brahminy kite for sale....

[Dr. Animu]

simple ra man na, ang imu feeling man gud sweto na kaau ka, and then mao mana ang immature d ba? you have a lot to learn boy, simple question needs a simple answer. Yeah this is a classified and what you are trying to do is making it look one, that is why I am asking you to provide the needs for that person to register, for example this type of animal that is being sold. you have been discussing around but telling nothing, then you will go to unrelated topic. Simple lang since you started this you probably can provide the needs that you said from DENR, so asa kaha ang mas ignorante natu duha, ikaw nga nag feeling intelligent or ang tawo nga nangutana nimu para pud mahibal an ang gi kinahanglan para mo acquire ani.

Tell you frankly, man you need to learn more, siguro na biktima ka, kung gusto ka mo tabang sa uban ihatag, ayaw panghambug nga kabalo ka pero wala d i.

yes this is a classified section,but we can always discuss rather than transfer to the other side, where we can no longer help other buyers on the hole, who might be a victim. Before doing some name calls, better examine yourself first.

Now, what exactly are the needs for any given person wanted to acquire this type of animal and how can they help preserve these species? do you have an answer or your just playing smart.

[heycroc]

you are even more immature than i thought, i just cant find some sense in your request of laying down the requirements when i already have laid it down in a proper thread sa pet discussions. Maybe all you need to do is spend a few of your stagnant energy and do click the link i gave you or is that too complicated for you to understand. i've spent nearly half my life in this industry "BOY" and have had processed this permit for two of the biggest / known animal collections here in Cebu. Besides, is pet discussions too far away for you? You are hopeless Mr. Animu but for your benefit, dara ako ning i copy paste para kakita ka .....AS POSTED SA PET DISCUSSIONS...Among the paperworks that needs to be completed are 1.) animal inventory (complete with sci. names) 2.) Budget Plan (Bank and monetary accounts to prove financial capacity) 3.) Cage and enclosure dimensions and plans 4.) Scientific expertise ( Educational background of personnel and staff) 5.) farm permit form 6.) SEC accreditation and i forgot one more (hehehe) . It really entails a lot of work to get these things but i think it is just proper for it to be a deterrent for fancy keepers from getting accredited. I strongly believe that the keeping of these wild species should only be granted to the truly dedicated people and not to fancy keepers who have a shallow and temporary wanting for these endangered species........ Mr. Animu, kita na ka?

[Dr. Animu]

Mao ta na ang imu gi butang, Rather than telling those BS! on the thread, You need to make sure that information are fairly given, D ba mao na imu mandate? That's the problem of a typical government worker, if you are spending half of your life you must have been dead by now, ha.ha.ha. but thank you for the info, been spending millions for those permit but information from the government is hard earned they will not even help you nor specify what exactly is the need, rather than pointing to different things like what you did, At the start I find it so stupid telling to those people in thread that you are no good but never an info was given. You might have all the knowledge on how to do it, but that knowledge needs to be shared so that these people reading it will be aware of what those things that you are talking about, by giving thread that won't help not all people will have the time to click and read it. I suggest Mr. Croc if you are trying to do some information drive don't do government advertising does lack of info, and will tell you bumisita sa pina ka malapit na... Do they have time to visit but they do have time to read Mr. Croc?
I appreciate what you have typed Mr. Croc, and I will end this thread on a note " The losers in life think they have all the answers. They can’t learn because they’re too busy telling everyone what they know. - Robert kiyosaki

[MarkBet]

So far based on experience, lisod kaayo ang captive breeding sa brahminy kite. Gapangitlog pero unfertile ang eggs. Ang usual gabuhaton sa tao kay mupalit silag registered nga brahminy kite dayon kung naa silay makuha nga fledgeling or young adult, ilang angkonon nga prodigy (offspring). Dili gyud na nimo ma register ang wild caught (illegal source) unta, pero kung naa kay kaila nga naay CWR sa brahminy kite pwede ra nimo sya paangkonon nga iya. Mangayo lang kag photocopy sa iya CWR dayon ipa register sa DENR via captive bred certificate. Tag 500 raman. Voila! Registered breeder na ka sa birds of prey. Kung na register na nimo, naay wing band nga ipabutang sa DENR as marking nga captive bred gyud na sya and dili nimo ma sell tong gi register nimo ang offspring ra. Mao na sya ang process. Just want to voice my opinion. Tagaan nalang nato ug benefit of the doubt ang seller nga registered gyud na iyang fledgelings. Sa mupalit of BOP (birds of prey) dili lalim pag atiman kay kinaon karne. Dili nimo pwede mapasagdan kay dali ra mamatay. Kailangan sad na silag space para maka lupad2 kay kung caged pirme, sakitin imong banog. Daily handfeeding ug handling taman 6 months para ma tame nimo. Mutuhak mudugo. Mubatog sa imong kamot, mudugo. Ipaduol imong ulo tuhakon imong mata, buta. Saba sad kini nga mananap sigeg "kiyeeeeeee" buntag sayo. Pero makalingaw kaayo kung tamed na. Pwede nimo gamiton pang falconry. Ang akong maingon lang kung mupalit mo siguradoa nga registered kay kung magsakit dili ninyo maadtog vet kay ireport mana nila. Salamat!

-Vince
500sqm Aviary with: 12 brahminy kites, 3 serpent eagles, 2 scop owls, 4 grass owls, 3 tikling, 2 herons, and 1 rufus hornedbill all rescued and registered.

Thanks Vince for the info...

[heycroc]

Mao ta na ang imu gi butang, Rather than telling those BS! on the thread, You need to make sure that information are fairly given, D ba mao na imu mandate? That's the problem of a typical government worker, if you are spending half of your life you must have been dead by now, ha.ha.ha. but thank you for the info, been spending millions for those permit but information from the government is hard earned they will not even help you nor specify what exactly is the need, rather than pointing to different things like what you did, At the start I find it so stupid telling to those people in thread that you are no good but never an info was given. You might have all the knowledge on how to do it, but that knowledge needs to be shared so that these people reading it will be aware of what those things that you are talking about, by giving thread that won't help not all people will have the time to click and read it. I suggest Mr. Croc if you are trying to do some information drive don't do government advertising does lack of info, and will tell you bumisita sa pina ka malapit na... Do they have time to visit but they do have time to read Mr. Croc?
I appreciate what you have typed Mr. Croc, and I will end this thread on a note " The losers in life think they have all the answers. They can’t learn because they’re too busy telling everyone what they know. - Robert kiyosaki

Dr. Animu (although the "Dr. " part is unjustified by the sense you are showing) first of all, if a simple click of the mouse hinders you from knowing the requirements, then what a big obstacle would it be then completing the aforementioned requirements, just comes to show that you are either not interested or lazy enough. Hahaha, and you've even shown much denser thinking by assuming that i am a government worker. I am not in a bit a part of the government nor affiliated in one and maybe same as most of us here, i too despise how our government works. I am just a regular person with an experience but i'm trying to make a difference rather than procrastinate or play blind -deaf for the wrongdoings of others. I know for a fact that the DENR cant monitor these transactions and who would you rather wait to make a move? You know what Mr. Animu, it is the mentality of your likes that keeps this nation down, people who blame the government rather than making a move for themselves, people who dampen other people's enthusiasm who have the effort to save a few of what's left of our wildlife. Now as what you are asking in your previous post of how people here can help in preserving these wild animals...the answer is simple ..... let them be. Stop their trade and stop campaigning for private individuals such that they may be accredited by the DENR. Once in our lives, we all go through a fancy for things and among them are wild animals due to their uniqueness that is not found in domestic dogs or cats. Imagine if all of us are given a go at this even just for once in our lives, how many of us will succeed in breeding or at least keeping them alive and as time goes by we lose that fancy. We might have lost our money's worth in the process but in turn we also have taken out a life from the forest and to sum it all from all of us is a great toll for the animals. But then again Dr. Animu, you wouldnt care, you'd care more for other people to satisfy their caprices over the lives of these animals. In the end we will only conserve what we love, we will only love what we understand, we will only understand what was taught to us.... by Baba Dioum. i'd rather keep on telling everyone what i know and stand as a loser rather than win for personal glory and not care.

[danzrule99]

Dr. Animu (although the "Dr. " part is unjustified by the sense you are showing) first of all, if a simple click of the mouse hinders you from knowing the requirements, then what a big obstacle would it be then completing the aforementioned requirements, just comes to show that you are either not interested or lazy enough. Hahaha, and you've even shown much denser thinking by assuming that i am a government worker. I am not in a bit a part of the government nor affiliated in one and maybe same as most of us here, i too despise how our government works. I am just a regular person with an experience but i'm trying to make a difference rather than procrastinate or play blind -deaf for the wrongdoings of others. I know for a fact that the DENR cant monitor these transactions and who would you rather wait to make a move? You know what Mr. Animu, it is the mentality of your likes that keeps this nation down, people who blame the government rather than making a move for themselves, people who dampen other people's enthusiasm who have the effort to save a few of what's left of our wildlife. Now as what you are asking in your previous post of how people here can help in preserving these wild animals...the answer is simple ..... let them be. Stop their trade and stop campaigning for private individuals such that they may be accredited by the DENR. Once in our lives, we all go through a fancy for things and among them are wild animals due to their uniqueness that is not found in domestic dogs or cats. Imagine if all of us are given a go at this even just for once in our lives, how many of us will succeed in breeding or at least keeping them alive and as time goes by we lose that fancy. We might have lost our money's worth in the process but in turn we also have taken out a life from the forest and to sum it all from all of us is a great toll for the animals. But then again Dr. Animu, you wouldnt care, you'd care more for other people to satisfy their caprices over the lives of these animals. In the end we will only conserve what we love, we will only love what we understand, we will only understand what was taught to us.... by Baba Dioum. i'd rather keep on telling everyone what i know and stand as a loser rather than win for personal glory and not care.

Bro, no offense pero you are being a "smart-ass". A simple question requires a simple answer. No need to flaunt your intelligence or savvy disposition with words nor put down other people. You resorting to name calling also says a lot about your personality... I can see that you are simply against the selling of such an animal.. why not simply offer to take it off the seller's hands? I respect you campaigning for the welfare of these animals but at least show some respect. You are basically calling us ignorant simply because of our interest or questions about caring for such animals. If you are a so called expert on the matter, just lay it down for us and a simple reminder that caring and owning for these animals require a great deal.

Don't be a meany.. just saying..

[heycroc]

kana na sequester sa DENR asa mana padulong? pwede ba nimu e post diri ani nga thread ang mga needs para ma register, rather than mag sige nalang ta pamara tapos mura ug hambug ra man ato dating, post nalang ang mga requirements para ma aware pud ang mga naa diri. tapos ato tabangan ug post ang mga requirements, mura man pud ta naa wild area diri halos gi himo na man ni subdivision ni ato mga lugar diri, tapos mura ga sige ra man ni ug approve ang DENR for conversion, tapos mag gara gara ta ug padung sa wild, para sa gagmay adto sa wild pero sa dagku nga businesses para sa kaha?

this incited these replies, if you might read before hand, i never condescended upon any of the posters and i started out with saying "with all due respect" for the TS. Respect begets respect. thanks though for reminding me, i admittedly had been harsh.

[makoy-x]

wow up ta ani b.. nosebleed man sad ta sa mga comment dri heheh... para nko wala sad cguro tao nga mugasto og 5k para lng kabuangan ang pet oi... hehehe mangita jud na og way nga matarung og gam na nilla ang mga pets...

[heycroc]

Many people have good intentions and a lot of them can spend, but by looking at well established zoos and parks, we can assess that even them would still find it difficult to breed and keep for a long time without complications the very wild animals that they are keeping, how much more would it be for private individuals who are yet to start their research and experience of these species. Should one find extra funds and want to help or be part of the conservation efforts, then i suggest donate it to orgs or LGU's who are well into these endeavors. Cebu for one has CBCF (Cebu Biodiversity Conservation Front), Project Seahorse, Local zoos / parks or WWF. I am pretty sure these institutions have a sort of "adopt an animal programme" where you can fund for the needs of a specific animal in their collection. The problem with keeping wild animals in our backyards is that we could hardly use these specimens for propagating purposes and the lack of networking with other holding facilities could bereft the owner of shared knowledge in its basic husbandry. Say for example, the colors and the manner of defecating among birds of prey are tell tale signs of their general health. A mint green stool can mean starvation, avocado green can mean a liver disease, black or dark brown without any whites can mean coagulation of blood (coccidia / protozoa) these are examples of shared knowledge that can hardly be found in the net but are known to established animal / raptor institutions. All i am saying is let us allocate our efforts, funds and support to these thriving institutions rather than spread it too thinly and fall prey to failure at the cost of these animals.

[0727jr]

hahayyyyyy......