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  1. #71

    Quote Originally Posted by psychologic View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by burn777 View Post
    If you believe in God. You do not need religion because it divides the people and sets boundaries.
    ikaw bro, naa kay God.. if naa kinsa imong God?
    ani jud mag start nga mainit ang dungan..
    psst relax ramo ha, ayaw mo ka strong..chill2x lang ta dria..heheh

  2. #72
    Hahaha, debate napod ni padung...

  3. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by Sigbin Puti View Post
    If religion makes you a better person, then go ahead and believe. Religion has drawbacks though, ours for instance; I really hate catholics who think agnostics and atheists have special places in hell.
    Salvation is a mystery only known to God. the judgement seat is of God and not of men.

    the Catechism of the Catholic Church teaches about the possibilities of Salvation outside the church. CCC paragraph 847

    "Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - those too may achieve eternal salvation."

    and specifically talks about Atheism in CCC 2125

    "Since it rejects or denies the existence of God, atheism is a sin against the virtue of religion. The imputability of this offense can be significantly diminished in virtue of the intentions and the circumstances."

    therefore in the teachings of the Catholic Church, Salvation is not denied to Atheists although Atheism in itself is a direct Sin to God.
    salvation in terms of purity of intention,kindness of the heart and soul
    and sincerity of Atheistic point of view( which means if mao jud ang naabut sa imung konsensya ug pagsabut nga walay Ginoo sa limpyo ug matuod nga pagsusi).

    the Church believes that Christ died for ALL, including those who do not believe in Him or do not believe in God at all. the Church may be necessary for Salvation buyt it is Christ that saves.

    so i hope this would bring light to your ill feelings towards Catholics who said you have a special place in Hell..because those people seem to have misunderstood God's love Love and Mercy and what the Church teaches about the mystery of Salvation.. i hope you can find a way to excuse them.
    personally, i think it should be the other way around. you guys have a special place in God's heart.

    pwede pud ni nimu kalingawan ug basa2x
    Pope Francis says atheists can do good and go to heaven too! - Living Faith - Home & Family - Catholic Online

    Quote Originally Posted by Sigbin Puti View Post
    Some of my friends tell me that there's nothing wrong in believing. But some people just don't get that there's also nothing wrong in disbelieving...
    if God is not real bro then there surely is nothing wrong with disbelief.

    at the time of your death, if there's no God that would meet you to give you an accounting of your deeds and consciecne. then let me congratulate you in advance.

    if otherwise, it's between you and the Lord. Salvation again is a mystery only known to God. God's mercy and Love can never be restricted to believers alone.

    you have my prayers.

    OnT: obviously i'm catholic, so catholicism for me is the true religion for through this Church i became a better person..i think... LOL
    Last edited by noy; 09-18-2013 at 06:15 PM. Reason: butang-butang style sa font..

  4. #74
    taym pa ra gud.... what is TRUE?

  5. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by Bears Grill View Post
    The evil of religion starts when they proclaim that theirs is the true religion and that people who don't belong to their group all go to h-e-l-l. It's easy to de-humanize people whom you think are destined for h-e-l-l by virtue of their disbelief or of their having a different belief. As one Catholic fanatic a few posts before this said, they're just as "un-important as a pebble being kicked around in the beach." This arrogant fanatic also went on to say that ONLY the Catholic Church preaches the "ideal way of being". Yeah right. So ideal, just like all the Father Fondles, Monsignor Molesters, Mitsu-bishops, and Cardinal Cover-ups of the world. With Catholic promoters like these, is it any wonder why the churches in Western Europe are empty or why there's a Time magazine cover entitled "The Latino Reformation"?
    i believe you missed the part where he said "not all catholics are ideal" bears.

    and the church does not teach that those who are not Catholic will go to Hell..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Passport View Post
    taym pa ra gud.... what is TRUE?
    kanta sa spandau ballet.. LOL

  6. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by salbahis View Post
    somehow maka ingon sad kos a uban taw nga kusog mosita sa uban tinuohan nga murag wala tudloi ug respeto sa ilahang tinuhuan...

    IHMO... Religion is BS, your God is not real...

    and you think calling religion a BS can be categorized as something respectful? hmmmm...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Wala man guroy pinoy nga nakahibalo gi atik sila nya nagpabilin ghapon? i doubt...

    basin ikaw guro naka ingun nga gi atik sila Pero sila mismo nagtuo nga sakto ilang gituhuan mao naa pa sila dha...

    Kanang pagsaka sa Number of New religions nya pagsaka sa mga members sa mga Born Again religion MEANS nga MAJORITY sa mga tawo nag Examine sa ilang pagtuo karun, nga if para nila gi atik sila MAMALHIN na..

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    Create a new thread for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints questions para daghan makapangutana nimu.. Mas maayu if imung personal Answer ang mabasa kay mas maayu if Personal experience ang makita sa tawo... lisod if basa basa ra way interaction..
    thank you sa suggestion. pero best jud if sa mga missionaries mag ask. if ok ra nimo makavisit sila sa inyo..

  8. #78
    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    "Since it rejects or denies the existence of God, atheism is a sin against the virtue of religion. The imputability of this offense can be significantly diminished in virtue of the intentions and the circumstances."

    therefore in the teachings of the Catholic Church, Salvation is not denied to Atheists although Atheism in itself is a direct Sin to God. Salvation in terms of purity of intention, kindness of the heart and soul and sincerity of Atheistic point of view( which means if mao jud ang naabut sa imung konsensya ug pagsabut nga walay Ginoo sa limpyo ug matuod nga pagsusi).
    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    i believe you missed the part where he said "not all catholics are ideal" bears.

    and the church does not teach that those who are not Catholic will go to Hell..
    I'm sure you mean well as a non-clergyman interpreting Church dogmas through the lens of humanism. To quote one historian in a public lecture, "Some people really do not know what orthodoxy was like in those days." I agree with Bertrand Russell when he said that religion is based primarily on fear. I mean, come on. It used to be Ecclesiam nulla salus (outside the church there is no salvation) meant exactly what it said. Nowadays, these masters of doublespeak have reached into their tools of obfuscation and come up with more globally palatable interpretations. That's the job of theology: to make the absurd sound rational.

    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    kanta sa spandau ballet.. LOL
    Tony Hadley is probably an atheist/agnostic, as shown by his response in this interview: Tony Hadley

    When asked about the order of service at his funeral, he said: "I’d like people to dress as if they’re going to a concert, so it won’t be too sombre. I don’t believe in the afterlife, so I don’t want anything too religious, but maybe someone can tell a few anecdotes about my chaotic life. They can play Pretty Vacant by the *** Pistols during the cremation and I’d like people to file out to Monty Python’s Always Look On The Bright Side of Life."

    And then when asked about the crime he would commit knowing he could get away with it, he replied: "I’d break into the vaults underneath the Vatican and root through all the archives."

    Nice one, Tony! The Vatican archives are not as open to the public as some people would like you to believe. Vatileaks, though not related to the Archives, could just be the tip of the iceberg of things many people would like to know, like what really happened or what the Popes were saying during the their bloody history, their ties with the mafia or the Nazis. As one comedian once said "The Vatican tried to hitch their wagon to the number of the beast, but unfortunately Nazism went out of style."

  9. #79
    Quote Originally Posted by psychologic View Post
    ikaw bro, naa kay God.. if naa kinsa imong God?
    Naa bro. In fact i studied from elem to highschool in a sectarian school.

    Mao lang jud ni akong na notice sa religion sa majority. Storya gamay, kanta gamay...taud2 collection dako. Inig taud2 nasad, 2nd collection. Faet.

    Mao ng wa koy religion na. I dont have a particular church/religion.

    "I like our Christ but not our Christians, because our Christians are so NOT like our Christ."

  10. #80
    There's no need to go Fundamental when it comes to each and everyone's religion.

    It's simple, True religion exists within ourselves.
    It's like a common way of paying tribute to a "higher being", thanking for the world we have which is the earth, our human body, or even as simple as the rain. It doesn't matter whether we call them Jesus, Allah or Sun, the fact the we are just happy to be blessed.

    Why "higher being?" because even the scientist knows that as human beings we are not capable of making such works of miracle.

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