Online Signature Campaign(abolish pork barrel of any name/form)

[Nefarian]

Ang projects bai kay usually nka focus sah big infrastructures, walay panahon ang presidente mo subay or nasweto sah problema sah usa ka lokalidad kay wala nah sya didto... kinsa ang mas nasweto sa problema sah mga localidad? ang mga congressman who itself is the representative of certain population/people. Now, karon nahan i-veto sah president... I'm sure kun asa ang duol sah iya heart mao ragyud nah ang matagad, unfair samot kaau... mega manila will become more MEGA if ang natio-government ang mag handle even sah mga small projects...

Health? DOH is natio-gov pero limited rah ila budget pud mao nang ang PDAF sah congressmen pwede i-allocate ana.

Structures? DPWH, seriously they have a bigger problems of their own.. how much more if added the entire problems down to sito level.

Housing? NHA, a natio-gov still has bigger problems of their own.. and so on.

While the government is focus mostly on bigger cities or projects, Congressmens PDAF can be funneled to small projects like brgy drainage etc kay usually ang DSWD dili nah mo handle dra kay nka prioritize sila sah mga dagko nga projects. Kun naa man gani nangurakot, I agree dapat silotan.. pero d man sad tanan ana dautan ang nahimo naa man igo sad gyud nabuhat sakto.. only your judgement is clearly clouded by one thing. Why don't you look at the bigger picture, gamay rah kaau nang imong panglantaw.

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way sounded like a communist propagandist style to me.

Ok then tell me what has PDAF got to do with Senators? Do they represent a district too? Do you think they know sitio Nangka? All of those Senators are mostly from Luzon. I think these Senators are the reason Mega Manila became MEGA MANILA.

CDF now PDAF is really good in the papers but the reality is "Action speaks louder than words". Almost all our remote provinces are the same except our HONORABLE Congressman's lifestyle.

Look at how pork evolved through the years:
‘Pork’ through the years: It got complicated

From a small worm to a gigantic snake who wants to swallow us whole.

[Nefarian]

AFAIK constitutional correction would do best instead of charter change. So instead of drafting laws why not refined the current one. PDAF had been made for the use of the people, now we see it being abused so abolishing it is not the proper way to do but instead of looking out to the people who controls it to prevent it to be used for personal affairs.

A lot of refinements are already made in the past. But NOT to the benefit of the people but to the Congressmen and Senators. It's a milking cow for these so-called Honorables.

Look at how pork evolved from a simple worm to a Dragon.

‘Pork’ through the years: It got complicated

[elvandesantos]

Ok then tell me what has PDAF got to do with Senators? Do they represent a district too? Do you think they know sitio Nangka? All of those Senators are mostly from Luzon. I think these Senators are the reason Mega Manila became MEGA MANILA.

CDF now PDAF is really good in the papers but the reality is "Action speaks louder than words". Almost all our remote provinces are the same except our HONORABLE Congressman's lifestyle.

Look at how pork evolved through the years:
‘Pork’ through the years: It got complicated

From a small worm to a gigantic snake who wants to swallow us whole.

Senate is voted nationally, so he or she has the choice where the allocated PDAF will go through... It would be a matter of choice for him much like the president. Why? simple.

Congressmen=voted by people in districts assigned to the congressmen, naturally all budget allocated for the representative will be spent if not focused to his constituent.

Senate=voted nationally, obviously the senator has wider grounds to cover for the budget that is why they have bigger chunks of the pie... where he chooses to spend the fund for projects depends differently. Though some senators didn't even made full use of their funds in a year, a waste of allocated funds though.

President=all projects submitted by congressmen used to be approved by the president, depending on how close or different your opinions of the president would matter how he would approve such projects you submitted for approval. PDAF gaves the congressmen themselves the authority to spend on projects from big bridges down to small canal dig-outs on sitios... even if your not allied to the current administration... representatives can still provide projects big or small to his constituent without the harassment of the natio-gov.

Overall- The president having the power to control the projects big or small, will surely eliminate opposition leaders in return of projects to be approved. Once again, the law has flaws I get that... but it doesn't mean we need to abolish it simply a waste of time, money and energy...

Just refining the current PDAF law would be ideal since lawmakers already know the flaws on it, creating a solution would be easy. Unlike creating another wasted law that will spend another 20years for lawmakers or common people to know the exact flaw of the law that it replaced... And the of mass people doing this one right here will be once again highlighted-all over again because of another yet FLAW.

[Nefarian]

Senate is voted nationally, so he or she has the choice where the allocated PDAF will go through... It would be a matter of choice for him much like the president. Why? simple.

Congressmen=voted by people in districts assigned to the congressmen, naturally all budget allocated for the representative will be spent if not focused to his constituent.

Senate=voted nationally, obviously the senator has wider grounds to cover for the budget that is why they have bigger chunks of the pie... where he chooses to spend the fund for projects depends differently. Though some senators didn't even made full use of their funds in a year, a waste of allocated funds though.

President=all projects submitted by congressmen used to be approved by the president, depending on how close or different your opinions of the president would matter how he would approve such projects you submitted for approval. PDAF gaves the congressmen themselves the authority to spend on projects from big bridges down to small canal dig-outs on sitios... even if your not allied to the current administration... representatives can still provide projects big or small to his constituent without the harassment of the natio-gov.

When you say "matter of choice", it defeats the purpose of a Congress. Discretion is what makes these Congressmen/Senators who they are now.

And about "if you are not allied to the President you can still provide projects". Ask some non-ally lawmakers and Chiz Escudero about that.

You are always talking to an "almost perfect system". I prefer results but sadly it's NOT what we experienced now.

[Nefarian]

1990 up to now a lot of "refinements" or should I say "more loopholes" were made in PDAF.

"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me"

Since we both have different views on these then let's hope a "foolproof" solution will show itself in the coming days.

[elvandesantos]

When you say "matter of choice", it defeats the purpose of a Congress. Discretion is what makes these Congressmen/Senators who they are now.

And about "if you are not allied to the President you can still provide projects". Ask some non-ally lawmakers and Chiz Escudero about that.

You are always talking to an "almost perfect system". I prefer results but sadly it's NOT what we experienced now.

Matter of choice/preferences on where he is prioritizing the fund to be spent on projects. He has choices to prioritize other provinces who he thinks is well deserving or much needed.

About Chiz, his not in favor of eliminating PDAF as he know the importance of it for projects overlooked... but PDAF also is used to set independence of congress, senate and the president.

and sorry to burst your bubbles here, I don't believe on NIRVANA Law existing anywhere in the world. Minimal corruption maybe, but all-free corruption law or world for that matter? Kill me now.

I just look on the world widely and openly. Considered so many options and not closing doors for any options not worse. Innovation does not mean eliminations, but rather opening up ideas regarding the flaws and possible ways to improve. Why? I work for a person who do workshops for innovation, much like Steve Jobs and other big persons.

[ghostie2472]

way sounded like a communist propagandist style to me.

That's exactly what I had in mind.

[whiteKelso]

PDAF should be eliminated coz it can be stolen.

[crossramz]

PDAF should be eliminated coz it can be stolen.

say what? and you are suggesting that only national govt should control all the budget implementation?

[M.A.D.]

Get rid of PDAF and DAP. Don't allow legislators to control the budget.

Make a process where LGUs will be the ones directly asking for budget releases from DBM or its equivalent. This will then be reviewed by a civilian agency who are experts in their fields but they will only be consulting/advisory group. The implementation of the project should then be carried out by an operation that is 50% gov't/50% private to be overseen by the civilian agency.

So you have three different groups of people with three different interests overlooking how taxes are spent.