US forces 'ready to strike Syria'

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@flanker ako nagpataka ug storyabuta ka dili ka kta unsa nahitabo sa Syria karunBsin kaliwat ka ni Assad ug Hitler brad ikaw mao ni lamoy sa propaganda sa Russia ug Syria mayta tua ka didto arun kana emo nawong pansakan ug chemical weapons or pa buak ka sa emo ulo sa bala ni Assad sa Syria pa suheto2x sad ka dah murag kinsa pweeee..........

Tua-ara affected diay kaayo ka dodong? Relax lang sayo sa buntag init na imong ulo basin ma heart attack ka! Imong gibasa akong post? or youre too scared mo basa nga ang rebels nag use ug chemical weapons diay as confirmed by UN investigator last May.

Ayaw lang pag mogna-mogna ug istorya kai klaro kaau mora rakag parrot! kung unsa gi istorya sa western media mao rasad imong gi putak dre. Again plain basic common sense lang ok? In case kung wala ka ana, pls see a doctor basin matabang pa.

[godwhacker]

@godwhacker wala pa btaw official report sa UN but unofficially g conform na sa UN nga Assad forces are using chemical weapons againts sa rebels ug civilians besides bsan walay confirmation gkan sa UN tataw man kaayo nga ni gamit jud ang Syrian troops ug chemical weapons tungod sa ka desperado ni Assad to hold on to power.......wala pa jud na leksyon ang kalibotan sukad pa sa WW2 panahon ni Hitler nga bsan kung kabalo sila nga ang mga Jews g pang patay na in Millions ni piyong lang ghapon kay lagi internal conflict man mao na g ingon nga History is repeating itself sa una si Hitler karon si Assad kung ang mga tao parehas nmo ug thinking no wonder there are many people in this world who are dying in the hands of despots.................

duna nay mga initial report nga confirmed gigamit ang chemical weapon. who used it? mao ni pangutana nga nagtangag ug dakong ganti. pero depende ni sa biases sa tawo. kung paki western ka, you will believe the spin their media is doing bisan walay confirmation from the UN investigating team who the perpetrators are. those who have open mind will wait for the official report. di man siguro i pinpoint sa UN kung kinsa pero tataw kaayo nga syrian government because they have stockpile is the de facto executor. syria can be punished for this of course under international law. but what if the report says, both sides committed the crime. ang pangutana? kinsa may mo punish sa mga terrorists? syria is easy on the target because it has government. ang mga terrorists gi sponsor ug foreign countries, kinsa may mo punish ining mga naghatag ug chemicals sa mga terorista kung ugaling mamatud-an nga sila mismo ni gamit usab sa maong mga makamatay nga hinagiban?

[æRLO]

Also be reminded that both sides have been accusing each other of using Chemical Weapons for months prior to the Attack on Ghouta--and both sides have testimonies to support their claims. at the same time, it is undeniable that the Syrian goverment has chemical weapons, while the opposition is not proven to be in possession of any.

The scope of the attack just isn't in the capacity of the rebels--It was large-scale and affected 2 opposition-controlled neighborhood 16 miles apart and surrounded by Syrian Forces supported by Hezbollah. It has been reported that the government forces have taken positions overlooking this area and have hit this area many times before from these positions. Also should be noted that the wind that day was blowing towards the east, away from the center of Damascus.

The two projectile-weaponry(330 mm and 140 mm) used to deliver the warheads are Syrian and Russia-made. Both projectiles and their vehicle-mounted launchers have been well-documented to be in use by the government forces since the beginning of the war, but not has never been seen with Opposition forces.

[flanker]

Also be reminded that both sides have been accusing each other of using Chemical Weapons for months prior to the Attack on Ghouta--and both sides have testimonies to support their claims. at the same time, it is undeniable that the Syrian goverment has chemical weapons, while the opposition is not proven to be in possession of any.

It was proven by the UN last May and the Turkish authorities who captured rebels with chemical weapons . You cannot read that in mainstream media but if you're interested, there are lots of sources you can even watch the UN investigator being interviewed last May that it was the rebels who used.

Ok lets go back to Ghouta. The question is who benefits the chemical attack?

-Definitely not Assad, he is not stupid enough to provoke the western powers especially when the UN team just arrived in Damacus.
-The rebels that has been calling for no flyzone/airstrikes knew they cant win without intervention, especially when the tide of the battle is in Assad's favor with the assistance of Hezbollah that captured Al Qusayr and Homs.

Anyway lets just wait for the final UN investigation result.

[æRLO]

It was proven by the UN last May and the Turkish authorities who captured rebels with chemical weapons . You cannot read that in mainstream media but if you're interested, there are lots of sources you can even watch the UN investigator being interviewed last May that it was the rebels who used.

Ok lets go back to Ghouta. The question is who benefits the chemical attack?

-Definitely not Assad, he is not stupid enough to provoke the western powers especially when the UN team just arrived in Damacus.
-The rebels that has been calling for no flyzone/airstrikes knew they cant win without intervention, especially when the tide of the battle is in Assad's favor with the assistance of Hezbollah that captured Al Qusayr and Homs.

Anyway lets just wait for the final UN investigation result.

How could U.N. confirm that report, when even the Turkish authorities has not confirmed those reports--in fact it was denied by the Turkish authorities (btw the original carrier of the story, Zaman News, is a aligned with PM Erdogan's ruling party) . RT jumped on the news even though they have not gotten Turkish confirmation--because it benefited Assad. Even the connection between the 12 men and the al Nusra front was just an allegation. That's why in the end, Russia stopped pursuing that end.

Are you sure Assad isn't stupid enough?

Whether Assad is winning the war or not is subject to debate, but like any regime, they know how to use propaganda. Of course he's going to say they're winning. But how do you say that when you have rebel controlled areas a few miles from where your vital/essential government buildings are. You have Russia, Iran, and Hezbollah backing Assad for the past 9 months, yet the opposition forces still hold key places in the country side. As late as August, the rebels are still able to capture strategic points.

Syria rebels take control of strategic town - Middle East - Al Jazeera English - August, FSA cuts off the last Government supply route into Aleppo by capturing a strategic village.

FSA takes control of Menagh air base near Aleppo - Alarabiya.net English | Front Page - Rebels take airbase near Aleppo


The rebels are still able to hold offensives. For this to be happening in Syria's largest city, I would question the regime's claim that they are winning. To me its looking like a virtual stalemate.

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How could U.N. confirm that report, when even the Turkish authorities has not confirmed those reports--in fact it was denied by the Turkish authorities (btw the original carrier of the story, Zaman News, is a aligned with PM Erdogan's ruling party) . RT jumped on the news even though they have not gotten Turkish confirmation--because it benefited Assad. Even the connection between the 12 men and the al Nusra front was just an allegation. That's why in the end, Russia stopped pursuing that end.

I will do it for you then it happened last May.
UN accuses Syrian rebels of chemical weapons use - Telegraph
UN Inspector Says Syrian Rebels Used Chemical Weapons, Not Assad (May 2013) - YouTube

In Turkey:
LOCAL - Syrian rebel groups sought to buy materials for chemical weapons, prosecutors say

Qusayr and Homs has been a rebel stronghold since the beginning of the war, in case you didnt know that. It was liberated by Syrian Arab Army.

[æRLO]

I will do it for you then it happened last May.
UN accuses Syrian rebels of chemical weapons use - Telegraph
UN Inspector Says Syrian Rebels Used Chemical Weapons, Not Assad (May 2013) - YouTube

In Turkey:
LOCAL - Syrian rebel groups sought to buy materials for chemical weapons, prosecutors say

Qusayr and Homs has been a rebel stronghold since the beginning of the war, in case you didnt know that. It was liberated by Syrian Arab Army.

I thought you said it was proven, what I got was that del Ponte had an assertion that Syrian rebels used chemical attacks based on testimonies--and that the team has to...

deepen our investigation, verify and confirm (the findings) through new witness testimony

here's the update on del Ponte's probe...

U.N. rights team aims to probe chemical weapons in Syria - del Ponte - swissinfo.ch

The team's most recent report in June cited "reasonable grounds" to believe that limited amounts of chemical weapons had been used and said that most testimony related to their alleged use by state forces.

apparently her team is drawing up a long list of alleged war criminals from the Syrian government--after interviews with senior defectors of the Syrian military.

naa pay pakapin, that maybe Putin and Obama should take into account.

"One should pay attention to the states that supply arms either for the government or the rebels. Those who provide arms knowing that they are used to commit war crimes or crimes against humanity may - may - also bear a responsibility."

Also with regards to the Syrian rebels allegedly seeking to acquire sarin components, that is an indictment. There are reports that there are rebel groups who sought to acquire ingredients to make Sarin, whether they are successful or not, we don't know--but with the scope of the August 21 attacks, the amount they could have produced would not be enough--and more importantly they do not have the means to deliver the nerve agent. What we do know is that Assad does have CW and according to the nonpartisan group, Nuclear Threat Initiative, Syria has the capacity to fabricate Sarin nerve gas AND they certainly have the means to deliver their warheads.

Syrian president Bashar al-Assad's sarin gas claim implausible - Fact Check - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

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[engg123]

gubat nasad ni d-ay?

[silentnuker]

naay gubat dinhi..."war of words"....based on mainstream media kun0...hahaha.

this is the effect of kn0wing whats on the news only...and n0t the actual thing
that is happening.

[masakiton]

naa time nga mag lisod ta ug tuo sa western media kai kasagaran nilang news puros jud negative sa mga dili nila gusto ug positive sa ni oppose sa dili nila gusto.
naa nai mga paghitabo sauna nga ang western, european ug saudi mo support sa mga rebelde or kontra sa dili nila ganahan
naa pud time nga pataka lang sila ug pamasangil.. pasanginlan pirmi ang dili nila gusto nga government