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    Partner means someone who is worshipped alongside God. You are still worshipping Jesus and God. If Jesus was God, why wasn't he all-knowing? He admitted than himself. The Qur'an was revealed as a reinforcement since the Bible started going all sorts of places. The Qur'an will never change. Not a single dot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaBelleza View Post
    Partner means someone who is worshipped alongside God. You are still worshipping Jesus and God. If Jesus was God, why wasn't he all-knowing? He admitted than himself. The Qur'an was revealed as a reinforcement since the Bible started going all sorts of places. The Qur'an will never change. Not a single dot.
    No. Jesus is God in person as a man. When we worship God, we call upon the name of the Lord Jesus. As I have told you earlier here God cannot be received without Jesus, the God who became man.

    How can you receive God when you are a sinner? That is shirk. God cannot enter into you as a spirit in worshipping of Allah if He did not become Jesus. He had to become Jesus to be received by His believers.

    "All Knowing" are you referring to His coming? Jesus was actually all knowing but because He was still in His humanity by then, He was prohibited to know what the father has ordained to happen. Philippians 2: 6 Who, existing in the form of God, did not consider being equal with God a treasure to be grasped, 7 But emptied Himself, taking the form of a slave, becoming in the likeness of men;

    "The Qur'an will never change. Not a single dot." doesnt make any difference for us. Because a "dot" doesnt prove anything to be the word from God. In other words, with all due respect, we dont believe the quran to be the word of God, though it was not changed even a single dot?

    reinforcement of the bible? nooooooooooooooooo.....quran has revealed a different Jesus. If you think that the bible we have is tampered then can please show us the correct one? Dont you know that the bible has a guiding principle, if one portion is wrong, then the whole book is wrong.
    Last edited by %75life4Him; 05-07-2013 at 05:11 PM.

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    No, the bible has 3 major codexis dated 3rd,4th and 5th century earlier than quran recovered on the 18th and 19 century. In 1840s, 1950s were dead sea scrolls that supported the consistency and accuracy of those codexis. And there are many codexis that supported the consistency of the bible we have today. Unless if you dont believe on archeology. Therefore, we dont believe that the bible is not a book of God.

    These codexis supports that the bible doesnt need a suppliment at all.
    Last edited by %75life4Him; 05-07-2013 at 05:12 PM.

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    For Christian, Salvation is Not Obtained BUT it is Given because Salvation for Christians is a Gift from God...

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    For Christian, Salvation is Not Obtained BUT it is Given because Salvation for Christians is a Gift from God...
    Yes. I agree with you. You just need to receive it by faith. Amen to that bro.

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    wel...i only pray and believe to the one..that i cannot see... but i do feel...him ^___^

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    Pasalamatang Kahitas-an, Rastafar-I... Kinabuhing gubot, gihapsay!
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    Shiekh Yusuf Estes explains salvation in Islam here Just Ask Islam - Salvation in Islam
    explained very simply....if you can be bothered reading (it's a bit of a read)



    and it was Paul or Saul of Tarsus who created a new and more "palatable" Jesus. The Jesus we believe in is the historical Jesus.
    Last edited by LaBelleza; 05-07-2013 at 09:52 PM.

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    sa akong pag basa ug gamay ato maam murag naa ra gihapon ralation sa faith + good work

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    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    sa akong pag basa ug gamay ato maam murag naa ra gihapon ralation sa faith + good work
    did u say u read a bit...something something faith and good works?

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