How do you obtain Salvation?

[%75life4Him]

ikaw maoy wa kasabut bai, again I was NOT referring to Practices, Views on Jesus of the Islamic Faith when i said prehas ra tag Ginoo sa ilaha which is si Allah ug atoang Father God basing from Abrahamic religions ..
mao ning ingun i don't see any connection sa imung gi comment nga they don't believe that Jesus was crucified..etc...
AGAIN for the Nth time NOT TALKING about Islamic views on Jesus,practices etc when i said Allah and Christian God which is Father God(first person in the Trinity) kay prehas ra...
obviously mao bitaw di sila mutoo ni Jesus as God because they rejected the TRINITY but that is NOT the point i am trying to raise, ni inngun ba gud ko nga si Jesus ug si Allah prehas ra? i paste daw beh...sus!

well kung ang concept sa Trinity atong basehan since Jesus and the Father are 1,prehas ra....
PERO specifically si Father God akong pasabut in comparison with Allah.
...sweto ra kaayo ka! again...IKAW maoy wa kasabut!


tan.awa ra jud pagkatoy2x nimu...HAGIT? hoy! discussion ni di ni pa maayohayng laki..bai wa koy panahon anang kita2x tawn sa gawas oi!
ibutang na imung verse diri.

Di diay ko. Ug kung ibutang nako di man gihapun ka kasabot.

when i mentioned about moral judgement, it was actually to clarify if mao ba imung pasabut when you said maka judge ang mga Kristohanon...


pareho nako nga unsa? kay nganu wa ka ma highblood? basing sa imung mga comment bai...HIGHBLOOD ka do! or kung ing ana lang jud ka muistorya

I dont know if you know what highblood means. Thats illness. fyi Noy, dili tanang nasuko highblood, dili tanang highblood masukanun. Is this a proof of ignorance? Hehehehe

it means you don't have freakin manners! you call yourself a Chrisitan?

Why? are you not a christian? Wa koy labot sa imo gihunahuna. that is so lame.

ultimo respeto diri sa forum di nimu mabuhat2x...SWETO pa jud kaayo kang dako!

Ako sweto. Ikaw? Dili sweto? Nganung nagaapil apil man ka aning topica. Musurrender ra ba dayun ka.

bai, basaha nang imung gi reply sa ako, do you think reply na sa usa ka muhigugmaong Christian? cge pa jud kag balik2x nga ni undang ko sa atong discussion bahin sa purgatory ug indulgence
NATURAL! we have different views..gi respeto nako imung views bahin Salvation, purgatory and indulgence...unsa pa may atong istoryahan

mao bitaw ni ingun ko nga the most Chrsitian thing to do is to agree to disagree..GETS nimu bai?

di ko prehas nimu nga ipamugos ug unsay imuha...ug di ko prehas nimu murag kahibaw sa kinatibuk.an sa tanan-tanan
unsa ka Ginoo?


tigpatunga? di ko mediator diri ninyo oi!
i am not taking sides either ! i firmly believe in the Christian Faith to the point that i do not need to argue with those
who do not share the same Faith. but would rather respect thier views.


Did i say that for the sake of unity i will renounce my Christian faith?
you assume too much...again, sweto ra kaayo ka!
my ONLY point here is RESPECT for the DIFFERENCES...
if Muslims say they will be saved through whatever means of salvation they believe...LET THEM BE!



This is a FORUM! a general discussion where everyone in the FORUM can post, comment, react etc...
this is not an EXCLUSIVE debate where only 2 individuals can deliver lines...KASABUT naka nganu naay mu comment sa imung post maski lahi imung kaistorya?
ITS NOT binastos bai, IT IS the nature in these type of discussions.

speaking of binastos..basaha na imung mga earlier comments sa akong mga post ug imung mga post towards sa muslim nga forumer...
MAO TOY BINASTOS!

Ambot nalang nimo noy. Ayaw lageg pasagad ug butt in sa discussion sa uban para di ka matawgan ug bastos. Sensitive ra ba gud ka kaayo.

Hala sge ego na. Wa hinungdan ning lalisa.

[slabdans]

sus...nimo life...clone ka ni mandirigma sa?

parehas kaayo mog style

maoha gyud oh
https://www.istorya.net/forums/genera...l#post14201987

[noy]

Di diay ko. Ug kung ibutang nako di man gihapun ka kasabot. .

Christian nga manghagit ug BIBLE study kay SWETO kaayo is now throwing INSULTS...i don't know about you guys(other forumers) but i see contradictions...Lol

sure ka Christian ka bai? your responses don't seem Christ-like.
you claim to know details about Biblical accounts but you clearly missed the very essence of Jesus' message.

not being able to understand is WAY TOO DIFFERENT from not agreeing. Gets?
i understood what you were saying, i JUSTDON'T agree with them(referring to our previous convo..salvation,purgatory etc) ,.Period

simple ra kaayo akong Gisulti diri nga thread. i said Allah and Father God(first person in the Trinity)are the same in reference to Abrahamic religions...
simple! and there you were, talking about Islamic views on Jesus...unya? nakasabot kaha ka? Please....
wa juy connection akong gi istorya ug imong comment.

I dont know if you know what highblood means. Thats illness. fyi Noy, dili tanang nasuko highblood, dili tanang highblood masukanun. Is this a proof of ignorance? Hehehehe
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proof of ignorance sa imung mata?

the term "highblood" of course is a DESEASE BUT aside from its medical Definition it has also been widely associated and generally accepted among the natives(pinoys)
as a Slang term for loosing the temper..i don't know why am i even explaining this to you...

ay kog ingna brad nga sukad sa imung pagkabata, wa ka kasugat ug mga tao nga muingun ayg ka highblood in the event nga sapoton ang tao
or even ikaw mismo mugamit ka ana... you even understood the term
kay when i first used it , niingun ko nga ayg ka highblood bai, unsay imung reply?
ingun ka nga isn't that a form of placing of judgement...MEANING? ? ?
you understood that the term "highblood" is a Filipino Slang for loosing temper....
ay sus nimu bai...ay na gud pa george2x diha...(that is another slang term by the way)
slang term for paligoy-ligoy padoding...or unsa pa na dihang mananapa! haha

or basin mu ingun ka nga walang ganyan sa States! pagka Lol nalang jud nimu...

Why? are you not a christian? Wa koy labot sa imo gihunahuna. that is so lame.

basing from our previous conversations, and on this one...you seemed so sure
to be more knowledgeable about Christianity, Bible and Jesus...that's not a problelem really...
the problem is, why does your knowledge about Jesus and your relationship with Jesus
do not show in your replies? to whom much is given much is expected!
you claim to know more(basing from our replies), you tend to give lectures when what was required is just a simple discussion.
makes me wonder, do you really know that much?
this by the way is what Faith being justified by works is all about..
you say and claim one thing but your ACTIONS aren't confirming. tsk tsk tsk.

Ako sweto. Ikaw? Dili sweto? Nganung nagaapil apil man ka aning topica. Musurrender ra ba dayun ka.

one doesn't have to be a GENIUS to join a discussion in a forum..
you often redicule me for not being able to grasp your wild ideas.(although imu ra pud nang opinion Lol ).so No i am not sweto...
you on the other hand tends to lecture everyone that comes your way...SWETO!

surrender? Don't you ever read replies? or you're just too overwhelmed thinking you know it all..
would you rather have a conversation where no point is going through the other party,not becuase one party failed to connect BUT simply because both parties have already taken
roots from separate and different POVs? WHAT'S THE POINT OF HAVING A CONVERSATION IN THE FIRST PLACE?
for the NTH time! that is the reason why i did not pursue our conversation. and it was suppose to be in RESPECT with your POV.
pero imung tan.aw kay pamaayohayng LAKI? please...that was never the point in a CHRISTIAN CONVERSATION in the first place.
think whatever you want...

Ambot nalang nimo noy. Ayaw lageg pasagad ug butt in sa discussion sa uban para di ka matawgan ug bastos. Sensitive ra ba gud ka kaayo.
Hala sge ego na. Wa hinungdan ning lalisa.

pasagad sa imung nawng? hahaha
kinsay may una ning hatag ug mga HAIT nga pulong? diba ikaw? ikaw maoy SENSITIVE.
muingun ra ba dayun ka nga ing-ana ra ka muistorya...ASA NAMAN ANG FRUITS OF THE HOLY SPIRIT NIMU nga Gentleness?(Gal 5:22-23)

sharo wala gihapun ka kasabut sa nature ani nga type of conversations?Do you understand what a forum is?

THIS IS A FORUM...everyone can comment, butt in etc as long as respect for POV is there...ikaw imu nang gipakita ngari?
cge man gani kag panghilabut sa mga lain ug relihiyon...(kana maoy BINASTOS)
THIS IS NOT A PRIVATE CONVERSATION mao way problema ug naay mu butt in.. kasabut naka Brader?

Seriously bai, since you claim your a Christian who knows more basing on your comments as again you TEND to lecture everyone who comes your way when this is just really a discussion or a simple conversation...
the way you handle contradictions, opposite ideas...were you able to carry yourself with the likeness of Jesus?
or even the Saints before us? yeah just as i thought.

ay pagminaldito bai, kay Christian man kaha ka...kasuko pero ayg panginsulto, share pero ay pagsinweto kay di ra ikaw maoy capable of having thoughts and ideas...ug kung mu share ka don't do it in a manner tawn oi nga murag ikaw ra sakto...again, unsa ka GINOO? usapa na!

[slabdans]

OT -hala nangasaba naman gud ka bay noy? hehehe karn pa ko kkita nimo nanagpa dah!

[noy]

OT -hala nangasaba naman gud ka bay noy? hehehe karn pa ko kkita nimo nanagpa dah!

sorry bai slabs.

[<SMILE>]

sorry bai slabs.

Pasagdai na lang na ang mga wolf in sheeps skin,
Bro, dili gyud na sila maluwas.

[MasterK]

sus...nimo life...clone ka ni mandirigma sa?

parehas kaayo mog style

maoha gyud oh
https://www.istorya.net/forums/genera...l#post14201987

OT: morag lahi ra sad na sila @slabs. nawala na man to's @mandirigma, nagbuhat na tingali to ug laing handle diri. pero popareho lang tingali sila kung sapoton nah
tan-awa sila duha diri o ga-abot sad :https://www.istorya.net/forums/arts-a...l#post14123298

[slabdans]

OT: morag lahi ra sad na sila @slabs. nawala na man to's @mandirigma, nagbuhat na tingali to ug laing handle diri. pero popareho lang tingali sila kung sapoton nah
tan-awa sila duha diri o ga-abot sad :https://www.istorya.net/forums/arts-a...l#post14123298

nawala to siya kay na ban baya to pila ka buwan

[MasterK]

nawala to siya kay na ban baya to pila ka buwan

OT: ah mao diay. ganahan man gud sad unta ko ato iyaha mga punto pagprimero pero kadugayan morag nilikoy man noon

[ireneolive]

hala,murag gubot lagi aring dapita.

mao ra jud ni akong matampo, by simply having faith, I know I'll be saved.