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    Quote Originally Posted by <SMILE> View Post
    If the accusation is outside the jurisdiction of the church
    meaning it's the law of the land sensitive, then why ask the church leadership
    to do the litigation.
    immoral acts (e.g. sexcual scandals) sa mga church leaders ....
    imbestigahan
    sa mga dagko nga organization, kasagaran ilaha gamiton ang findings sa ila internal/external investigation aron mo himo ug preventive measures aron dili na usab

    church = morality

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    Quote Originally Posted by <SMILE> View Post
    If the accusation is outside the jurisdiction of the church
    meaning it's the law of the land sensitive, then why ask the church leadership
    to do the litigation. Let me imply once more that if one is accused he should be proven
    guilty beyond reasonable doubt, and now what would the role of the leadership then,
    make it's own inquiry for what? bring again suspicion of impartiality, let the third party
    the most credible rule of law take it's course, and by that time the role of the leadership sets
    in to protect it's members, and let me tell NO ONE is above the law nor strong men nor religion.
    mate you are talking about one of the world's most corrupt countries.

    the Vatican will protect theyre own kind from public humiliation otherwise less people will believe the church and less will give donations. where else do you think they make a living for themselves?LOL

    although im sure they are quite aware of whats happening behind close doors they choose not to say a word or do anything about it which I think is very appalling.

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    I think they wouldn't have covered up those child abuse/rape scandal had they discovered that those priests were wearing condoms. They'd have used up all the curses of Deuteronomy in those condemnations.

    Who knows, after enough time has passed, they'll come up with "new evidence" that actually puts the blame on the victims and they'll suddenly open up archives (with doctored documents, of course) to show that the Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith (formerly the Inquisition committee) was actually very heroic and caring. I wouldn't be shocked at all with their attempts at historical revisionism. Some Catholic clergymen have even tried to deny that the Holocaust did no exist!

    Even @newbie is doing the same thing, making it seem that the Catholic Church was the pioneering anti-slavery champion, or that Pius XII made strong condemnations against the Shoa ...and then he'll pull off diversionary tactics when debating, like focusing on trifle things and attacking you personally instead of focusing on the arguments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by masakiton View Post
    immoral acts (e.g. sexcual scandals) sa mga church leaders ....
    imbestigahan
    sa mga dagko nga organization, kasagaran ilaha gamiton ang findings sa ila internal/external investigation aron mo himo ug preventive measures aron dili na usab

    church = morality
    As I've said let the third party do the investigation,
    that is more credible, and the role of the church
    is not to meddle to bring forth transparency.

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    ^^ not to meddle...and don't forget....not to cover up, not to transfer erring priests to faraway parishes.

  6. #96

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    Quote Originally Posted by nitwit View Post
    mate you are talking about one of the world's most corrupt countries.

    the Vatican will protect theyre own kind from public humiliation otherwise less people will believe the church and less will give donations. where else do you think they make a living for themselves?LOL

    although im sure they are quite aware of whats happening behind close doors they choose not to say a word or do anything about it which I think is very appalling.
    So you are now implying lawlessness,
    a default of the rules of law just to make the priests guilty,
    it's not just prejudice but a blatant and unreasonable assertion lawlessness,
    are we in that state now? no laws running for us?

    And then again how did you know if it's closed doors?,
    and by the way about our meager dontaions to survive the church
    we are not coersed to do so we freely gave, no deductions from
    our salary whatsoever a not so sound source if business is what you want to
    push through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nitwit View Post
    mate you are talking about one of the world's most corrupt countries.

    the Vatican will protect theyre own kind from public humiliation otherwise less people will believe the church and less will give donations. where else do you think they make a living for themselves?LOL

    although im sure they are quite aware of whats happening behind close doors they choose not to say a word or do anything about it which I think is very appalling.
    So you are now implying lawlessness,
    a default of the rules of law just to make the priests guilty,
    it's not just prejudice but a blatant and unreasonable assertion lawlessness,
    are we in that state now? no laws running for us?

    And then again how did you know if it's closed doors?,
    and by the way about our meager dontaions to survive the church
    we are not coersed to do so we freely gave, no deductions from
    our salary whatsoever a not so sound source if business is what you want to
    push through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by <SMILE> View Post
    As I've said let the third party do the investigation,
    that is more credible, and the role of the church
    is not to meddle to bring forth transparency.
    unsa mai naa anang mo bulgar sa dili mga maayo nga binuhatan sa isa ka organization aron ma puno or i tabang sa future or ongoing investigation
    Last edited by masakiton; 06-21-2013 at 12:11 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by <SMILE> View Post
    As I've said let the third party do the investigation,
    that is more credible, and the role of the church
    is not to meddle to bring forth transparency.
    third party....as in paid for them....will help assist logistics to another place....and let the media cover another story and no follow-up....disappear like it never happened...third party?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bears Grill View Post
    I think they wouldn't have covered up those child abuse/rape scandal had they discovered that those priests were wearing condoms. They'd have used up all the curses of Deuteronomy in those condemnations.

    Ah you think, and it's a very good premise of your conclusion, a very good portrayal there
    do you do it more often, or maybe you are so paranoid even you suspect a mere priest to be a competitor,
    shame on you if that is the case.



    Who knows, after enough time has passed, they'll come up with "new evidence" that actually puts the blame on the victims and they'll suddenly open up archives (with doctored documents, of course) to show that the Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith (formerly the Inquisition committee) was actually very heroic and caring. I wouldn't be shocked at all with their attempts at historical revisionism. Some Catholic clergymen have even tried to deny that the Holocaust did no exist!

    Well for the millions of Italians,Japanese, and Germans killed during the second world war
    was justified because they are the agressor, I think we have the right to defend our faith, and of course
    only for our own, and sorry about the holocaust it's about hitler and the jews, and jews are jews not roman catholics


    Even @newbie is doing the same thing, making it seem that the Catholic Church was the pioneering anti-slavery champion, or that Pius XII made strong condemnations against the Shoa, and the other diversionary tactics.

    We could not take direct responsibility of things not actually created by the church,
    .........................

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