All about Closed-loop Liquid Coolers

[lloyd_joy]

^pila SP sa imo gi-test nga ordinary fan?

wala ma'y naka disclosed na SP ang PC Cooler F-128 bro... dili diay sya CM... typo error man ko dah...

here's the details:

> PC Cooler F-128 (ordinary chassis fan):
size: 120 mm diameter
RPM: 900 to 1600 +/- 15%... (765 min to 1,840 max rpm w/ tolerance)... during the study, ang RPM ani nya kay 1,650 lang as shown on the monitoring software (Asrock F-Stream Tuner Utility). gi parehasan nya ang stock PMW fan sa Corsair H50... the same sila'g gigamit na mobo power header. akoa lang gigamitan ug splitter cable (PC Cooler PWM cable).
dBA: 12-20
CFM (airflow): 35 to 76... Note: better airflow than the SP120 at max rpm. pero, wala nya ni ma attain kay the fan is only revolving at 1,650 rpm max.
Amps: 0.25A
Volts: 12V
SP: N/A



> Corsair SP120 (High Performance Edition):
size: 120 mm diameter
RPM: 2,350 rpm
dBA: 35
CFM (airflow): 62.74
Amps: 0.25A
Volts: 12V
SP: 3.1 mm H20

[lloyd_joy]

Sir lloyd napako question sir....unsaon paglimpyo ang radiator sa cooler...di matang-tang ang abog maski brushan...pwide ba ni hugsan ug tubig sir...dile ba ni madaut? or basin tayaun nuh? hehehe
(d guro pwedi ky kay mabasa ang motor sa pump sulod.

blower ra bro... tang2x na tanan abog... akoang gamit diri kay ang floor pump sa akoang bikes... or vaccum...

[werty]

and u believe PCCoolers specifications than Corsairs?

[lloyd_joy]

no, its not....

check the facts... but it doesn't carry throught hinoon...

akoang lains fan diri... Deep Cool FAN120 (120 mm)... rpm (1300 +/1 10% rpm); airflow (44.71 CFM max)... my Cooler Master (120mm)... rpm (1000 +/- 10% rpm); ariflow (50.6 CFM max)... in reality, kay hinay man ug RPM ang CM, inig sikit nimo sa imohang aping (mas sensitive man ni) sa exhaust, hinay sya compared sa Deep Cool... even ang rated airflow sa Deep Cool kay lesser... is this a fact or not?

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and u believe PCCoolers specifications than Corsairs?

both are rated by their own testing... dili maka sulod sa 1st world countries ang products na namakak ug data. unsaon man ni nimo ug explain? dha man gud sa atoa, branded ra kaayo ta bro... another fact ni... atoang nahibaw-an in general, kana ra ang known brands... now, just an example, for PSU, how many of the PC community dha sa Pinas knows about Super Flower?... their reliability and quality? its just an handful right?

[Sempron Guy]

check the facts... but it doesn't carry throught hinoon...

akoang lains fan diri... Deep Cool FAN120 (120 mm)... rpm (1300 +/1 10% rpm); airflow (44.71 CFM max)... my Cooler Master (120mm)... rpm (1000 +/- 10% rpm); ariflow (50.6 CFM max)... in reality, kay hinay man ug RPM ang CM, inig sikit nimo sa imohang aping (mas sensitive man ni) sa exhaust, hinay sya compared sa Deep Cool... even ang rated airflow sa Deep Cool kay lesser... is this a fact or not?

deepcool xfan120 = 1.3k rpm, 44.71cfm
cm 120mm = 1k rpm, 50.6cfm

so dili directly proportional ang rpm sa fan to it's airflow? naay ubang fan gamay rpm pero dako ug cfm and vice versa

so dili ta ka ingon nga marketing lang given imo testing dili completo, though imo statement nga marketing partly true, naa puy ikatabang ang taas nga static pressure labi na baga na kaayo ang rad gamit. Try pud nako experiment diri bahin ato imo ingon nga way dili worth it mag push and pull. Naa koy data ana sauna pero wa nako nalista.

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Experience tells me unknown brands =/ sucky brands. I happen to know PcCooler, ni sikat na sila diri sa Pinas around 2008 pagsulod sa Deepcool. They got good coolers pud. Corsair has its own ways so as Pccooler. Lahi2 sila implementation so di ta makadirectly compare.

[lloyd_joy]

^ general statement ra na akaong gi sulti na direct proportional but ma depende na gyud sa model... naa ko'g ipakita ninyo on my current cooling systems ha for comparison... kadiyot sa kaayo. nag istorya pa mi ni kumander... hydro and air comparison lang ni sya... "performance to price" ba... all CPUs are running at stock speed...

dia ra bros oh... all three rigs are running FAH (Folding @ Home) on both GPU ang CPU (and are running @ full load) since Wednesday of last week and its non stop... current temp sa akoang room ron kay 27 Deg... run the aircon for 2 hrs and set it at 16 Deg pero, 27 Deg pa gihapon ang temp... ganiha diri sa Shanghai kay naka 44 Deg C ang gawas... samot na sa sulod balay na wala'y tao or dili mag andar ang aircon... mura ta'g gi daoban sa pogon... hehehehe... anyway, here's the screen capture... akoa lang ipakita ang cooling performance ani nila ha... its not related to the inquiry of TS except sa gaming rig... about lang ni's PC Cooler Cooling system... maayo unta barato lang ang mga 3rd party cooler dha, but, sakit2x man gyud pud... gamay ra man choices gud... tsk tsk tsk... the same sa fans, limited choices ra ta...


> Entertainment rig... cooling system: PC Cooler Q100M (100 mm fan @ 1,200 to 2,000 rpm)... bought for 245 php equivalent... CPU: Celeron G530...

Note: Karon lang ko naka bantay wala gi detect sa HW monitor ang fan RPM sa Q100M...


> Gaming rig... cooling system: Corsair H50 w/ SP120 fans on "push-pull" config... bought for 3.2K php and 1.386 php... total shelled out was 4,586 php... CPU: i3-2120...



> Mini-Itx rig... cooling system: PC Cooler S86 mini (80 mm @ 2,200 rpm... position @ the center)... added a pull fan... PC Cooler F-85 (80mm @ 2,200 rpm)... bought for 413 php and 112 php... total shelled out was 525 php... CPU: Pentium G840... naa extra na fan (PC Cooler F-85) for Push config unta kaso, wala ma taod kay ma igo naman sa GPU sya... sayang...

[LadYKilleR8520]

Best case scenario for radiators generally is the higher the CFM and the SP ratings of the Fans, the better, the higher the fastest RPM the better but noisier.. USE fans for Static Pressure not the ones for AirFlow.. if you can get fans with directed cooling then much better.. kana lang..

[Sempron Guy]

^ general statement ra na akaong gi sulti na direct proportional but ma depende na gyud sa model... naa ko'g ipakita ninyo on my current cooling systems ha for comparison... kadiyot sa kaayo. nag istorya pa mi ni kumander... hydro and air comparison lang ni sya... "performance to price" ba... all CPUs are running at stock speed...

dia ra bros oh... all three rigs are running FAH (Folding @ Home) on both GPU ang CPU (and are running @ full load) since Wednesday of last week and its non stop... current temp sa akoang room ron kay 27 Deg... run the aircon for 2 hrs and set it at 16 Deg pero, 27 Deg pa gihapon ang temp... ganiha diri sa Shanghai kay naka 44 Deg C ang gawas... samot na sa sulod balay na wala'y tao or dili mag andar ang aircon... mura ta'g gi daoban sa pogon... hehehehe... anyway, here's the screen capture... akoa lang ipakita ang cooling performance ani nila ha... its not related to the inquiry of TS except sa gaming rig... about lang ni's PC Cooler Cooling system... maayo unta barato lang ang mga 3rd party cooler dha, but, sakit2x man gyud pud... gamay ra man choices gud... tsk tsk tsk... the same sa fans, limited choices ra ta...


> Entertainment rig... cooling system: PC Cooler Q100M (100 mm fan @ 1,200 to 2,000 rpm)... bought for 245 php equivalent... CPU: Celeron G530...

Note: Karon lang ko naka bantay wala gi detect sa HW monitor ang fan RPM sa Q100M...


> Gaming rig... cooling system: Corsair H50 w/ SP120 fans on "push-pull" config... bought for 3.2K php and 1.386 php... total shelled out was 4,586 php... CPU: i3-2120...



> Mini-Itx rig... cooling system: PC Cooler S86 mini (80 mm @ 2,200 rpm... position @ the center)... added a pull fan... PC Cooler F-85 (80mm @ 2,200 rpm)... bought for 413 php and 112 php... total shelled out was 525 php... CPU: Pentium G840... naa extra na fan (PC Cooler F-85) for Push config unta kaso, wala ma taod kay ma igo naman sa GPU sya... sayang...

I'm assuming imo point is nalupig pa sa pccooler q100m ang corsair h50 hence the comparison?

[square.circle]

Best case scenario for radiators generally is the higher the CFM and the SP ratings of the Fans, the better, the higher the fastest RPM the better but noisier.. USE fans for Static Pressure not the ones for AirFlow.. if you can get fans with directed cooling then much better.. kana lang..

Bro can you give us some example of these fans (any brand; high-end or low-end) nga naa sa atong market today...so we can have clear understanding of what you mean.

[werty]

Bro can you give us some example of these fans (any brand; high-end or low-end) nga naa sa atong market today...so we can have clear understanding of what you mean.

check Corsairs SP and AP fan models.