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  1. #1411

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    Quote Originally Posted by %75life4Him View Post
    Actually, salvation bro is not about going to heaven or hell, it is about having the divine life of God in Christ. If you dont have Christ, then you dont have salvation. This is for the purpose of fulfilling the eternal purpose of God in His DIVINE ECONOMY (Ephesians 1:9-10). He is not as narrow as sending people to hell because they did not believe in Christ, the son of God. God knew that 2k years before the advent of Christ there were people who have lived in Ifugao building the terraces without knowing the Lord in Israel. But God did not stressed this so much in the bible because He really wants us to believe in Christ as our saviour. Those are not saved but passed the great white judgement will enter eternity. Revelation 20:11
    hmmm...a unique view you got there, esp when you said salvation is not about heaven but having access to eternity

    i somehow find both as Same..that there are 2 Final destinations eternal Life(salvation in Heaven or wherever as long as with the Lord)
    or eternal damnation in Hell or wherever with the Accuser.

  2. #1412

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaBelleza View Post
    I have full trust in God and worship him with all my heart, mind and limbs. I feel better knowing that I deserve God's pleasure by working hard to do good in this life so that I spend eternity in a better place.
    I just want to ask. Dont you think that "deserveness" doesnt have assurance and security? Why would you take your chances when your eternity is at stake?

    I'll be answering you tomorrow if you will have a reply on this.

    Thanks.

    Good nyt everyone. God Bless.

  3. #1413

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    Quote Originally Posted by shockie View Post
    The first is better, sa second gud mo-question manta sa atong kaluwasan everytime we fall into sin....so until we die naa jud permi ang pagduha2.
    But these 2 will work as long as we have Jesus in our lives...hehe siniguro lang nang ikaduha.

    But my real answer to the question is BY FAITH ALONE man can attain salvation.
    it's not really about security and assurance bro

    for we know that FAITH is JUSTIFIED by works(of course good works if we talk about good faith)
    and Faith WITHOUT actuin is a DEAD FAITH.
    well not really faith plus action but rather Faith in Action.

  4. #1414

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    Listen, we don't even deserve what we have right now. The blessings He has given us: Our eyes, hands, legs, family, money, food, etc. They are all given to us by God and they all belong to Him. Any day, in a blink of an eye, they can be taken away from us. So I cannot live this life thinking nothing is gonna happen to me let alone thinking that I'm gonna be handed paradise on a silver platter.

  5. #1415

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Ratzinger View Post
    Yeah! If all other Christian denominations claim that they're the only ones that shall be saved then which one of them is right?
    hahaha, magkatawa man sad ko aning mga denomination nga moangkon nga sila ray maluwas uy. Wala man guy denominasyun o relihiyon nga makaluwas kay walay perpekto nga relihiyon. Anyway, to answer your question bro, walay right ana nila (nila nga niangkon nga sila ray maluwas) hehehe.

  6. #1416

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    Quote Originally Posted by %75life4Him View Post
    Wa juy mu accept slabs.Hehehe. Though I am not for Eddie V but he is the most trusted candidate right now according to survey.

    to accept the Jesus is not just to accept Him as Saviour but a LORD. Which means Master.
    salvation by alone man kaha? no need na ang good works

    kay basta imong ng gidawat save na man ka...naka remember o sa imo sulti sauna nga bisan mag himo pa ka sayop luwas gihapon ka ka kay anak sa Dios, murag imong mama ba. na kung magpabuyag ka luwas lang gihapon ka kay anak gud ka

  7. #1417

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    murag abusado nga anak man na imung pasabut guro Slabs...Lol

  8. #1418

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    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    salvation by alone man kaha? no need na ang good works

    kay basta imong ng gidawat save na man ka...naka remember o sa imo sulti sauna nga bisan mag himo pa ka sayop luwas gihapon ka ka kay anak sa Dios, murag imong mama ba. na kung magpabuyag ka luwas lang gihapon ka kay anak gud ka
    Sa ani na case kay maluwas ang malditong Christiano keysa sa buotan na non-Christian. Pagka paet.

  9. #1419

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    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    murag abusado nga anak man na imung pasabut guro Slabs...Lol
    mao man na iya sulti sauna..layo2x napud no0n to kapy na read back

  10. #1420

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    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    hmmm...a unique view you got there, esp when you said salvation is not about heaven but having access to eternity

    i somehow find both as Same..that there are 2 Final destinations eternal Life(salvation in Heaven or wherever as long as with the Lord)
    or eternal damnation in Hell or wherever with the Accuser
    .

    How could you say that? Well, In a sense, New Jerusalem is heaven. But New Jerusalem will be coming out of heaven to earth in Revelation 21: 2. So heaven ABOVE is not the final destination of the believers but the NJ on earth. Please read these verses below

    Hebrews 12:22
    But you have come forward to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem; and to myriads of angels, to the universal gathering;

    Revelation 21:2
    And I saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.


    By the way the accuser satan is not yet in hell.

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