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  1. #111

    If you have read the reports, the shooting was not meant to kill but to disable the vessel from ramming the tiny BFAR patrol boat. Take a close look at that boat, it is small it can't do well if it is rammed. As per the reports, those fishing vessels were apprehended within Philippine territory, the PCG/BFAR are doing law enforcement duties, they tried to elude arrest and when almost caught they attempted to ram our BFAR boat. The captain of that boat took the necessary measure to protect the boat and his crew from the hostile act of the intruder by trying to disable the ramming vessels machinery, too bad so sad in the process somebody died.

    Look at Russia, almost the same thing happened to them not too long ago with a couple of Chinese fishing boats against their coast guard near Vladivostok. One of the Chinese vessels sank and the other one was captured and towed back to Vladivostok by the Russian CG. Seeing that we do not usually stand our ground, the Taiwanese are pushing us for some sort of fishing agreement, which is obviously to their benefit.

  2. #112
    Quote Originally Posted by C'thulhu View Post
    If you have read the reports, the shooting was not meant to kill but to disable the vessel from ramming the tiny BFAR patrol boat. Take a close look at that boat, it is small it can't do well if it is rammed. As per the reports, those fishing vessels were apprehended within Philippine territory, the PCG/BFAR are doing law enforcement duties, they tried to elude arrest and when almost caught they attempted to ram our BFAR boat. The captain of that boat took the necessary measure to protect the boat and his crew from the hostile act of the intruder by trying to disable the ramming vessels machinery, too bad so sad in the process somebody died.

    Look at Russia, almost the same thing happened to them not too long ago with a couple of Chinese fishing boats against their coast guard near Vladivostok. One of the Chinese vessels sank and the other one was captured and towed back to Vladivostok by the Russian CG. Seeing that we do not usually stand our ground, the Taiwanese are pushing us for some sort of fishing agreement, which is obviously to their benefit.
    Kaluoy nalang jud intawon sa UNDERDOG nga nasod nato. Hoping this will change in the upcoming years.

  3. #113
    It will be okay, if only astrayed or unintentional
    entry, but if it is clear that the intent is to plunder
    and to abuse because they think that they could abuse,
    then what would you do.

    In addition we do have our own share,
    as we could reflect what happened in Sabah,
    few months back.
    Last edited by <SMILE>; 05-15-2013 at 05:47 PM.

  4. #114
    [img]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-fAmwe3mIUik/UZKnrwsFWnI/AAAAAAABGy0/we_1j_wDr6I*******Taiwanese%2BFishermen%2BShoot%2BDead%2Bby%2BPhilip pine%2BCoast%2BGuard%2B%2509in%2BBalintang%2BChann el%2Bin%2Bthe%2BPhilippines-776620.png[/img]


    So far wala jud naka hatag ug informaton regarding sa investigation ang PH side. Hilom man ang palace murag media blackout.


    According to Taiwan's investigation:

    1) The unarmed fishing boat did not ram against PCG, as there is no mark or evidence.
    2) More than 30 bullet holes found on the fishing boat from the heavy machine gun.
    3)The incident happened on the overlapped economic zones of the both countries.

    Hinaoat maka release na ang Palace sa ilang investigation.
    Last edited by flanker; 05-15-2013 at 05:50 PM.

  5. #115
    Based sa photo above, within the Philippines jud nahitabo ang incident... Before Batanes pa man tong naay mark na "A"...
    Syempre bias jud ang ipagawas na result sa Taiwan...
    Musulti pud unta ang Philippines about sa ato side diri lang kay puro 'sorry'... Wa pa gani mahuman investigation...

  6. #116
    ^^ The incident happen on balintang channel, that is well within our 12NM territorial waters...

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanillaicecream88 View Post
    Based sa photo above, within the Philippines jud nahitabo ang incident... Before Batanes pa man tong naay mark na "A"...
    Syempre bias jud ang ipagawas na result sa Taiwan...
    Musulti pud unta ang Philippines about sa ato side diri lang kay puro 'sorry'... Wa pa gani mahuman investigation...
    Basig humana bro pero wala pa gi-release kai pie-in-face nasad ang resulta sa video ani sa atoang gobyerno...

  8. #118
    Taiwan's true intention is now revealed, they want us to sign their shared fishing agreement, much like what they had with Japan, and what we have with Indonesia and Papua New Guinea...

  9. #119
    US again declines to condemn Manila over shooting

    Despite strong pressure and repeated efforts, the US has again declined to issue an outright condemnation of the Philippines for shooting a Taiwanese fisherman.
    However, US Department of State spokesperson Jennifer Psaki has confirmed that Washington is now trying to play a role in calming the growing crisis.
    “We regret the tragic death of a Taiwan fishing boat master during the May 9 confrontation at sea with a Philippine patrol vessel,” Psaki said on Monday.
    “The United States has been in touch with both the Philippine government and the Taiwan authorities regarding the incident,” she said.
    Psaki said that the US welcomed the Philippine government’s pledge to conduct a “full and transparent” investigation.
    While the State Department has refused to give details, sources with knowledge of the situation told the Taipei Times that US diplomats are currently talking to both sides and strongly urging caution.
    Asked if the US was worried about a possible escalation, Psaki said: “We continue to urge all parties, in any scenario, to ensure maritime safety and to refrain from provocative actions.”
    “The Philippine government is going to be conducting an investigation and they will be working with the Taiwan authorities to establish what happened in this case,” she said.
    Pressed to condemn the Philippine authorities for firing on the Taiwanese boat, Psaki appeared to equivocate.
    She was asked to explain what actions Taiwan had taken that the US was concerned about when only one side — the Philippines — had actually done any shooting.
    “When you’re warning both sides, you’re giving an equivalency. What is the Taiwanese action that you’re concerned about?” Psaki was asked.
    “The Philippine government is looking into this case — I don’t want to get ahead of their process of investigating what happened,” she said.
    At a regular daily press briefing, Psaki was again pressured to be more specific.
    “The Taiwanese fisherman was unarmed. It’s a fishing boat — small compared to the government vessel that the Filipinos had. When you say confrontation, only one side was shooting the other, using a machine gun. Fifty-nine bullet holes were found in that small boat. I want you to comment on the fact that someone opened fire in the South China Sea,” a reporter said.
    Psaki said that she was just making a broad point that both sides should refrain from provocative actions.
    “I’m not going to speculate on this specific case,” she said.
    Asked where, in the US’ view, the shooting took place, Psaki said: “The precise location of the incident is not yet clear, although it appears the incident took place in or near disputed waters, where both claim fishing rights.”
    Psaki said that the US regretted the “tragic death” and encouraged “peaceful negotiation and peaceful resolution.”
    “When you see people doing things that run directly counter to behavior that would lead to stability, are you going to stand up and point that out, and hold these governments to account? You’re holding the victimizer and the victim to equal account, so it doesn’t seem to match,” the reporter said.
    Psaki replied: “There will be an investigation run by the Philippine government into what happened here. I don’t think that is holding both sides to the same account.”
    It was the second time the US Department of State has refused to condemn the incident.

    US again declines to condemn Manila over shooting - Taipei Times

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