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    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak View Post
    naka suway naba ka nagpa ampo sa imong friends para maka pasar ko ug board exams or the likes?

    basin wala ka kahibaw ang mga apostles naka paayo ug masakiton bisag ni hikap ra sa ilang sinina in the name of jesus christ..
    aw basta "in the name of Jesus" okay ra kaayo..dili na idolatry. Sa ako man gud nakit-an (sa akong mga silingan ra ni ha ug mga ka-ila) sa santos naman gud sila magpasalamat kung ma ayo, or maka pasar, or unsa.

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    @shockie: naa kay graded exam ngadtos born again thread,,, haha

    page 66, post#656.

    Goodluck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    pwede pud bro..hehehe...kinsay Catholic nga imung nailhan break nga ning ingun nimu nga ang mga santos kay Ginoo?
    kay atong seminaron..Lol
    i knew lot of them...... but its their preferences, i think hndi nmn cla napapasama so maybe i let them jaz be.. sna lang yung main reason na nagppray cla ay hndi mwala.. mostly they jaz remember to pray when they ask for something.. only few were to pray for thankfulness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdane View Post
    aw basta "in the name of Jesus" okay ra kaayo..dili na idolatry. Sa ako man gud nakit-an (sa akong mga silingan ra ni ha ug mga ka-ila) sa santos naman gud sila magpasalamat kung ma ayo, or maka pasar, or unsa.
    true and correct. most them..

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdane View Post
    oh, okay. as long as they don't worship the statues, I guess. And as long as we don't forget to pray directly to Jesus (w/c is different from asking the prayer warriors to do so).. Anyway, all of us still has to be respected despite our individual beliefs and practices. Na sting lang ko gamay sa "born against". But it's okay na. No further questions, your honor! hehehe.
    yep i see your point sis
    ug..pasensyahe lang tong joke nga born against sis..hehehe...
    prehas ra pud gud nas joke nga Katololiko. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by shockie View Post
    agree manta ana bro taht we ought to pray one for another. pwede ta mohangyo patabang ampo sa ilaha, but never to bow down or kiss, any such act coz we are all equal in the sight of God. sa bagay its not a big deal for those nga wala kasabot sa 2nd commandment.
    this is wat i am saying about in the first place.. yeah' never ever down on any things man made to project heaven. kya nga nasuko c moises diba? ky ang mga tawo naghimo ug baka pra himoun nila ug god. same as sa rebolto. they are made by man. hindi dapat cla niluluhuran. only God deserve to be bowed by us.

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    Exodus 20:1-8
    "And God spoke all these words, saying, “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery. “You shall have no other gods before me. “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. You shall not bow down to them or serve them, for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me, ... "

    Isaiah 44:9-20
    "All who fashion idols are nothing, and the things they delight in do not profit. Their witnesses neither see nor know, that they may be put to shame. Who fashions a god or casts an idol that is profitable for nothing? Behold, all his companions shall be put to shame, and the craftsmen are only human. Let them all assemble, let them stand forth. They shall be terrified; they shall be put to shame together. The ironsmith takes a cutting tool and works it over the coals. He fashions it with hammers and works it with his strong arm. He becomes hungry, and his strength fails; he drinks no water and is faint. The carpenter stretches a line; he marks it out with a pencil. He shapes it with planes and marks it with a compass. He shapes it into the figure of a man, with the beauty of a man, to dwell in a house. ... "

    Question: Why do people wipe their handkerchiefs on a saint's statue, even mama mary's statue.... When God particularly ordered these to his people? Why have not the priests said anything about this? Are we even aware that we're committing a sin against our Heavenly Father?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shockie View Post
    agree manta ana bro taht we ought to pray one for another. pwede ta mohangyo patabang ampo sa ilaha, but never to bow down or kiss, any such act coz we are all equal in the sight of God. sa bagay its not a big deal for those nga wala kasabot sa 2nd commandment.
    parang di ko yata gusto ang tabas ng dili mu pare ha( ala Lito Lapid) Lol

    stricto ra pud kaayo ka sa personal break oi..Lol
    bowing and kissing are a sign of respect and reverence.
    kung muapil kog martial arts kay mu bow ko before magsparr, ako giworship akong kontra?
    sa Japan,Korea ug uban pa...when they bow to people they meet..giworship na?

    regarding the second commandment? unsa may naa ato?
    diba mu fall ra to under sa
    "I, the Lord, am your God. You shall not have other gods besides me. "? which is what Catholics consider as the First commandment...

    regarding anang praying for request instead of thanking God...kana nuon naay daghan sis...
    at some point of our lives, we're all guilty of this..
    Last edited by noy; 04-25-2013 at 05:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kagami-chan View Post
    exodus 20:1-8
    "and god spoke all these words, saying, “i am the lord your god, who brought you out of the land of egypt, out of the house of slavery. “you shall have no other gods before me. “you shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. You shall not bow down to them or serve them, for i the lord your god am a jealous god, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me, ... "

    isaiah 44:9-20
    "all who fashion idols are nothing, and the things they delight in do not profit. Their witnesses neither see nor know, that they may be put to shame. Who fashions a god or casts an idol that is profitable for nothing? Behold, all his companions shall be put to shame, and the craftsmen are only human. Let them all assemble, let them stand forth. They shall be terrified; they shall be put to shame together. The ironsmith takes a cutting tool and works it over the coals. He fashions it with hammers and works it with his strong arm. He becomes hungry, and his strength fails; he drinks no water and is faint. The carpenter stretches a line; he marks it out with a pencil. He shapes it with planes and marks it with a compass. He shapes it into the figure of a man, with the beauty of a man, to dwell in a house. ... "

    question: Why do people wipe their handkerchiefs on a saint's statue, even mama mary's statue.... When god particularly ordered these to his people? Why have not the priests said anything about this? Are we even aware that we're committing a sin against our heavenly father?
    this is wat i've read before........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kagami-chan View Post
    Exodus 20:1-8
    "And God spoke all these words, saying, “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery. “You shall have no other gods before me. “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. You shall not bow down to them or serve them, for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me, ... "

    Isaiah 44:9-20
    "All who fashion idols are nothing, and the things they delight in do not profit. Their witnesses neither see nor know, that they may be put to shame. Who fashions a god or casts an idol that is profitable for nothing? Behold, all his companions shall be put to shame, and the craftsmen are only human. Let them all assemble, let them stand forth. They shall be terrified; they shall be put to shame together. The ironsmith takes a cutting tool and works it over the coals. He fashions it with hammers and works it with his strong arm. He becomes hungry, and his strength fails; he drinks no water and is faint. The carpenter stretches a line; he marks it out with a pencil. He shapes it with planes and marks it with a compass. He shapes it into the figure of a man, with the beauty of a man, to dwell in a house. ... "

    Question: Why do people wipe their handkerchiefs on a saint's statue, even mama mary's statue.... When God particularly ordered these to his people? Why have not the priests said anything about this? Are we even aware that we're committing a sin against our Heavenly Father?
    why do you wipe your trasured stuffs? does it mean you worship them too? value and worship are not the same
    veneration and worship are not the same as well.

    i wipe and sometimes kiss my electric guitar(ing ana nako ka pinangga) so i worship my guitar? hhehehehe...

    that is a common misconception sis, for details about it, you may wanna back read a bit, a detailed explanation and helpful links
    were posted and this topic has been tackled already..
    and while doing so, daghan pud kag makit.an nga Q and A that you might be interested in.

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