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  1. #151

    So Germany got a double bitch slap from Russia and Japan, technically Japan tricked Germany.

    Well that isn't the only factor why Germany lost the war Operation Barbarossa was only the result of the whole German system being dysfunctional at the core. From the late shift into war economy to Hitlers constant meddling with his Generals plans.
    Last edited by wikki; 05-23-2013 at 10:08 AM.

  2. #152
    Quote Originally Posted by wikki View Post
    So Germany got a double bitch slap from Russia and Japan, technically Japan tricked Germany.

    Well that isn't the only factor why Germany lost the war Operation Barbarossa was only the result of the whole German system being dysfunctional at the core. From the late shift into war economy to Hitlers constant meddling with his Generals plans.
    This is one reason why politicians need to keep their heads in politics, not war planning. THe same goes with Attila the Hun, he's was good in commanding vast forces and engineering seiges, but was really bad in managing and "politicking" occupied regions.

  3. #153
    ^but the Bush's of america are good at both...Kuwait and Iraq...and Afghanistan...
    family business?

  4. #154
    Quote Originally Posted by wikki View Post
    So Germany got a double bitch slap from Russia and Japan, technically Japan tricked Germany.

    Well that isn't the only factor why Germany lost the war Operation Barbarossa was only the result of the whole German system being dysfunctional at the core. From the late shift into war economy to Hitlers constant meddling with his Generals plans.
    Actually Japan did not trick out Germany whatsoever. Japan is just aware that kung mu-attack ang Russian nila, Japan herself would be fighting at all fronts and they cannot afford to wage such war. Still hostile ang Russia towards Japan that immediately after the fall of Berlin, Russia mobilized its troops towards Japan.

  5. #155
    sipyat jd ning NAZI

  6. #156
    Quote Originally Posted by kit_cebu View Post
    ^but the Bush's of america are good at both...Kuwait and Iraq...and Afghanistan...
    family business?
    Moot point ni bro. Conspiracy theories won't work as a base for historical comparisons. Conspiracy theories aren't even allowed on History threads.

  7. #157
    Quote Originally Posted by prukutung View Post
    Actually Japan did not trick out Germany whatsoever. Japan is just aware that kung mu-attack ang Russian nila, Japan herself would be fighting at all fronts and they cannot afford to wage such war. Still hostile ang Russia towards Japan that immediately after the fall of Berlin, Russia mobilized its troops towards Japan.
    Yes, and this is why Harry Truman needs to end the war in the Asia-Pacific theatre before the Russians step in. They can't afford cutting Japan in half again like what happened to Berlin. And then hell came loose in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

  8. #158
    overconfident man gud kaayo si hitler tungod sa iyang successes from 1939-41. if only he concentrated in north africa first before invading russia, oil wouldnt be a big issue for his troops

  9. #159
    fighting on two fronts proved to be too much for germany...if germany had taken advantage of that non-aggression pact they had with russia and concentrated their might against the western allies--they would have somehow extended the war for a time...

  10. #160
    Quote Originally Posted by iron_cross View Post
    fighting on two fronts proved to be too much for germany...if germany had taken advantage of that non-aggression pact they had with russia and concentrated their might against the western allies--they would have somehow extended the war for a time...
    or.... they could have won the war.

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