'We tried to contact each other' - captains from both ships that collided.

[7DMM]

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One more and i'll pull the plug! All of you had been warned!

[Scott Bernard]

Bisan ako, wala koy alamag anang marine, pero ang ako lang unta concern, diskarte ba... Bisan unsaon pa nimo pag tuyok2x sa timon dinha, kung patay ang makina dili najud modagan ang barko (except sa remaining inertia). Unta gepatay nalang sa duha ka barko ang ilang mga respective main engine. Pwede ra pod na ma reverse (astern) kung naapay sakto nga panahon... para ma prevent ang pag bangga.

[sizzlingROBOT]

Mao jud, Bro. Out of topic na kaau ang mga tawo diri. Daghan kaau pakita na sweto sila.

According to the news this evening, both captains might be charged of negligence for the incident.

spectator mode on...kay dili akong field.

can we get back to the topic?

[7DMM]

Naa pa gani laing mo sakay o mo sugnod ban na deretso. I've been giving out minor infractions just to keep everyone at bay. Gave out warnings already. I'll be on general quarters until all of you will settle down!

[prukutung]

subscribing and hoping for a continuous discussion sa matter..

seriously, i like the topic, wala lay hambugay... reading rako kai dili ta suheto..

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this is the time when i want the death penalty back. Their negligence has cost hundreds of people their lives, these two captains should also pay with their lives ...

i dun think nindut ang death penalty for negligence.. reserve em for rapist and murderers, but i dun think both captains wished for a tradegy.. unless only if there's sabotage..

[sizzlingROBOT]

They'll probably end up in jail for it. Their licenses could be revoked and served time in jail.

I think "negligence resulting to homicide" ang i.charge if I am not mistaken. Wala pa man pud final result ang investigation.

mao ba. then what will be the punishment WHEN they are proven guilty ?? this is the time when i want the death penalty back. Their negligence has cost hundreds of people their lives, these two captains should also pay with their lives ...

[zach]

Naay update sa issue wuh...

Cebu Daily News | Cebu's Only Independent Newspaper

Captains, crew under custody pending inquiry

Lawyers say victims can sue ship owner | Cebu Daily News: Latest News & Photos from Cebu, Philippines & beyond

Lawyers say victims can sue ship owner


(ang article ni mention aobut VTMS and i know nag lalis moh dri about VTMS. whatever it is that you wanted to say just keep to yourself or say it in a nice manner or else take the risk of getting banned here in istorya.net. our Site Keeper @7DMM is not happy at all.) PEACE!

[H.Wolowitz]

the investigation could take months.. how i wish someone from the government will take a stand to rectify this issue by amending the shipping guidelines and policies

[freeflyer04]

murag disappointed kos ako nabasa dinhi. nindot unta ni nga himuon nga panagbaylo-ay sa hunahuna in a civilized way pero na surambaw na sad. na close ang pikas thread tungod ani nila and this thread is in a the brink of being closed again. take note.. no one has the monopoly of knowledge in this world.. ang tanan anaay katungod nga mo express as long as one isnt stepping on someones toes. ang kanang inyong pagsinuphanay nga murag si knsa namo ka ngilngig befalls ur profession.. technically u may be superb.. but u seem to have no knowledge of PROFESSIONAL ETHICS at all.. its a pity that our mourning and grief of this unfortunate incident has given way to the EGO TRIPPING of some.. and u dont deserve any iotta of respect..

[vipvip68]

Ive been reading the posts here and so far mao ni akong ma ingon..

1. If Sulpicio was on the right/outbound "lane" then 2go vessel is liable for the incident.
2. If Sulpicio was on the wrong/inbound "lane" 2go vessel having failed to contact sulpicio should have stuck to the rules and turned right. Since the captain claims that he ran the risk of running aground, then the only option is to reduce speed and stay the course.
In this scenario, fault sa sulpicio for intruding into the lane sa 2go but the 2go captain should never have turned left under any circumstances.
3. It may be counter intuitive to stay on course with an approaching vessel heading towards you but turning left under any circumstance is far more dangerous.


This incident reminds me of that episode sa aircrash investigation where a passenger plane and a cargo plane collided. They had this TCAS system which was designed to avoid mid air collision by instructing one plane to go above and the other to go below. The problem was that one plane followed the TCAS system and pulled up, the other plane followed the air traffic controller to pull up also despite the TCAS telling them to go below the other plane. They ended up colliding.

Dapat when communication breaks down, you stick to the basic rules. Maybe ni panic na ang 2go captain kay wala siyay option to turn right and he wasnt expecting the sulpicio to change course.

So the liability for this all boils down to whether sulpicio was in the correct lane. Regardless, partial blame to 2go's captain for turning left instead of slowing down and staying course.


To give an analogy ani, imagine a bus travelling northbound on a 2-lane highway. Suddenly he spots a truck heading southbound nga naa sa iyang lane. The bus doesnt have the option to turn right...but is turning left really the best course of action for the bus or would it be better to slow down? Here is where the basic rules of the road apply. Without the need to communicate, each driver knows what the other should do.


If 2go captain was in the correct lane, why did he feel the need to change course instead of just slowing down