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    Quote Originally Posted by jai963214 View Post
    Sa ila interpretation sa constitution dili illegal, pero matod pa sa usa sa nagpanday sa atong constitution illegal kuno. Maayo pa ug manghilom na lang sila, kay mosumbalik ra nila ila gisulti. Si Abad bitaw pa-ingon2x wa silay gihatag nga "reward PDAF", gi-usab ra diay ang termino. Pastilan!!!
    here is Article VI, Sec. 25 (5)

    (5) No law shall be passed authorizing any transfer of appropriations; however, the President, the President of the Senate, the Speaker of the House of Representatives, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, and the heads of Constitutional Commissions may, by law, be authorized to augment any item in the general appropriations law for their respective offices from savings in other items of their respective appropriations.
    Now there are two things here that details why DAP was not justified with this section right away.

    1. DAP was not taken from savings from items in authorized appropriations. Instead it was siphoned from authorized appropriations from projects that have not been enacted yet. If the money for an authorized appropriation has not been used, then you cant call that savings--and the section only says "from savings"

    2. DAP was not used to augment any items in the 2012 budget/GAA--which has to be authorized by Congress. It was used for NEW appropriations created solely by the executive, which it cannot do.
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    "by law" so kinahanglan diay ni ug Nod sa Congress aron ma authorized na sila ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by amingb View Post
    "by law" so kinahanglan diay ni ug Nod sa Congress aron ma authorized na sila ....
    kylangan ug nod sa congress ang appropriation BEFORE the president can augment from his savings to the appropriation. Had the DAP been authorized by congress in the GAA beforehand then that takes care of that part of the problem.

    The problem here is, the BDM (and in effect the president, because he has to authorize these things) augmented an appropriation that was not part of of GAA 2012, from funds that were not savings but siphoned from congress-authorized appropriations that have not been completed. That is a double whammy. Budget matters have to go through congress because they have the power of the purse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amingb View Post
    "by law" so kinahanglan diay ni ug Nod sa Congress aron ma authorized na sila ....
    yes needed gyud approval sa congress.
    pareho anang mo ask kag refund sa tax imo na bayad kay na sobra mo agi na sa congress.

    kay ngano tanan kuwarta toa ra gyud sa bureau of treasury. tanan kuwarta e take-out sa BoT mo agi sa congresso.

    mao ni inyo timan-e sa pag bayad ninyo ug tax deretso na sa BoT dili sa BIR.
    tan-awa ninyo kung mag bayad diba account na sa BoT.

    contrary ni sa gi ingon sa TS nga ang DBM naka saving 4B. hehehe dili man ang DBM tig hatag ug kuwarta. Ang BoT may tig hatag. kung naay savings mangali sa 4B toara na sa BoT.

    ang congresso ra gyud maka hilabot anang savings. maong mag alburuto na sila kung naay savings.

  5. #45
    mao ni sulti ni malacanyang ... Palace cites Constitution to defend DAP .. legal ilaha gibuhat daw according to valte ... binastosay nadaw ni matod pang Diokno ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by redemption32 View Post
    I honestly don't know what motivated PNoy to pursue the impeachment of Corona. However, I really disagree that the distribution of the HLI should be credited to PNoy just because CJ Corona revived the issue and distributed it to the farmers.
    If it were that easy for Corona to do that, it should've been also too easy for the PNoy to readily distribute the HLI to the farmers without the SC resolution.

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    Are we waiting for the terms of everyone else to judge them?? What's makes him special then??
    Is it neutral to hold PNoy in different standards as the rest of them?
    And how sure are you that it's not Pnoy's intention to distribute the HL? MAYBE giunhan lang jud siya ni Corona aron makaingon ta mao na rason ngano galagot si Pnoy niya.


    Walay special niya mao bitaw ingon siya ug naa moy kaso then i file. As of now KMP pay ni file ug kaso.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nardskey View Post
    kaning ila gibuhat naa ra gihapon ni kinotuban. Ang ato lang ani magbinantayun na lang ta sa kuwarta sa panudlanan sa atong pang-governo. Ang nakapait jud natong mga pilipinhon sa panahun sa eleksyon naa man gihapon madala sa pinalitay sa mga trapo na politiko. Manghinaot ta na ma edukar na kitang tanan sa nahitabo sa atong pang-governo karun.

    Ug gibuhat lang sa Comelec ilang trabaho lisod ni unta makalusot pero kadungog mo sa news karon? Naay usa ka Mayor sa dako na municipality matangtang sa puwesto tungod sa vote buying.

    As of now AFAIK, ang matangtang sa puwesto ron kay sila Gov. Ejercito sa Laguna, Naa pato usa ka gobernor sa lain na town pero kalimot ko, ug karon kanang giingon nga usa ka mayor.

    Usa ra akong na observe karon bahin aning Comelec, diri rajud na administrasyon naay AGI ang Comelec sa pagpatupad aning ilang balaod. Hahaha bash me on this nasad lol.

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    If this is true the President did spend a lot of money just to ensure that a much bigger crocodile would be placed in cage for good. The aim is noble but the execution is quite deftly illicit. He the President did not try going against the flow for it's futile,
    the mechanism to fulfill needs to be fed and requires abidance.
    The governance nowadays looks politically complicated but could easily be simplified if money is on the fray.

  9. #49
    Si Estrada nisumbong about sa supposed suborno for CJ Corona's impeachment pero cya ngano karon ra man ni reklamo ug nidawat pa gyud? Doble na nuon iyang issue PDAF Scam ug DAP...

  10. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by Nefarian View Post
    And how sure are you that it's not Pnoy's intention to distribute the HL? MAYBE giunhan lang jud siya ni Corona aron makaingon ta mao na rason ngano galagot si Pnoy niya.
    Ugh! This post just wants me to scream "bloody idiot!!!!!!!".

    Alright, I'm out.

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