Philippine Coast Guard Shoot down Taiwanese Illegal Poachers

[emow]

In my observation, one thing for sure in every situation like this where our country is figured in international crisis, the opposing parties and its government are almost always in solidarity with one another. In contrast we are very fragmented and divided with such issues. That i guess is proof that their country and culture is much stronger and united than ours...

This nationalism they exhibit is the herd mentality of being childish, ridiculous, and totally absurd. Our fragmentation is caused by having people with common sense and logic in analyzing the issue against with fellow Filipinos exhibiting the same herd mentality of being childish, ridiculous and totally absurd. This response of Taiwan will be recorded as an embarrassment in their history.

[C'thulhu]

You point out the fact of what i capped about the majority and you are offended? na bullseye sa? figures, hunax2 lagi. ni basa man kaha ka sa mga random replies diri, in which case some are really dumb they probably didn't even read the thead and just posted what they feel which is common. how can you say "opinion" when they dont even know of the topic, thats trolling.

Nah I'm not offended, maybe you are perhaps? Was merely stating a fact. To you it may not be an opinion, but to the posters they are and is what they think regarding the situation. Why don't you try to educate people instead of resorting to personal attacks? You seem to be capable of doing so. The discussion could be more productive that way, imho.

some random member posting "lets go to war" "die chinks" and so on, you consider that as opinion? thats not even a proper statement, thats them being stupid and posting random crap. heck they even post the same kind on crap on the news sites where taiwanese netizens and reviewers got to read them all. Then you ask why the hell did Taiwan have such an outblown reaction over the incident, lets thank the random replies then.



Disputed islands is a totally different issue, and they arrested not shoot and kill.

Na puaki natong video.

Yes, yes as you can see there are quite a lot of stupid posts here too... Don't you think trying to help educate them can be more beneficial than just labeling them as such?


jm2c

[C'thulhu]

It's culture, Filipinos don't have any nationalistic values whatsoever, even if they say so it stays only at that level "words". When push comes to shove most will just play ignorant bystanders and wont even offer a helping hand. This is fact and this is one of the reasons why foreign powers are so successful againts us.

Sadly I do agree on this and is a bit frustrating at times, but it does not mean that we as a people can't change for the better.

[juck401]

I think the PCGs acts are legitimate, and no controversy involved.

[<SMILE>]

Sorry to say this, but this post is not helping at all...

Sorry to say this also, but my sentiments lays entirely
for the filipinos for I am one.
We should stand on our ground,
and do everything we could to make ourselves a slave
of their prowess, even the US sympathize over us for not
condemning the tragedy, how come some of us do.

We have sovereignty and integrity how many we did kill
to champion that before, how many heroes being made just because,
we do have that sense of nationalism, are we willing to sacrifice this and lose
face just because we are contending a nation that is far more superior than us,
and that now is pure BS.
They can still find work somewhere else, and we can still do business somewhere
else. F%$k them I could say.

[C'thulhu]

Sorry to say this also, but my sentiments lays entirely
for the filipinos for I am one.
We should stand on our ground,
and do everything we could to make ourselves a slave
of their prowess, even the US sympathize over us for not
condemning the tragedy, how come some of us do.

We have sovereignty and integrity how many we did kill
to champion that before, how many heroes being made just because,
we do have that sense of nationalism, are we willing to sacrifice this and lose
face just because we are contending a nation that is far more superior than us,
and that now is pure BS.
They can still find work somewhere else, and we can still do business somewhere
else. F%$k them I could say.

They also have as much right to their opinions as you and I do. Imho, questioning them of their being Filipino or not does not seem right because of their opinions are contrary to yours.

What is a Filipino anyway? Is it a race? A nationality? Culture? People? Citizenship? Or perhaps even a concept?

I

[<SMILE>]

They also have as much right to their opinions as you and I do. Imho, questioning them of their being Filipino or not does not seem right because of their opinions are contrary to yours.

What is a Filipino anyway? Is it a race? A nationality? Culture? People? Citizenship? Or perhaps even a concept?

I

Sorry to say but I'm a filipino,
and I have the full right to defend who I am and what I have,
if you don't know then better ask yourself who you are.

[balipseyev]

MaxDefense

kindly give a minute before posting a comment.

This was posted sa lain website.

Nice find....

[devnull]

MaxDefense

kindly give a minute before posting a comment.

This was posted sa lain website.

salamat kaau sa link bai. that blog post is very informative.

i recommend that people read the post linked above. it looks like the taiwanese fishing boat that allegedly tried to ram our CG is only slightly smaller so it could very well have created serious damage to the CG boat and putting the lives of people on board in grave danger. so, self-defense might truly have been warranted BUT.. we know nothing, juan sho. let's wait for the result of the investigation. if it shows our CG used excessive force then the pnoy govt should charge them accordingly and amend our apology to the taiwanese govt. if it's found that our CG acted on self-defense and/or the killing was an accident (it is mentioned in the blog post that our CG fired on engine room to disable the boat but the fisherman was inside) then we can only hope that the taiwanese govt accept it.

i don't know anyone currently working in taiwan right now but it's not easy reading news about our OFWs there being turned away from restaurants and grocery stores. there's one report of one being beaten. emotions run high, people react differently. i wished it didn't lead to this and i hope it doesn't get any worse and if the situation was other way around that we don't react the way they did. so yes, a big NO-NO to those inciting violence against taiwanese here. even if it's a joke, it's a bad/dumb joke. this is a public forum. anyone can read our posts. so post/discuss sensibly. keep your emotions in check.

[C'thulhu]

Sorry to say but I'm a filipino,
and I have the full right to defend who I am and what I have,
if you don't know then better ask yourself who you are.

Oh I do know who I am.

And yes you do have all the rights to defend who you are and what you have, no question about that.

I am asking you what is your definition of a Filipino as you are quick to question others if they are one.