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  1. #591

    Quote Originally Posted by FRANCISCO MATA View Post
    ky daghan man rebelde... mao c marcos respetado na sa president sa US sauna because of his anti-communism campaign... president reagan dont want to see another southeast asian country to be communist... karon bisan asa na mga communist.. naa pa c misuari nagdeclare og independece to separate from the phil. govt.. gubot napud ni ba...
    Lahi pod na nga issue ang communism og ang pangurakot ni marcos. si marcos maro lang kay na gamit niya ang issues with communism to make him stay on power. kinsa may presidente nga gusto og communista? si abnoy?

  2. #592
    A lot of debt too + 20 years of martial law.

  3. #593
    The early years of FM's rule was great. I think all things began to deteriorate the moment he planned to put the entire country under agrarian reform, and his ambitious mission to retake Sabah. He did not see that those around him were just waiting for the right time and took advantage of the situation.

    Ramos had his pros like you mentioned but he also privatized some government assets. Erap definitely was for the masses since his win was because of votes from the provinces. His all-out war against the Moro rebels really bolstered his image as a bad-ass. However, this was cut short since President Clinton and Cardinal Sin(making a fool out of himself again) persuaded him to desist. He did not and then the demolition job against him was launched and he was ousted. He is by the way the only president after Marcos who won an election from the results of the votes, fair-and-square.

    GMA, she was able to help our country pay our debts hence the reason we are now enjoying credit ratings upgrades. She was also responsible for paving the way to fulfill some MDG(Millenium Development Goals) but the efforts she put up was wasted by this admin. Another thing to attribute to her was the construction of additional infrastructures like roads and bridges. One example is that viaduct that goes from Mandaue near the new bridge and exits near the church at Catarman, Lilo-an, SCTEX was also her project.

    For this admin? Nothing, but credit grabbing for all things GMA did sans the negative ones. Even the CCT project was initially by GMA, but it was discontinued because it was not sustainable and effective. This admin just picked it up and look where it is now.

    Quote Originally Posted by newbie.86 View Post
    im telling the situation as it was, bro. honestly the people were not concerned of investigating anymore because the authorities are helpless. anyway, they could tell if buhat sa military or NPA ang mga patay kay naa bya na cla crime signatures. hilom na lang ang mga taw kay hostage man cla between 2 camps.

    To blame Cory's admin alone -- that would be unfair. I was not born yet at that time but MOST of the killings occured before Cory. NPA rebels were busy purging their ranks of government spies, the military were busy executing NPAs and their sympathizers.

    Was Marcos' term better for us? NO. the insurgency problem started and NPA was stronger.
    Was Cory's term any better? NO. the insurgency problem was weaker but continued until 1995.

    Marcos' project : ARTESIAN WELL ug CR duol sa barangay hall.
    Cory's project: PRIMARY SCHOOL for Grade 1 and 2.


    I can say that it was Ramos who was able to instill peace in the rural areas. but that's another story.
    In terms of project, it was Erap who had the most -- concrete roads, water system, electrification in just 4 years as president.
    Worst was GMA -- even the farmers had none to eat because the price of rice went up from 24 to about 60 pesos at one point.

    Common people like us would go only for the tangible benefits. di na ta maghisgot ug mga GDP, inflation, %literacy kay di karelate ang mga ordinaryong taw ana.

  4. #594
    Quote Originally Posted by erwin_rommel View Post
    Lahi pod na nga issue ang communism og ang pangurakot ni marcos. si marcos maro lang kay na gamit niya ang issues with communism to make him stay on power. kinsa may presidente nga gusto og communista? si abnoy?
    Walay gusto pero hangtod ron nidaghan ang rebelde pati akong first cousin nahimong NPA (deceased) akong first-cousin nga usa 2nd lt. (deceased) after 2 years in service (akong mama nagtabang mkaskwela sa PNPA)... NPA ray nakapatay intawon... sa sunod ani communist na ni atong country... kong walay isog nga presidente like marcos....

    kong mkasulti ka c marcos gyud ang nagstart sa korrupsyon sa pilipinas... how about those Spaniards who ruled our country for 333 years... Wala bay corruption ato nga time? Dili ba kaha sa ilaha nato na.kuha ang trait nga mangurakot?

  5. #595
    Dili boss. Taga cebu ra ko. Pero daghan nako na dunggan bahin sa kanang pinatyanay sa sparrow unit ug sa mga taga PC. Kaila man sa akong papa c Col. Palcuto, usa sa mga gahi/kahadlokan sa mga komunista sa una. Daghan na xa na pa tumba na mga sparrow unit.

    "RETIRED police colonel Rico Palcuto yesterday announced that he is running for Cebu City vice mayor so he can help maintain peace and order."

    VM bet to keep

    Awa gud, gi kontrahan gani sa mga komunista na grupo na kabataan partylist:

    "Kinondena ni Kabataan Party-list Rep. Raymond Palatino ang pananakit diumano ni Police Supt. Ariel Palcuto, anak ng kandidato sa pagka-bise-alkalde ng Cebu City na si Rico Palcuto, sa ikaapat na nominado ng Kabataan na si Renil Oliva at kasamahan niya."

    Nominado ng Kabataan Party-list, hinaras ng pulis na tagasuporta ng ANAD | Pinoy Weekly

    Quote Originally Posted by mang kulas View Post
    taga negros ka boss noh? mao cguro boss kay daghan mag NPA dha sa SAGAY db? kanang katubhan, nag inilogay sa katubhan

  6. #596
    right. Marcos' achievement et al. There is no doubt he had his achievements; the question, however, is to what or whose expense?

  7. #597
    Quote Originally Posted by M.A.D. View Post
    Dili boss. Taga cebu ra ko. Pero daghan nako na dunggan bahin sa kanang pinatyanay sa sparrow unit ug sa mga taga PC. Kaila man sa akong papa c Col. Palcuto, usa sa mga gahi/kahadlokan sa mga komunista sa una. Daghan na xa na pa tumba na mga sparrow unit.

    "RETIRED police colonel Rico Palcuto yesterday announced that he is running for Cebu City vice mayor so he can help maintain peace and order."

    VM bet to keep

    Awa gud, gi kontrahan gani sa mga komunista na grupo na kabataan partylist:

    "Kinondena ni Kabataan Party-list Rep. Raymond Palatino ang pananakit diumano ni Police Supt. Ariel Palcuto, anak ng kandidato sa pagka-bise-alkalde ng Cebu City na si Rico Palcuto, sa ikaapat na nominado ng Kabataan na si Renil Oliva at kasamahan niya."

    Nominado ng Kabataan Party-list, hinaras ng pulis na tagasuporta ng ANAD | Pinoy Weekly
    sorry bro aq pasabot c NEWBIE86 ang taga negros slashers... hehehehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by erwin_rommel View Post
    naay tuod growth pero ang pangutana ma sustain ba ang growth? na a koy 2 officemates nga indonesian and they say its not good in indonesia, its not safe to be in jakarta.
    it is safer in INDONESIA than PHIL... they can protect themselves from China,,, naa gud silay kaugalingong SUBMARINE... ayg pataka ana imu friend kay dia ko sa TANJUNG PRIOK INDONESIA karon,

  8. #598
    Aw hahaha cge2x. Padayon dha. Maayo unta naa lain account c Apollo oi. Nalingaw q as iyang mga posts gud. Mingaw kaayo kung wla xa dri

    Quote Originally Posted by mang kulas View Post
    sorry bro aq pasabot c NEWBIE86 ang taga negros slashers... hehehehe

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    it is safer in INDONESIA than PHIL... they can protect themselves from China,,, naa gud silay kaugalingong SUBMARINE... ayg pataka ana imu friend kay dia ko sa TANJUNG PRIOK INDONESIA karon,

  9. #599
    Quote Originally Posted by M.A.D. View Post
    Aw hahaha cge2x. Padayon dha. Maayo unta naa lain account c Apollo oi. Nalingaw q as iyang mga posts gud. Mingaw kaayo kung wla xa dri
    lingaw jud bay,,, kung ka back read paka. sukad pag sugod pas thread grabe xa juy nanlabaw, mao ningpahawa gani q kadyot sa thread kay wala kaayu koy kakampi,,, kasagaran man LIKE ra ka mahadlok sila APOLLO

  10. #600
    Quote Originally Posted by mang kulas View Post
    sorry bro aq pasabot c NEWBIE86 ang taga negros slashers... hehehehe
    imo unta to gi klaro daan boss,... dili pud tawn ko taga negros hehehe.
    bisag gagmay, naa mi kaugalingong yuta nga gi atiman sa akong amahan. wala mi nangilog og yuta.lol

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