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  1. #5791

    Why should i believen in an omnipotent all-knowing God who creates imperfect people, blame them and cast them in eternal fire if they so make a mistake, which mistakes are caused by their imperfections which he created in the first place?

  2. #5792
    Quote Originally Posted by Xian120 View Post
    Why should i believen in an omnipotent all-knowing God who creates imperfect people, blame them and cast them in eternal fire if they so make a mistake, which mistakes are caused by their imperfections which he created in the first place?
    God created perfect people. For beauty is on the inside that counts.
    God never blamed us. If that is the case , then His existence would not be questioned anymore by an ATHEIST.
    God never cast his creations to HELL . Its our freewill and choice to be in HELL . He even sent His Son to die for us.
    " A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. " - 2nd Amendment , Bill of Rights of the United States of America

  3. #5793
    Quote Originally Posted by Xian120 View Post
    Why should i believen in an omnipotent all-knowing God who creates imperfect people, blame them and cast them in eternal fire if they so make a mistake, which mistakes are caused by their imperfections which he created in the first place?
    our imperfections(sins,mistakes) signifies our eternal difference with God who is perfect.
    but despite of our imperfections He did not only provided a way out but He gave us the ability to choose freely which no earthly creator(mankind) has ever given to his/her earthly inventions.
    this ability can either be a curse or a gift, the choice is ours.
    if its a curse, would one rather be an electric fan who cannot express itself if its tired?

    if God is so condemning as you perceived, the very instant you stopped believing in Him, He would have stopped believing in you..

    if heaven,hell and final judgement are for real, how sure are you that God would condemn you to Hell for not believing in Him
    while you were alive?
    unless you'd freely choose to go to...but it doesn't mean that you'd go to heaven directly either hehehe
    for God is a God of justice and perfection..so there must be a point of cleansing somewhere..
    that's where the teaching of purgatory and indulgence comes in..

    However, for sure you have your reasons for not believing in God and i'm sure they are valid in your own terms
    but However your unbelief results, you chose it for yourself.

    this is just in reply to your question bai ha, let's not discuss atheism on this thread.

  4. #5794
    Question na pud:

    Was Reincarnation part of the early teachings of the Christian Church and later abolished?

    In the third chapter of the book, Many Lives, Many Masters by Dr. Brian Weiss, he claims that reincarnation was in the Bible but was later removed. I quote from the book:
    "There were indeed references to reincarnation in the Old and New Testaments. In A.D. 325 the Roman emperor Constantine the Great, along with his mother, Helena, had deleted references to reincarnation contained in the New Testament. The Second Council of Constantinople meeting in A.D. 553, confirmed this action and declared the concept of reincarnation a heresy." (p. 35-36)
    Last edited by Passport; 04-19-2013 at 09:06 PM.

  5. #5795
    ^^heresy indeed..

  6. #5796
    Quote Originally Posted by Xian120 View Post
    Why should i believen in an omnipotent all-knowing God who creates imperfect people, blame them and cast them in eternal fire if they so make a mistake, which mistakes are caused by their imperfections which he created in the first place?
    With this analogy of yours, no wonder you became an atheist.

  7. #5797
    Quote Originally Posted by Passport View Post
    Question na pud:

    Was Reincarnation part of the early teachings of the Christian Church and later abolished?

    In the third chapter of the book, Many Lives, Many Masters by Dr. Brian Weiss, he claims that reincarnation was in the Bible but was later removed. I quote from the book:
    "There were indeed references to reincarnation in the Old and New Testaments. In A.D. 325 the Roman emperor Constantine the Great, along with his mother, Helena, had deleted references to reincarnation contained in the New Testament. The Second Council of Constantinople meeting in A.D. 553, confirmed this action and declared the concept of reincarnation a heresy." (p. 35-36)
    murag claim ra na sa author bro..hehehe...
    the church or apostolic fathers would often write about salvation in their letters, wla juy nahisgut ngadto about reincarnation..
    and besides, the concept of reincarnation is a direct contradiction of Jesus' Sacrifice for our Salvation if we oursleves can redeem our souls from
    eternal damnation.

  8. #5798
    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    murag claim ra na sa author bro..hehehe...
    the church or apostolic fathers would often write about salvation in their letters, wla juy nahisgut ngadto about reincarnation..
    and besides, the concept of reincarnation is a direct contradiction of Jesus' Sacrifice for our Salvation if we oursleves can redeem our souls from
    eternal damnation.
    Maayong gabii diha Noy..

    then naa toy passage nga nangutana si Jesus sa iyang mga apostoles.. "who do you think I am"

    ngano man to ila tubag nga lainlain man.. naa man gani niingon nga.. siya si Elias...?

  9. #5799
    Quote Originally Posted by Passport View Post
    Maayong gabii diha Noy..

    then naa toy passage nga nangutana si Jesus sa iyang mga apostoles.. "who do you think I am"

    ngano man to ila tubag nga lainlain man.. naa man gani niingon nga.. siya si Elias...?
    mayng Gabie pud bai

    possible tungod kay ang mga apostles wala pa kaayoy idea unsay paagi sa pag abut sa Messias
    hun-huna nila susama ni David ka isog nga Hari, prehas ni Elias nga propeta...
    possible pud ang anointing ilang pasabut...

    pero ayg kalimut nga si Pedro ray gi ingnan ug Amen ni Hesus
    sa iyang tubag nga "Ikaw ang Kristo! and anak sa buhing Diyos"

  10. #5800
    padayon pa ko ug basa Noy....

    kabantay ka atong istorya sa blind man.. nga nangutana sila.. kang kinsa man ni nga sala nga sya gipakatawo nga buta?

    sa akong mubo nga pagsabot.. they were hinting on past lives.. hence, reincarnation.

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