!

[omad]

@omad: nice and brilliant idea, brad... however, you should consider safety. if you're paying a hefty amount for ads, you need to have a huge billboard to go with it.... one that everyone can clearly see.. now, even those that are put on top of the buildings can distract motorists how much more if it's right there in the middle of the road?! you don't necessarily need a 60ft billboard placed on the skywalks. if you check the proposed rental price, which if P15k per side, that would probably be 2 meters tall and the whole length across. so 2 meters (from the lowest portion of skywalk overhang -whatever they call it- up to about a foot above the top of the railings) by 30m or 40m probably. ad agencies could charge their customers as much as 30k-40k per side.

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already we have a number of motorist complaining of being distracted by these ads.. even in Manila, after that big typhoon that hit them causing those billboards to fall off, MMDA took them out immediately and imposed a ban/stricter regulation.

sub-standard billboards were taken out not because of the "distraction" issue posed to motorist but because of the way they were built. billboard advertising ban is only for tobacco, for now. as far as distraction of motorists, I am more distracted by the names of politicians on the skywalks than ads.

there's no study that relates to traffic accidents caused by billboard ads. if there were, the result would probably be inconclusive. GPS systems as well as in-car DVD's would not be introduced in the market if there was a clear connection between accidents and those gadgets. the same holds true with billboards. if you've personally seen the lights in Vegas, those I tell you are more distracting than billboards, why didn't that city ban them??

it would all boil down to this, drivers should always keep their eyes on the road.

[omad]

lets try to experiment and remove the roof of one skywalk diha dapits robinsons... obserbahan nato maayo bag resulta then we'll say our piece after this is not a 5 peso worth of experiment we're talking about here. it involves our sanity as well as the safety of pedestrians whom we first envisioned before building these skywalks.

our sanity, because as educated individuals, we prefer to address a simple problem in a very stupid manner like "removing the roof" off of the skywalks.

our safety, because as designed by architects, the roof would shelter pedestrians from rain and direct sunlight while passing thru it. during rainy season, granting that the anti jay-walking law is not consistently implemented in this part of the city and the roof of the skywalks removed, pedestrians would use the skywalk's shade and instead cross the street underneath it. if you're driving in heavy rains, imagine how difficult it is to maneuver the vehicle you're driving because of visibility issues. put a pedestrian in that equation, isn't it ironic to hear " a pedestrian was a victim of a hit and run that happened below the skywalk".

imagine that pedestrian was your brother, your sister, your wife, your parent or worse... your kid. now tell me if you still want the roof off the skywalk??

I don't think you can still say your piece after such tragedy...

[omad]

Government Figured it out already... government all have the resources, they much have thought about your proposal before and after these sky-walks was build... figured it out already? in which way?

but still, they prefer taking out the roof instead? what a pity...

would you still be proud to be called Cebuanos when all we came up -after a lengthy discussion to get rid of mendicants, vendors, drug-addicts and what have you- is to remove the roof of the skywalks?

[taga_ipil]

this is not a 5 peso worth of experiment we're talking about here. it involves our sanity as well as the safety of pedestrians whom we first envisioned before building these skywalks.

our sanity, because as educated individuals, we prefer to address a simple problem in a very stupid manner like "removing the roof" off of the skywalks.

our safety, because as designed by architects, the roof would shelter pedestrians from rain and direct sunlight while passing thru it. granting that the anti jay-walking law is not consistently implemented in this part of the city and the roof of the skywalks removed, pedestrians would use the skywalk's shade and instead cross the street underneath it. if you're driving in heavy rains, imagine how difficult it is to maneuver the vehicle you're driving because of visibility issues. put a pedestrian in that equation, isn't it ironic to hear " a pedestrian was a victim of a hit and run that happened below the skywalk".

imagine that pedestrian was your brother, your sister, your wife, your parent or worse... your kid. now tell me if you still want the roof off the skywalk??

I don't think you can still say your piece after such tragedy...

Where is the stupidity on that part?
That is the easiest and closest solutions... rather put up some agencies or security guard whatever, commercial chubbaness..ek-ek-ek...
plain and simple solutions...
Di nalang jud ka antos ug pipila ka minuto or di man gani na kaabot nga lakwon...
when I was in ortigas.. they do have beautiful skywalks with no roof on it.

[taga_ipil]

figured it out already? in which way?

but still, they prefer taking out the roof instead? what a pity...

would you still be proud to be called Cebuanos when all we came up -after a lengthy discussion to get rid of mendicants, vendors, drug-addicts and what have you- is to remove the roof of the skywalks?

mao ba nay sukdanan sa pagka-cebuanos?
why are you so much attached on this solutions... and your quite familiar with the fee of advertising.. why?
do you have some commission when this so called proposal of your will work...

I am actually waiting for the approval of my account in the Cebu City Government's Forum so I can post this particular solution and hope T.O. reads it, (does he even really read this stuff?). sending an e-mail to Sun.Star thru its Speak Out column is also an option. 'coz I have a couple more sensible and doable ideas such as "adopt a skywalk". companies could sponsor a barangay tanod (pay their honoraria) who would double as a maintenance person for each skywalk. they would be stationed in the vicinity 24/7 but in shifts. I am not familiar with the legality of such proposal but the city can figure out a way for sure.

[omad]

Where is the stupidity on that part?
That is the easiest and closest solutions... rather put up some agencies or security guard whatever, commercial chubbaness..ek-ek-ek...
plain and simple solutions...
Di nalang jud ka antos ug pipila ka minuto or di man gani na kaabot nga lakwon...
the stupid part? that part where you were supposed to read and understand "the roof of the skywalk was designed with safety in mind".

did you read "dili ka antos ug pipila ka minuto lakwon"? please point it out in your quoted reply.

again, please read... and here comes the best part: AND UNDERSTAND what you're reading before quoting somebody.
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our safety, because as designed by architects, the roof would shelter pedestrians from rain and direct sunlight while passing thru it. granting that the anti jay-walking law is not consistently implemented in this part of the city and the roof of the skywalks removed, pedestrians would use the skywalk's shade and instead cross the street underneath it. if you're driving in heavy rains, imagine how difficult it is to maneuver the vehicle you're driving because of visibility issues. put a pedestrian in that equation, isn't it ironic to hear " a pedestrian was a victim of a hit and run that happened below the skywalk".

imagine that pedestrian was your brother, your sister, your wife, your parent or worse... your kid. now tell me if you still want the roof off the skywalk??
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[omad]

mao ba nay sukdanan sa pagka-cebuanos?
why are you so much attached on this solutions... and your quite familiar with the fee of advertising.. why?
do you have some commission when this so called proposal of your will work...

I am living comfortably where I'm at and I don't need commissions for giving a very simple suggestion, but thanks for asking.

giving out proactive solutions to a simple problem is one good character of a Cebuano.

[omad]

here's another suggestion:

why not ask Robinson's or any big establishments to adopt the skywalks close to them?

since both skywalks lead to their store, why not have their security guards include it during their roving schedule? they have security guard stationed pretty close to those structures, so why not give them the authority to escort/remove mendicants from it?

both the city and the management of these buildings can come up with agreements let's say tax breaks of some sort?

[taga_ipil]

the stupid part? that part where you were supposed to read and understand "the roof of the skywalk was designed with safety in mind".

did you read "dili ka antos ug pipila ka minuto lakwon"? please point it out in your quoted reply.

again, please read... and here's comes the best part: AND UNDERSTAND what you're reading before quoting somebody.
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our safety, because as designed by architects, the roof would shelter pedestrians from rain and direct sunlight while passing thru it. granting that the anti jay-walking law is not consistently implemented in this part of the city and the roof of the skywalks removed, pedestrians would use the skywalk's shade and instead cross the street underneath it. if you're driving in heavy rains, imagine how difficult it is to maneuver the vehicle you're driving because of visibility issues. put a pedestrian in that equation, isn't it ironic to hear " a pedestrian was a victim of a hit and run that happened below the skywalk".

imagine that pedestrian was your brother, your sister, your wife, your parent or worse... your kid. now tell me if you still want the roof off the skywalk??
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Don't you get it...

because as designed by architects, the roof would shelter pedestrians from rain and direct sunlight while passing thru it. granting that the anti jay-walking law is not consistently implemented in this part of the city and the roof of the skywalks removed, pedestrians would use the skywalk's shade and instead cross the street underneath it. if you're driving in heavy rains, imagine how difficult it is to maneuver the vehicle you're driving because of visibility issues. put a pedestrian in that equation, isn't it ironic to hear " a pedestrian was a victim of a hit and run that happened below the skywalk".

You just use it to walk for a minute or LESS... aha man ang danger ana?
Rain? why... naa bay uwan ka tibouk adlaw?
Direct Sunlight? why, will you get burn when your skin will be exposed to sunlight for a minute or less..?!
Skywalks are only use temporarily from one point to the other.. it wont take a minute... di nalang jud ka ka antos...

did you read "dili ka antos ug pipila ka minuto lakwon"? please point it out in your quoted reply.

ka klaro ana akong g-pointan... or di lang jud ka kasabot?
okay cge ako i-quote ang akong g-pointan para maka sabot ka ug taong... mao ni oh..

imagine that pedestrian was your brother, your sister, your wife, your parent or worse... your kid. now tell me if you still want the roof off the skywalk??

again, please read... and here's comes the best part: AND UNDERSTAND what you're reading before quoting somebody.

Obviously.. murag ikaw ang wa ka sabot...

[omad]

Don't you get it... OT: let those people reading our conversation be the judge of that.

You just use it to walk for a minute or LESS... aha man ang danger ana?
Rain? why... naa bay uwan ka tibouk adlaw?

akong binisay-on para imong masabtan. kung mag uwan ug kusog inig tempo tingpani-udto, walay atop ang skywalk, asa man mo-agi ang mga tawo kung molabang balik sa ilang opisina? ang mga estudyante sa Abellana asa mo-agi? sa ibabaw sa skywalk nga mabasa sila? o sa ilawom nga naay landong gamay?

so kung sa ilawom mo-agi, kung familiar ka mag drive ug kusog ang ulan, di ba maglisod man kag tan-aw sa unahan? inig ka disgrasya, madasmagan ang pedestrian. ibalik na sad nato ang atop sa skywalk kay naay naaksidente? kasabot na ka?