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  1. #21

    kinsa man political figure dri cebu nga manigarilyo

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    e ban tanan oy..... para walay bisyo ang tawo sa pilipinas

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    Quote Originally Posted by masakiton View Post
    ayaw i ban... triple or quadrouple ang tax rate sa cigarettes ug e-cigarettes
    Mas maayo ni kanang moabot na unta tag 10 ang 1 ka stick

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    ang giavoid ani kay kana mang mga new potential smokers. if wala pa sila kahibaw about anang e-cigarettes kay di jud na sila musuway sigarilyo kay daghan bad effects. pero.. pagkadungog nila nga naay e-cigarettes nga "dili" kuno bad sa imo health (which I doubt) nisuway na nuon ang mga non-smokers so pagsuway nila of course maganahan sila then maybe ma-"addict" pa nuon aning sigarilyo2x labi na if pirmihon.

    now after makatry na sila sa e-cigar, dako na nuon possibility na musuway sila sa real cigar kay medyo "addict" na man sila.

    so mao na iyang point. dili from smokers to e-cigar ang iya tumong kundi from non-smokers to e-cigar then potentially to real cigars

    /two cents

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    4 ingredients ra ang naa sa e juice. VG, PG, Nicotine, ug flavoring. All FDA approved. Dghan na mga cases around the world na ni stop ug smoking analag tungod sa e cigarette.

    Ang nicotine ang maka addict. So kadtong mga non smoker na ni try then ni switch. It's either wala sila hibalo na naay zero nicotine na baligya or nahan jud sila mo smoke for whatever reason ni una sila ug gamit sa ecig.

    Grabe ka mahal ang e cigarette pra himong reason na basin mg smoke ang mga bata. Mas cheaper ug easy access ang analog.

    I rather smoke ecig Kay sa analog. Daku kaau ang improvement na wlay tar, carbon monoxide ug uban pang harmful ingredients.

    1 week + nako ng gamit ug ecig 10mg nicotine from 1 pack/day na Marlboro reds. Walay withdrawal ug cravings (ka try nko ug cold turkey, patches ug gum. Diri rako naka stop ug analog) Karon Kay humot na kaau ko, Dili nako dali ma wagtangan ug hangin, walay na kaau akng smokers cough.

    So idk ngano nahan sila I ban na maka tabang ni cya sa smokers na nahan mo stop pro mg lisud.

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    lisud mn na iban ang sigarilyo, mas maayo pamahalan ky grabe ra man ka-barato sa sigarilyo sa ato oi. dri sa canada ky average mn ug 10-13 canadian dollars per 25-pack nga sigarilyo..

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    This is really stupid. They are going to ban the lesser evil among the two? Why not ban cigarettes since it is the one that has the most health hazards. Besides , I don't think that e-cigars are enticing the young ones to smoke the real ones since I have seen a lot of youngsters smoking the real ones because they can't afford e-cigars.

  8. #28
    This is bullshit, before these PMA claim that ecigs are harmful they should look into the scientific background of the device. I work for a manufacturing company and reseller of a world renowned ecig brand. Sus, purya gaba! Di gyud ni sakto ilang gipang claim. Ang mga ignorante ra ang magpa taka ug claim nga its harmful. The R&D of ecig is far more intense and the concoction of eliquids are not harmful. The ingredients found in eliquids are found inside grocery stores!

    So for those saying that they are bad, let me post this information for everyone to be educated about ecigs and eliquids.


    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    WHAT IS AN E-CIGARETTE?

    An electronic cigarette, otherwise known as an e-cigarette, e-cig, smokeless cigarette or personal vaporizer, is a battery-operated device that emulates smoking. When you draw on the device (as you would a cigarette), an atomizer vaporizes the nicotine or non-nicotine liquid solution or ‘e-liquid’, and converts it into smoke-like vapor that a user or ‘vaper’ inhales. The act of using an electronic cigarette is often referred to as ‘vaping’.

    NO TOBACCO, NO TAR, NO TOXINS ASSOCIATED WITH TOBACCO SMOKING
    Electronic cigarettes do not contain tobacco. That means you can still get your dose of nicotine without having to ingest the 4000+ chemicals, including over 40 known carcinogens, which are produced by the burning of tobacco. You also experience the same oral fixation and hand-to-mouth action of smoking that you’re used to.

    NO SMOKE SMELL
    Electronic cigarettes do not emit that irritating smoke smell that sticks on your hair, clothes, walls and furniture. You may smell the sweet aroma of strawberry or vanilla e-liquids, but the scent won’t linger, although you might wish they did!

    NO ASH
    Since there is no combustion or flame, there is no ash and no cigarette butts to deal with. Your household will thank you for it!

    NO SECONDHAND SMOKE
    The smoke-like mist being emitted from an electronic cigarette is just water-based vapor that dissipates within seconds.

    CONTROL YOUR NICOTINE INTAKE WITH VARIOUS NICOTINE STRENGTHS
    E-liquids come in various nicotine strengths, from zero to high. This gives you more control over your nicotine intake. You can, for instance, go for a nicotine level that you were used to when you smoked regular cigarettes and then gradually decrease your nicotine level if you so wish.

    FREEDOM TO SMOKE OR ‘VAPE’ ALMOST ANYTIME, ANYWHERE!
    You can vape almost anywhere since there is no secondhand smoke produced. This may include restaurants, bars, hotels, and offices. No need to go outside your office and stand in the blistering cold or the sweltering heat of the sun for a smoking break.

    SAVE MORE MONEY WITH CARTRIDGES AND REFILLS
    Although the initial investment of an e-cigarette starter kit may seem a little pricey at first glance, you will be saving a whole lot of money in the long run. You only have to buy e-liquids and atomizers to keep on going. Being able to refill the cartridges with e-liquids will help you garner significant savings. Usually, the cost of electronic cigarettes is up to 80% less than tobacco cigarettes.

    MORE ENVIRONMENT-FRIENDLY
    Discarded cigarettes are often the culprit of accidental fires that endanger lives, destroy properties, and pollute the environment. The electronic cigarette eliminates these risks and is kinder to the environment.

    MORE SOCIALLY ACCEPTABLE
    Nowadays, more and more people are growing health-conscious. Smoking bans are proliferating and smokers are forced to step out of a building and stand in an isolated area to get a smoke. There are also many instances when friends or people around a smoker complain about secondhand smoke and would appreciate it if one would not light up. With electronic cigarettes, you can enjoy the company of others without having to worry about offending them with secondhand smoke.

    WON’T STAIN YOUR TEETH
    Electronic cigarettes won’t turn your teeth yellow and leave you with that nasty smoker’s breath.

    WIDE VARIETY OF E-LIQUID FLAVORS AVAILABLE
    One of the greatest joys of vaping is the vast assortment of e-liquids you can try. There are numerous e-liquid flavors available - from tobacco variants that mimic popular cigarette brands to strawberry, cherry, mint, vanilla, cappuccino and many other fascinating flavors.

    DIFFERENT E-CIGARETTE STYLES YOU CAN CHOOSE FROM!
    Electronic cigarettes come in a variety of styles and colors. There are e-cigarettes that are designed to look like a cigarette in size, shape and color. Some models have a red or orange LED light at the tip that glows every time you take a puff. There are also other e-cig models that look like pipes, ballpoint pens or cell phones. Just choose a style that suits your needs and personality!


    ELECTRONIC CIGARETTE FAQS

    An electronic cigarette generally consists of three main components: a cartridge/mouthpiece, atomizer (heating element), and battery. The cartridge acts as an e-liquid reservoir and also serves as a mouthpiece on one end. When a user inhales through the mouthpiece, an air flow sensor activates the atomizer which heats up the e-liquid inside the cartridge and converts it into smoke-like vapor that a user inhales.



    Electronic cigarettes can either come with an automatic or manual battery. For a e-cigarette with an automatic battery you simply inhale through the device to start smoking or ‘vaping’. On the other hand, a manual battery features a button that you press while inhaling. The button is a good feature to have since it lets you have better control on your draw time, allowing you to take longer drags. You can, for instance, press the button a few seconds longer before inhaling to pre-heat the e-liquid and produce warmer vapor and a stronger throat hit. At first, the button may seem awkward to beginners – but it only takes 5 minutes to get the hang of.



    E-liquids are available in differing nicotine concentrations, ranging from zero nicotine to high. Nicotine-containing e-liquids consist of liquid pharmacy grade nicotine, water, natural and artificial flavorings, and propylene glycol (PG) or vegetable glycerin (VG). Both PG and VG are common food additives and “are generally recognized as safe” for use by the FDA.

    ARE ELECTRONIC CIGARETTES SAFE?

    Many experts think that electronic cigarettes are a healthier and safer alternative to tobacco cigarettes. However, since e-cigarettes are fairly new in the market, it will require many years of scientific study to further support these claims. Note that electronic cigarettes deliver some nicotine contents, which are considered addictive, but, unlike tobacco cigarettes, e-cigarettes have various nicotine levels, which enable you to systematically wean off your nicotine cravings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by high_heels View Post
    This is bullshit, before these PMA claim that ecigs are harmful they should look into the scientific background of the device. I work for a manufacturing company and reseller of a world renowned ecig brand. Sus, purya gaba! Di gyud ni sakto ilang gipang claim. Ang mga ignorante ra ang magpa taka ug claim nga its harmful. The R&D of ecig is far more intense and the concoction of eliquids are not harmful. The ingredients found in eliquids are found inside grocery stores!

    So for those saying that they are bad, let me post this information for everyone to be educated about ecigs and eliquids.


    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    WHAT IS AN E-CIGARETTE?

    An electronic cigarette, otherwise known as an e-cigarette, e-cig, smokeless cigarette or personal vaporizer, is a battery-operated device that emulates smoking. When you draw on the device (as you would a cigarette), an atomizer vaporizes the nicotine or non-nicotine liquid solution or ‘e-liquid’, and converts it into smoke-like vapor that a user or ‘vaper’ inhales. The act of using an electronic cigarette is often referred to as ‘vaping’.

    NO TOBACCO, NO TAR, NO TOXINS ASSOCIATED WITH TOBACCO SMOKING
    Electronic cigarettes do not contain tobacco. That means you can still get your dose of nicotine without having to ingest the 4000+ chemicals, including over 40 known carcinogens, which are produced by the burning of tobacco. You also experience the same oral fixation and hand-to-mouth action of smoking that you’re used to.

    NO SMOKE SMELL
    Electronic cigarettes do not emit that irritating smoke smell that sticks on your hair, clothes, walls and furniture. You may smell the sweet aroma of strawberry or vanilla e-liquids, but the scent won’t linger, although you might wish they did!

    NO ASH
    Since there is no combustion or flame, there is no ash and no cigarette butts to deal with. Your household will thank you for it!

    NO SECONDHAND SMOKE
    The smoke-like mist being emitted from an electronic cigarette is just water-based vapor that dissipates within seconds.

    CONTROL YOUR NICOTINE INTAKE WITH VARIOUS NICOTINE STRENGTHS
    E-liquids come in various nicotine strengths, from zero to high. This gives you more control over your nicotine intake. You can, for instance, go for a nicotine level that you were used to when you smoked regular cigarettes and then gradually decrease your nicotine level if you so wish.

    FREEDOM TO SMOKE OR ‘VAPE’ ALMOST ANYTIME, ANYWHERE!
    You can vape almost anywhere since there is no secondhand smoke produced. This may include restaurants, bars, hotels, and offices. No need to go outside your office and stand in the blistering cold or the sweltering heat of the sun for a smoking break.

    SAVE MORE MONEY WITH CARTRIDGES AND REFILLS
    Although the initial investment of an e-cigarette starter kit may seem a little pricey at first glance, you will be saving a whole lot of money in the long run. You only have to buy e-liquids and atomizers to keep on going. Being able to refill the cartridges with e-liquids will help you garner significant savings. Usually, the cost of electronic cigarettes is up to 80% less than tobacco cigarettes.

    MORE ENVIRONMENT-FRIENDLY
    Discarded cigarettes are often the culprit of accidental fires that endanger lives, destroy properties, and pollute the environment. The electronic cigarette eliminates these risks and is kinder to the environment.

    MORE SOCIALLY ACCEPTABLE
    Nowadays, more and more people are growing health-conscious. Smoking bans are proliferating and smokers are forced to step out of a building and stand in an isolated area to get a smoke. There are also many instances when friends or people around a smoker complain about secondhand smoke and would appreciate it if one would not light up. With electronic cigarettes, you can enjoy the company of others without having to worry about offending them with secondhand smoke.

    WON’T STAIN YOUR TEETH
    Electronic cigarettes won’t turn your teeth yellow and leave you with that nasty smoker’s breath.

    WIDE VARIETY OF E-LIQUID FLAVORS AVAILABLE
    One of the greatest joys of vaping is the vast assortment of e-liquids you can try. There are numerous e-liquid flavors available - from tobacco variants that mimic popular cigarette brands to strawberry, cherry, mint, vanilla, cappuccino and many other fascinating flavors.

    DIFFERENT E-CIGARETTE STYLES YOU CAN CHOOSE FROM!
    Electronic cigarettes come in a variety of styles and colors. There are e-cigarettes that are designed to look like a cigarette in size, shape and color. Some models have a red or orange LED light at the tip that glows every time you take a puff. There are also other e-cig models that look like pipes, ballpoint pens or cell phones. Just choose a style that suits your needs and personality!


    ELECTRONIC CIGARETTE FAQS

    An electronic cigarette generally consists of three main components: a cartridge/mouthpiece, atomizer (heating element), and battery. The cartridge acts as an e-liquid reservoir and also serves as a mouthpiece on one end. When a user inhales through the mouthpiece, an air flow sensor activates the atomizer which heats up the e-liquid inside the cartridge and converts it into smoke-like vapor that a user inhales.



    Electronic cigarettes can either come with an automatic or manual battery. For a e-cigarette with an automatic battery you simply inhale through the device to start smoking or ‘vaping’. On the other hand, a manual battery features a button that you press while inhaling. The button is a good feature to have since it lets you have better control on your draw time, allowing you to take longer drags. You can, for instance, press the button a few seconds longer before inhaling to pre-heat the e-liquid and produce warmer vapor and a stronger throat hit. At first, the button may seem awkward to beginners – but it only takes 5 minutes to get the hang of.



    E-liquids are available in differing nicotine concentrations, ranging from zero nicotine to high. Nicotine-containing e-liquids consist of liquid pharmacy grade nicotine, water, natural and artificial flavorings, and propylene glycol (PG) or vegetable glycerin (VG). Both PG and VG are common food additives and “are generally recognized as safe” for use by the FDA.

    ARE ELECTRONIC CIGARETTES SAFE?

    Many experts think that electronic cigarettes are a healthier and safer alternative to tobacco cigarettes. However, since e-cigarettes are fairly new in the market, it will require many years of scientific study to further support these claims. Note that electronic cigarettes deliver some nicotine contents, which are considered addictive, but, unlike tobacco cigarettes, e-cigarettes have various nicotine levels, which enable you to systematically wean off your nicotine cravings.
    dude you're totally missing the point of the news. actually what you posted is exactly what the news is trying to avoid.

    we are not talking about the benefits of ecigars for the current cigarette "addicts". we are talking about the potential of enticing more people to smoke because of the "too good to be true" nature of e-cigars. I call it bad marketing on the side of ecigars. instead of curbing out potential smokers, they are doing the opposite. I don't care about the benefits it has for current smokers. all I care is the potential harm that it would do to the non-smoking population.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarevok View Post
    dude you're totally missing the point of the news. actually what you posted is exactly what the news is trying to avoid.

    we are not talking about the benefits of ecigars for the current cigarette "addicts". we are talking about the potential of enticing more people to smoke because of the "too good to be true" nature of e-cigars. I call it bad marketing on the side of ecigars. instead of curbing out potential smokers, they are doing the opposite. I don't care about the benefits it has for current smokers. all I care is the potential harm that it would do to the non-smoking population.
    But do you know bro, that based on our marketing survey globally majority of ecig users are EXISTING TOBACCO smokers. You read through forums of ecig users online and understand kung naa ba kay makit-an nga ecig user nga non-tobacco cigarette user. Those nga mag suway suway ug ecig kuno without experiencing the use of tobacco cigarettes are there to test the device and so far dili avid vapers. If ikaw mismo are not into smoking why would you try an ecig which is a smoking cessation device para lang mo suway suway?!?!

    Plus, its the serious smokers who are switching to ecigs. The cost of owning a set of device is expensive (3k pesos), compared to simply buying a pack of cigarettes (50 pesos). So if di ka tig sigarilyo nga tawo, mo gasto ba ka ug 3k lang and in the end venture into smoking the ACTUAL/REAL cigarettes? Maypag mo derecho nalang ko palit ug sigarilyo kung mao ng storyaa.

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