Terrorist Attack in London

[21guns]

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Please state exactly what verse are you quoting and from what chapter?

Just found in the internet it could be just mistranslation though.

But here list of verse that The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule.
Please enlighted us if these are truth or not.

Here are samples just check the link for more.
Tabari 9:69 "Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us" The words of Muhammad, prophet of Islam.

Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 327: - “Allah said, ‘A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.’”

Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 992: - "Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah." Muhammad's instructions to his men prior to a military raid.



The Quran's Verses of Violence

[LaBelleza]

The site thereligionofpeace.com is anti-Islamic. Don't trust it.

Edited: Also, they are not verses from the Quran, Tabari/Ishaq were collectors of narrations and untrustworthy/unauthentic I might add.

[C'thulhu]

Why is it that Muslims can build mosques in Christian or countries with other dominant faiths, but those of other faiths can't build temples or churches in Islamic countries?

[LaBelleza]

Saudi Arabia is strict coz they're greedy (there might be some unknown), but!!.....Bangladesh, Azerbaijan, Church of Our Lady of Rosary in Qatar! Bahrain, Kuwait, Jordan, Morocco, Syria, there is an Anglican church in Yemen, Indonesia (Indonesians make up for most of the Muslim population) Beyoglu Church in Istanbul. And this is just a small list!

Also, where did Christianity come from? Guess...The M_dd_e E_st

In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.
Say: Oh you who turn away
I do not worship what you worship,
nor do you worship what I worship.
And I will not worship what you worship,
Nor will you worship what I worship.
Your way is yours, and my way is mine.

Quran, Surah Al Kafirun (The Unbelievers)

[C'thulhu]

Good to know that, but can missionaries of other faiths freely go into those islamic countries and freely spread their faith? Just like Muslim missionarries do in other non islamic countries.

Yea Christianity do share the same roots ad Islam, but there are also others that don't.

[machinecult]

Saudi Arabia is strict coz they're greedy (there might be some unknown), but!!.....Bangladesh, Azerbaijan, Church of Our Lady of Rosary in Qatar! Bahrain, Kuwait, Jordan, Morocco, Syria, there is an Anglican church in Yemen, Indonesia (Indonesians make up for most of the Muslim population) Beyoglu Church in Istanbul. And this is just a small list!


Also, where did Christianity come from? Guess...The M_dd_e E_st

It's not the place its the way of thinking. Neighborhoods in Europe today are turning to rubble, crime-wave and rape are skyrocketing and are done mainly and mostly by Muslim immigrants. May I ask why is Islam so prone to radicalization and violence compared to other religions? Why is it the only religion where someone gets killed for drawing Muhammad or poking fun of its tracts if its a peaceful religion? In March 2013 alone there were about 198 terrorist attacks all committed by Muslims - one month - 988 deaths!

Where is the Muslim community and other so-called moderate Muslims condemning these attacks and heinous acts? When we criticize Islam extremism were called islamophobes or anti-Islam. I'm not anti-Islam but I'm also not delusional. I think the fear is real and we have the right to be reactionary and realistic because our lives depend on it.

[newbie.86]

Europeans could either reclaim their Christian identity and fight aggressive Islamification of Europe

, or watch being slowly subjugated by Islam... either by the sword or by their politically-corrrect Constitutions being imposed on them by their liberal leaders.

Surely, a war will break out in Europe along the lines of RELIGION.

[LaBelleza]

I wish ppl would stop calling them Muslim coz if they're killing, they're not being Muslim. No way. But it seems easier to just brand them that way. Easier than saying "Horrible people doing bad things who happen to be Muslim coz they say they are and look like one". Those who attack Islam (or attack "in the name of Islam") have no proper knowledge about the religion. As a convert myself, I took it upon myself to really learn about it and lo and behold! Despite all that was happening and the rubbish on the news, I accepted it as the haqq (the truth).

So since WW2 from what happened in China, Iraq 1960, Argentina 1976, Turkey 1980, Philippines and Libya in 1986 (700,000 Libyans killed!), ......til now. Should we start adding them all up? We can say they have been terrorized in some form or another, by Muslims? No. To terrorize means to create fear and distress (regardless of who they are).

It's the integrity of the religion that they're defending. Obviously some go way too far. When we see images of Prophet Jesus (pbuh) in a cap and smoking weed or on a shirt saying "Jesus is coming, look busy!" Can you honestly say it's just a joke and brush it off? I was deeply offended one time going into a shop and seeing that (as an Catholic a few years ago and more so now as a Muslim). Look, I dunno what's going on in these radical psycho minds but they are loopy, seriously. The best way to defend Islam, is to practice Islam. We should do Jihad. Jihad = to purify our souls by restraining from evil doing. Our books, tell us (to put it simply) to do good. So we can't blame a religion. We must start focusing on the crime itself and deal with them accordingly no matter how un-sexy and unsensational it sounds for TV.

Where are these condemning these attacks? *points to self* and please refer back to a previous post where I had already replied to a similar question.

Another myth to bust: Islam spread by the sword.

[LaBelleza]

Good to know that, but can missionaries of other faiths freely go into those islamic countries and freely spread their faith? Just like Muslim missionarries do in other non islamic countries.

Yea Christianity do share the same roots ad Islam, but there are also others that don't.

Tbh, I don't know the situation of Christian missionaries. But they shouldn't feel intimidated. Islam teaches tolerance (despite popular belief that it doesn't). A couple of old Christian ladies came to my front door and handed me pamphlets about Jesus even after I told them that I'm Muslim. And subhan'Allah they carried on their cute little way doing their thing. It's a small thing but that's how it should be. Proper (trying to be proper) Muslims like myself do exist. U pbbly know that.

[machinecult]

I wish ppl would stop calling them Muslim coz if they're killing, they're not being Muslim. No way. But it seems easier to just brand them that way. Easier than saying "Horrible people doing bad things who happen to be Muslim coz they say they are and look like one". Those who attack Islam (or attack "in the name of Islam") have no proper knowledge about the religion. As a convert myself, I took it upon myself to really learn about it and lo and behold! Despite all that was happening and the rubbish on the news, I accepted it as the haqq (the truth).

But they ARE Muslims. Lets just call a spade card a spade and not a heart or club card, shall we? I despise political correctness because it covers reality with misleading titles and I do not say 'Muslim' just to berate, mock or insult you or others. These are just facts. I have nothing but respect towards people who value their religion. But when comes to using it to intimidate, harm, and kill and then turn a blind eye on and ignore it so not to insult its adherents then that's just ridiculous.

It's the integrity of the religion that they're defending. Obviously some go way too far. When we see images of Prophet Jesus (pbuh) in a cap and smoking weed or on a shirt saying "Jesus is coming, look busy!" Can you honestly say it's just a joke and brush it off?

Yes as a matter of fact I can. I see it all the time. I don't like it but it's too nonsensical to dwell on. It's like being teased by a little kid. You don't beat up the little kid. The same way no embassy gets burned to the ground, no medical personnel in Afghanistan gets beheaded in retaliation - there's a big difference.