The Breakeven Story

[kageron]

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mr breaks, ang katong na sa langit nga nangamatay na, mag ka ilhanay rato sila didto?

if mailhan useless d i tong nag hikog tungod kay daghan utang nya mag hikog para ma impas kay inig abot sa langit masakspan gihapon heehehe

[shockie]

if mailhan useless d i tong nag hikog tungod kay daghan utang nya mag hikog para ma impas kay inig abot sa langit masakspan gihapon heehehe

butangi....hehhehe.
bogoy sad ka bro da

[Joseph Ratzinger]

Since the topic is about images then explain the ark of the covenant which God told Moses to make? Which has statues of two Angels. That's stated in the bible. And Solomon's temple which was made by God's orders too also has decorations of images.

[shockie]

Since the topic is about images then explain the ark of the covenant which God told Moses to make? Which has statues of two Angels. That's stated in the bible. And Solomon's temple which was made by God's orders too also has decorations of images.

it was God's order bro, not man. anything that God orders has a purpose.....but wala niya gipabuhat para ludhan,etc. God did not commanded the early christians to make a statue for the saints..

[Joseph Ratzinger]

it was God's order bro, not man. anything what God commands has a purpose.....God did not command the early christians to make a statue for the saints..

Still, God didn't forbid images such as those. It's just the same. And as was discussed in the RCC threads, the Saints are not worshiped. You are also wrong about the early Christians not having images because the Early Christian Catacombs had images. And targeting Saints? Aren't you RCC bashing again, bro? Why do you have to put done another persons religion in order to elevate yours? That's not the Christian thing to do, break. If you are against images you do not have to mention Saints because clearly even if it might not be your intention to offend Catholics though I see it that way, you my friend are offending them.

[shockie]

Still, God didn't forbid images such as those. It's just the same. And as was discussed in the RCC threads, the Saints are not worshiped. You are also wrong about the early Christians not having images because the Early Christian Catacombs had images. And targeting Saints? Aren't you RCC bashing again, bro? Why do you have to put done another persons religion in order to elevate yours? That's not the Christian thing to do, break. If you are against images you do not have to mention Saints because clearly even if it might not be your intention to offend Catholics though I see it that way, you my friend are offending them.

bro ai lagi sigeg ingon bashing na, its part of our discussion...of course ma mention jud. naa mansad saktong huna2 ang taw, bisan pag unsa atong comment if he is firm with his belief nga insakto para niya, dili mana problema.

yes wala gi-forbid bisan gani magpabuhat tag atong statue, ang point diha is "not to bow down" or show any acts of worship. samot na jud kung ampoan sa mga taw kay mangayog tabang.

Images in their catacombs wala na nila ludhi bro.

[Joseph Ratzinger]

bro ai lagi sigeg ingon bashing na, its part of our discussion...of course ma mention jud. naa mansad saktong huna2 ang taw, bisan pag unsa ang comment if he is firm with his belief nga insakto para niya, dili mana problema.

yes wala gi-forbid bisan gani magpabuhat tag atong statue, ang point diha is "not to bow down" or show any acts of worship. samot na jud kung ampoan sa mga taw kay mangayog tabang.

Images in their catacombs wala na nila ludhi bro.

Sure ka wa gi ludhan? Did you know how the old Christians worshiped? Also, the Catholics are not worshiping Saints so do not insist that they are. If there's a Catholic who does that then it's not Vatican sanctioned.

And as for the bashing. You're obviously mentioning it with malice and to instigate a war among Cathloics and Protestants, bro.

You said you are just spreading the word? That's the wrong way. You do not put down another person's religion to spread the word. Why not just talk about the good things that God has given you in your life or the inspiration.. etc without saying anything offensive to another religion.

I don't go around bashing the Muslims or Protestants and saying Heathens repent for we are the one true church because that's not a good thing. You can always spread the word without being offensive. Just a word of advice.

And of course, I stand by my belief and you stand by yours. I respect that. I am not here to convince you nor can you persuade me to join your side. But of course, I am here to defend the RCC.

Anyway, I hope you take that advice. It's for your own good.

[shockie]

Sure ka wa gi ludhan? Did you know how the old Christians worshiped? Also, the Catholics are not worshiping Saints so do not insist that they are. If there's a Catholic who does that then it's not Vatican sanctioned.

And as for the bashing. You're obviously mentioning it with malice and to instigate a war among Cathloics and Protestants, bro.

You said you are just spreading the word? That's the wrong way. You do not put down another person's religion to spread the word. Why not just talk about the good things that God has given you in your life or the inspiration.. etc without saying anything offensive to another religion.

I don't go around bashing the Muslims or Protestants and saying Heathens repent for we are the one true church because that's not a good thing. You can always spread the word without being offensive. Just a word of advice.

And of course, I stand by my belief and you stand by yours. I respect that. I am not here to convince you nor can you persuade me to join your side. But of course, I am here to defend the RCC.

Anyway, I hope you take that advice. It's for your own good.

do not misinterpret me bro. i'm just sharing what i believed as true in the bible. naa rana sa mga hearers how they interpret the verses i shared...basta mao na akong pagsabot sad ana.

Whether you worship idols or not, wala koy labot ana kay lahi2 man tag conviction if its right for you, continue.....if sayop tinuod sa atong paminaw, what's wrong if we comply God's plain command? wala man tingali masuko kung mao na atong buhaton...

peace bro!

[Joseph Ratzinger]

Binut-an lag storya ba para walay problema. Evangelize in a none offensive way. Simple as that.

And peace sad sa imo bro. hehehe..

[slabdans]

Exodos 20:4 4 “You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below.

kani nga balaaod man gud nahitabo sa panahon ni moses, wala pa kakita gyud ang mga tawo ug unsay hulagway sa Ginoo ma nagpataka na lgn silag buhat ug hulagway, mapa kanding baka langgam adlaw ug unsa pa diha, mao nipakanaog ang Ginoo ana nga maong balaudnon.

pero tungod sa gugma sa Dios sa katawhan, iyang gipadala si Jesus Jhon 3:16 karon duna na silay idea ug unsa gyud ang dagway sa Ginoo.

Jhon 12:44-46

44 Then Jesus cried out, “Whoever believes in me does not believe in me only, but in the one who sent me. 45 The one who looks at me is seeing the one who sent me. 46 I have come into the world as a light, so that no one who believes in me should stay in darkness.